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Joementum posted:"The fact that these soldiers were set up to die in a no return operation is obvious they had knowledge that Obama didn't want leaked. This is the Seals that killed Osama Bin Laden. I don't believe this story. He is alive call me crazy but, Osama Bin Laden is our President Obama do your research. The CIA has been preparing for this since he was a boy. They have same height, bone structure, hands and ears both are left handed the Osama face was created by Hollywood. The fox is in the hen house." ~ Zeeda Andrews "Truckers for the Constitution"? How is this not a joke?
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Crasscrab posted:"Truckers for the Constitution"? How is this not a joke? It is a joke. Or at least, it's impossible not to laugh at it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy9jplgj8w8  And the cherry on top... 
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This is a good idea until you run into people who notice the ideological inconsistency within themselves and decide, at that moment, that they are against the existence of Medicare too. Logic is already gone long before this so it isn't much of a leap for your more hardened, Rush listening southern conservatives.
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:This is a good idea until you run into people who notice the ideological inconsistency within themselves and decide, at that moment, that they are against the existence of Medicare too. Logic is already gone long before this so it isn't much of a leap for your more hardened, Rush listening southern conservatives. Yeah, that's why the "how many dead old people do you want to drive past every morning" step is so important. Forces them to confront their own heartlessness and either change their minds or admit to themselves they're bad people.
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Oct 15, 2013 03:10
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Yeah, that's why the "how many dead old people do you want to drive past every morning" step is so important. Forces them to confront their own heartlessness and either change their minds or admit to themselves they're bad people. In my experience, they just choose block out what you are saying and go on with their blissful ignorance.
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Oct 15, 2013 03:15
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Joementum posted:And the cherry on top... This is a work of art.
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Oct 15, 2013 03:41
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Joementum posted:It is a joke. Or at least, it's impossible not to laugh at it. I have to go watch the Riding with Death MST3K now...
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Oct 15, 2013 03:51
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Ray and Shirley posted:What's more depressing is that Mike Judge is becoming an infrequent but supportive guest on the Alex Jones radio show. My guess is it's because ~Texas~ but I had a much higher opinion of Judge than that. Shame on me. Mike Judge strikes me as kind of a shithead in regard to politics, despite all of the brilliant stuff he's done over the years. People always cite Idiocracy as some amazing movie but to me it came off as really classist and somewhat creepy. Which is strange because Office Space seems almost Marxist in its depiction of worker vs. management relations. Also, the bad King of the Hill episodes put Hank in the role of Common Sense Hero Dad, where his antiquated, black-and-white world views are rewarded. I think Greg Daniels did a lot to round out that character and make Hank's struggle about compromising with a changing world more than him knocking over sissy liberal strawmen.
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Oct 15, 2013 03:52
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bobservo posted:People always cite Idiocracy as some amazing movie but to me it came off as really classist and somewhat creepy. Which is strange because Office Space seems almost Marxist in its depiction of worker vs. management relations.
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Oct 15, 2013 04:50
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Zwabu posted:Most of the people utilizing Medicare paid into that too. If we are "running out of money" ask why their Tricare benefits are on some kind of higher moral rung than Medicare benefits when both sets of beneficiaries paid into the respective systems? Why shouldn't the Medicare people sit fat and happy and the former military guy suck hind tit? "We put our lives on the line for five to ten years or more protecting your freedom and being insanely overworked. You're drat right our healthcare is on a higher moral rung than yours."
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bobservo posted:Mike Judge strikes me as kind of a shithead in regard to politics, despite all of the brilliant stuff he's done over the years. People always cite Idiocracy as some amazing movie but to me it came off as really classist and somewhat creepy. Which is strange because Office Space seems almost Marxist in its depiction of worker vs. management relations. You have to reach pretty hard to call Idiocracy classist. It's a satire that takes anti-intellectualism and anti-science ideals to the extreme to show how flawed they are. It does happen that most people who are anti-intellectualism tend to be poor white Southerners, but that's reality. And I don't think anyone on King of the Hill is supposed to be objectively a "hero" in any traditional sense. It occasionally takes on politics, but I think Judge gives his characters stances that fit the beliefs of the characters and doesn't use them as personal mouthpieces the way Trey Parker and Matt Stone or Seth MacFarlane do with their shows. Judge has always felt more interested in telling slice of life stories with characters that represent demographics that aren't typically represented in entertainment. I don't know his politics but I don't think there's anything consistent in his body of work that would seem like you could reach any meaningful conclusions about his personal beliefs other than he's a fan of the working class, which doesn't really mean anything as far as political leanings.
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comes along bort posted:On the other hand I like plenty of Mike Judge's stuff, but yeah that's pretty ecccchhhh. Portlandia's take was funnier and less stereotypy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d545PS_AkOw
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Chernobyl Prize posted:Did anyone catch Levin's new name for the Redskins? He was teasing it for hour 3 but I couldn't listen to the whole show. It was just "Redskins", drop any mention of Washington. He thought it was pretty funny. Levin was in rare form today. It was a mix of total outrage and then lucid moments of realization that the whole Cruz' crusade was really over. So he reverted back to his old line that nobody in Washington would ever restore the glorious Constitution and that in order to save it, everyone just needed to buy his book and add 11 amendments to the document given to the U.S. through divine inspiration; just the original bill of rights not that commie, socialist post civil war poo poo.
