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Mr. Despair posted:Its like saying "that camera is so kawaii" or something, and this sure doesn't look like the Pentax thread. Next time l will call Katana "Japanese long sword" for you. I am sorry A7's superior image quality has gotten to your temper. 
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whatever7 posted:Next time l will call Katana "Japanese long sword" for you. I am sorry A7's superior image quality has gotten to your temper. Good 
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Oct 17, 2013 17:03
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Dear god this loving thread.
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Just placed my preorder this morning, first in line for the A7. Everybody seems to be ordering the A7R. They already had 12 preorders for it thirty minutes after the store opened up. There will definitely be shortages for this camera over the holidays I think. edit: I am sooo loving excited 
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keyframe posted:Just placed my preorder this morning, first in line for the A7. Everybody seems to be ordering the A7R. I'd definitely rather have the A7. PDAF and larger pixels? Count me in. I can't see a reason to own the A7R except as a studio photographer.
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Costello Jello posted:I'd definitely rather have the A7. PDAF and larger pixels? Count me in. I can't see a reason to own the A7R except as a studio photographer. Those A7R preorders are probably all Leica shooters.
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whatever7 posted:Those A7R preorders are probably all Leica shooters. Yeah, it's also got the gapless microlenses (A7 has microlenses but they're not gapless), which people are thinking will help with wide angle performance.
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Costello Jello posted:I'd definitely rather have the A7. PDAF and larger pixels? Count me in. I can't see a reason to own the A7R except as a studio photographer. Yup same here. I much prefer the A7. Also the AF is faster on it and continuous shooting speed is faster as well compared to A7R.
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Is their anything exciting coming down the pipeline for the X series? I've been out of the loop for awhile. Right now I have the X-E1, the 35mm, and the 18mm.
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Elderbean posted:Is their anything exciting coming down the pipeline for the X series? I've been out of the loop for awhile. You will find out tomorrow at the Fuji announcement.
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Are we still allowed to talk about Micro 4/3 in here? The new "Leica" 15mm from Panasonic could be something cool. It has a manual aperture ring, which I don't think I've seen on any m43 native lens so far. http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/10/17/panasonic-adds-leica-15mm-f1-7-lens-to-micro-four-thirds-stable
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RustedChrome posted:Are we still allowed to talk about Micro 4/3 in here? The new "Leica" 15mm from Panasonic could be something cool. It has a manual aperture ring, which I don't think I've seen on any m43 native lens so far. I just posted that on the previous page but yeah, looks like Panasonic's answer to the Oly 17/1.8 though this is much closer to their own 14/2.5 lens. Their upcoming 'Nocticron' lens will also feature a manual aperture ring.
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RustedChrome posted:Are we still allowed to talk about Micro 4/3 in here? No. Full frame or   Joke aside we need a new OP/thread already because the OP is pretty outdated don't you guys think?
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keyframe posted:No. Full frame or Sounds like someone just volunteered.
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He who smelt it dealt it. Also, my Ricoh GR will be offended if you fail to mention it.
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No problem I will put a new one together this weekend after tomorrows Fuji announcement. edit: Apparently the Fuji event is in two hours. keyframe fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Oct 18, 2013 |
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X100 peeps, the new firmware is LIVE - Fuji loves you and gives you even faster AF and focus peaking, among other perks and improvements, you lucky bitches. http://www.fujifilm.com/support/digital_cameras/software/firmware/x/finepix_x100/index.html
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I am intrigued by the Panasonic GM-1. The idea of a camera that small with the 20mm f/1.7 intrigues me. It would be the 21st century equivalent of the Olympus 35RC. The price is crazy though.