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whatis posted:The talk on the previous pages of right-wing dads ruining holidays has me nervous about this upcoming Thanksgiving. I'm headed down south to spend the holiday with my girlfriend's folks, and her father is a psychopath when it comes to this stuff. I talk to him on the phone every once in a while and he always twists it into something about Obama being a communist/muslim/friend of the family. Now that I've recently started working at a university, I get frequent warnings about all my socialist co-workers and how they're trying to brainwash me. I've been very good about just sort of smiling and nodding through the bullshit the last few years, but the guy is really aggressive and persistent. I want nothing more than to tell him how wrong and crazy he is, but the man is on all sorts of painkillers and meds and has literally threatened complete strangers with the gun he keeps in his glovebox on more than one occasion. In my opinion the best thing to do is just hold your tongue. The man's life is loving poo poo heap and he's looking to blame some outside source for his problems. On a personal level, it's understandable and he probably deserves some empathy. I think Chomsky wrote something good about this where the gist was basically that you have millions of American men who have done exactly what our society asks of them, accordingly expect a Good Life, and reality spits back in their face. When confronted with depressing stagnating wages (let alone personal disability) it's kind of understandable why Limbaugh and his sewer rat ilk speak to these people
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mr. mephistopheles posted:And on the third hand I'm as liberal as they come and reusable bags are just a way for upper middle class white suburbanites to pat themselves on the back for doing gently caress all and they deserve to be mocked. On the other hand what am I supposed to do with all these loving bags.
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pacerhimself posted:On the other hand what am I supposed to do with all these loving bags. Continue stuffing them in a drawer in your kitchen until there is nothing in that drawer but an almost solid block of plastic of steadily increasing density. It's the right thing to do.
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Monkey Fracas posted:Continue stuffing them in a drawer in your kitchen until there is nothing in that drawer but an almost solid block of plastic of steadily increasing density. They're great for lining small waste baskets, too.
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pacerhimself posted:On the other hand what am I supposed to do with all these loving bags.
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pacerhimself posted:On the other hand what am I supposed to do with all these loving bags. Most stores have a bin where you can drop off plastic bags to be recycled. Or at least, Publixes do.
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bobservo posted:Mike Judge strikes me as kind of a shithead in regard to politics, despite all of the brilliant stuff he's done over the years. People always cite Idiocracy as some amazing movie but to me it came off as really classist and somewhat creepy. Which is strange because Office Space seems almost Marxist in its depiction of worker vs. management relations. Judge isn't a very profound guy, he's just a bit of a cipher. He's not thinking very hard about the politics or social implications of anything, he's just looking at what's around him and channeling that into his take on it. As he's become wealthier and more successful, the pretty natural conclusion is that he hasn't thought about that much, either, and is just sort of whinging like he always has, but from the position of a wealthy dude with wealthy dude problems. They're not nearly as funny or easy to identify with. The Alex Jones poo poo has to be down to that stupid Austinite syncretic pseudoreligion that seems to trap people in weird political vortices that wouldn't normally happen outside of Austin. The Whole Foods founder is another good example. Seems kind of granola-ish on the surface, turns out to be a pretty obnoxious libertarian when you dig a bit deeper, but not the Washington DC kind, a special Austin kind.
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The special Austin kind where you export all of the minorities to the other side of town?
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Am I the only one who's a little tired of every side trying to claim Thomas Jefferson for their own punditry? It's like he's America's personal Jesus and whoever can successfully prove he'd be on their side if he were here today automatically wins. Even Washington and Franklin don't seem to have his level of deference. Don't get me wrong, Jefferson was great and all, but it bothers me that he's the alpha and omega of politics anymore.
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Sanguinia posted:Am I the only one who's a little tired of every side trying to claim Thomas Jefferson for their own punditry? It's like he's America's personal Jesus and whoever can successfully prove he'd be on their side if he were here today automatically wins. Even Washington and Franklin don't seem to have his level of deference. Conservatives banned Jefferson from school books for being too liberal.
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miscellaneous14 posted:If it's not already the belief of a few nutjobs, I should spread a conspiracy along the lines of "Obama orchestrated 9/11 in order to defame Republicans and win his elections", just to see how many people would honestly believe it. I typed "obama caused" into google and the top 4 suggestions were: 1. hurricane sandy 2. 9/11 3. katrina 4. the recession So you're actually late to the party and it's 4x as bad as you thought. I just stumbled on this crazy quote about the trucker clusterfuck from US talk radio host Pete Santilli, “If you look at the list of demands, regardless of where you are in the political spectrum, you would not disagree with: stop supporting al Qaeda (in Syria), don’t raise the debt ceiling – and threaten us - that if we don’t print another trillion dollars that they’ll collapse our system – that’s a forceful means to steal money from us. President Obama needs to be held accountable for crimes committed against the United States and Congress needs to hear those crimes." I'd love to see the truckers barge into the White House and make a citizens arrest on President Obama then get obliterated, that'd be a great movie. Kind of like that one Simpson's episode where Homer goes to Washington D.C. and throws the flag into Dick Cheny's heart.