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Here are a couple of hi res sample pictures from the A7. the detail   Lens: Sonnar T* FE 55 mm F1.8 ZA (SEL55F18Z) Mode: M mode Shutter speed: 1/250 sec. Aperture: F2.2 ISO: 400  Lens: Sonnar T* FE 35 mm F2.8 ZA (SEL35F28Z) Mode: P mode Shutter speed: 1/100 sec. Aperture: F5 EV Comp.: +0.7 EV ISO: 400  Lens: FE 28-70 mm F3.5-5.6 OSS (SEL2870) Mode: M mode Shutter speed: 1/125 sec. Aperture: F5.6 ISO: 100 More at the link here: http://www.sony.net/Products/di/en-us/products/uxc2/index.html#samplephotos
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My wallet is crying. Although in all seriousness I'll probably stick to my fuji. With the way mirroless is going, I don't see myself needing an SLR anymore.
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I broke down and bought the A7r and the 55mm. At this rate I probably won't see either until February.
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krackmonkey posted:X100 peeps, the new firmware is LIVE - Fuji loves you and gives you even faster AF and focus peaking, among other perks and improvements, you lucky bitches. gently caress yeeeesssss - I know what I'm doing this morning! After the false starts and leaked info I was starting to think it wouldn't happen.
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Fujifilm XE-2 official page! http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_e2/
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X100 is 2.5 years old? It's a good send off. Now Fuji do the right thing and add slowest shutter speed to the next XE1 firmware update.
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keyframe posted:Here are a couple of hi res sample pictures from the A7. the detail Still dont see the fuss, its the same IQ as a D600. Yall sucking this sony dick a bit too soon? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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That's a bit harsh. It is pretty great quality from a fairly small-bodied camera. However, that $1000 nifty fifty they used for the first image is pretty laughable, even if it is made by Zeiss. bobfather fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Oct 18, 2013 |
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I don't think you'll find anyone to poop on the A7 as a camera. Right now it's just a poo poo system to get into, and Sony has a less than stellar track record. If/when Sigma pulls their usual move of putting out the lenses that first-parties are always too obtuse to offer, it'll be great.
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bobfather posted:That's a bit harsh. It is pretty great quality from a fairly small-bodied camera. Yeah, I don't think that anyone was expecting a full-frame mirrorless to OUTPERFORM a D600 or D800 -- to be on par is enough. And it's unfortunate that Sony's primes are so pricey, but they aren't the only ones releasing expensive primes these days.
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thetzar posted:And it's unfortunate that Sony's primes are so pricey, but they aren't the only ones releasing expensive primes these days. Noctons have always been specialized, superspendy tools. There's a reason the vintage models go for ridiculous amounts, but there are alternatives.
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thetzar posted:And it's unfortunate that Sony's primes are so pricey, but they aren't the only ones releasing expensive primes these days. Zeiss themselves literally just put out a 55/1.4 that costs $4,000. Frankly the lack of good fast 50mms on the modern market always puzzled me. Yeah there are f/1.4 lenses, f/1.2 lenses, even f/1.1 but it's all pretty much trash wide open, which is exactly why you would want to own a fast lens. The only alternative that comes to mind is Leica, which is loving expensive. I mean we have these super complex 35mm f/1.4 lenses that have good corner sharpness even wide open, but in the 50mm category everyone is using a simple Planar design. The Planar is over 100 years old and hasn't been changed for a solid 50 years. Wide open it's loaded with coma and spherical abberation and they don't even try to fix it. Sigma put some aspherical elements in the 30/1.4 crop-body Planar and that's the only evolution that comes to mind. I'd really love to see an honest fast 50 that delivers 35/1.4 level resolution at a similar price. $900 buys you a complex superfast wide angle lens, you should be able to get a decent 50mm for that money too. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Oct 18, 2013 |
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Paul MaudDib posted:Zeiss themselves literally just put out a 55/1.4 that costs $4,000. If you want a fast 50 and don't mind going manual, then there are always the Leica R lenses. R is one dead-rear end system, so the lenses tend to be cheaper on used markets.
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Paul MaudDib posted:Zeiss themselves literally just put out a 55/1.4 that costs $4,000. Beginner question, but I thought the point of having a 1.4 over a 1.8 was the 1.4 would be faster at 4 (or whatever) than the 1.8 at 4. Is that not actually true? Assuming both are rough looking wide open.