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Republicans posted:They're great for lining small waste baskets, too. Yeah, for real. It saves from having to buy trash bags. Phone posted:The special Austin kind where you export all of the minorities to the other side of town? Don't worry, now the upper middle class whites on the west side of 35 want to live where the non-whites on the other side of 35 live. I'm sure everything will turn out well for all involved. Sir Tonk fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Oct 15, 2013 |
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Pete Santilli posted:don’t raise the debt ceiling – and threaten us - that if we don’t print another trillion dollars that they’ll collapse our system – that’s a forceful means to steal money from us And another moron provides conclusive evidence that he either doesn't understand what the debt ceiling actually is, or doesn't care to actually get his facts straight because it's more important to rile up the base. Want to argue about spending money, argue about the budget. These baboons seem to not understand that complaining about the debt ceiling is more like complaining about a past due credit card bill.
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pacerhimself posted:On the other hand what am I supposed to do with all these loving bags. Bags, Bags, Bags! It always seems like you have too many bags! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gdAJefPME4
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ReindeerF posted:Judge isn't a very profound guy, he's just a bit of a cipher. He's not thinking very hard about the politics or social implications of anything, he's just looking at what's around him and channeling that into his take on it. As he's become wealthier and more successful, the pretty natural conclusion is that he hasn't thought about that much, either, and is just sort of whinging like he always has, but from the position of a wealthy dude with wealthy dude problems. They're not nearly as funny or easy to identify with. That actually makes a lot of sense, since, like you said, Mike Judge's creative projects have always been about his personal experiences rather than some greater message. King of the Hill is a thousand times more interesting than South Park, but with the latter you can chart the show's slide into "what's annoying our bored multi-millionaires this week" territory. Did anyone watch Judge's The Goode Family? It seemed a little mean-spirited to me.
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bobservo posted:Did anyone watch Judge's The Goode Family? It seemed a little mean-spirited to me. I did, and it definitely felt more like a mean-spirited bizzaro world King of the Hill at times. Often the daughter character would play the "voice of reason" (same goes with the grandpa) and honestly I think of Greg Daniels had been involved, it would have been a lot better.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Yeah, that's why the "how many dead old people do you want to drive past every morning" step is so important. Forces them to confront their own heartlessness and either change their minds or admit to themselves they're bad people. The way this always plays out is that they get super steamed at the implication that they're a bad person and spend the rest of eternity accusing you of personal attacks, never once addressing why their position isn't harmful or shouldn't reflect badly on their character.
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Phone posted:The special Austin kind where you export all of the minorities to the other side of town? I miss Austin before the tech boom when it wasn't twee, it was just loving weird, heh. ReindeerF fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Oct 15, 2013 |
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ReindeerF posted:No. There's no need to export them in Austin - they've always lived East of 35. That's why all the wealthy white conservatives live in Westlake and Barton Springs and all the wealthy white liberals live in Hyde Park and Tarrytown and so on. It's what makes for that syncretic breed. The place has basically achieved Northern California levels of gentrified hilarity, which isn't surprising considering that Northern California has colonized it. Still, everyone from the rest of the country just loves Austin - it's so open-minded! Not like Houston, where we are actually integrated and have higher social mobility across the board. Look, they have a farmer's market and a kebab stand run by a homeless musician - how twee! In other words: Portland Syndrome. Especially in terms of race.
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ReindeerF posted:Not like Houston, where we are actually integrated and have higher social mobility across the board. Look, they have a farmer's market and a kebab stand run by a homeless musician - how twee! As a native and lifelong Houstonian, I'm kind of ok with this city flying under the radar forever.
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Joementum posted:It is a joke. Or at least, it's impossible not to laugh at it. Were coming. Wow, impressive stuff.
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Parachute posted:As a native and lifelong Houstonian, I'm kind of ok with this city flying under the radar forever. Robbie Fulks had the best quote ever about Houston, but it was on his old web site and it's been expunged from the internet, sadly.
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I really like Austin because when I worked there it was really easy for me to get from my hotel to my office to my sisters place across town. Also every time I went into Spec's to get a six pack there were people there just giving me shots of various stuff.
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Cardboard Box A posted:Use them for trash And yeah, like OAquinas suggested, there's usually places that have big bag recycle bins. I'll bike over to Publix every couple months with huge spheres of plastic bags and dump 'em in there (maybe this is only a Publix thing cause they own though?). You could do some pretty interesting writeups of King of the Hill in regards to politics. It's a shame it stopped right after Obama got elected (or maybe not). Course Hank would be considered a pinko commie by a lot of rightwing people these days...
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