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krooj posted:If you want a fast 50 and don't mind going manual, then there are always the Leica R lenses. R is one dead-rear end system, so the lenses tend to be cheaper on used markets. I was specifically thinking of autofocus. There are a few manual focus options, like Noct-Nikkor or Leica. On the other hand paying a minimum of a couple hundred and possibly many thousands of dollars for an old manual focus lens doesn't really compare to the convenience of logging on to Adorama and putting a Sigma 35/1.4 ART in my shopping cart.
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Huxley posted:Beginner question, but I thought the point of having a 1.4 over a 1.8 was the 1.4 would be faster at 4 (or whatever) than the 1.8 at 4. Is that not actually true? No. Apertures are equivalent across lenses. F/8 is f/8 on an f/1.4 lens, a f/2 lens, a short lens, a long lens. That's the whole point of f-stop numbering, to come up with some kind of metric that can be used to measure light output regardless of what the lens is. What f/1.4 buys you is a half stop more maximum aperture. You can potentially shoot that extra half stop, but the corners are soft on superfast 50mm lenses (simple Planars, at least). Also it tends to have coma, points of light turn into squishy blobs and there can be spherical abberation, which is a "glow" (the famous Leica glow in fact). I find f/1.4 lenses wide open tend to be mushy and avoid it except for snapshots and maybe portraits. So what it buys you is a little more focus accuracy (there's more phase shift for the PDAF or shallower DoF for CDAF) and a brighter viewfinder (which cannot actually be seen in reality since modern DSLR viewfinder screens sacrifice high-aperture brightness for compatibility with the slow zooms everyone uses). f/1.8 lenses are actually usually pretty decent wide open. Not perfect, but better than f/1.4s. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Oct 18, 2013 |
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krooj posted:If you want a fast 50 and don't mind going manual, then there are always the Leica R lenses. R is one dead-rear end system, so the lenses tend to be cheaper on used markets. You can use R lens on Canon Nikon bodies anyway. IMO the 6D (or used 5D2) is still the best option for first time FF buyers.
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Nah, the best FF camera for beginners is a Pentax ME Super.
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Musket posted:Still dont see the fuss, its the same IQ as a D600. Yall sucking this sony dick a bit too soon? So it has the same IQ as a d600 while being $300 cheaper, smaller and way easier to carry. I guess you are right, it's no big deal. -- In other news here are the A7R sample pics  Lens: Distagon T* 24 mm F2 ZA SSM (SAL24F20Z) Mount Adaptor: LA-EA4 Mode: A mode Shutter speed: 0.8 sec. Aperture: F11 EV Comp.: -1.0 EV ISO: 400  Lens: Vario-Tessar T* FE 24-70 mm F4 ZA OSS (SEL2470Z) Mode: M mode Shutter speed: 1/125 sec. Aperture: F5.6 ISO: 100  Lens: Sonnar T* FE 55 mm F1.8 ZA (SEL55F18Z) Mode: M mode Shutter speed: 1/500 sec. Aperture: F2 ISO: 100 keyframe fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Oct 18, 2013 |
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keyframe posted:So it has the same IQ as a d600 while being $300 cheaper, smaller and way easier to carry. I guess you are right, it's no big deal. Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the dork room! In other news, the X-E2 actually also looks quite interesting, though a tilt screen (or even a tilt-EVF) would have been nice.
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whatever7 posted:You can use R lens on Canon Nikon bodies anyway. IMO the 6D (or used 5D2) is still the best option for first time FF buyers. Agreed - the 6D is perfect for babby. It has all the right "features" to sell and a well supported mount. Nice mirror/shutter sound, too. keyframe posted:So it has the same IQ as a d600 while being $300 cheaper, smaller and way easier to carry. I guess you are right, it's no big deal. All this is proving is how nicely Zeiss glass renders. I am certain that if you put similar glass in front of a comparable sensor from Canon, Kodak, CMOSIS or whoever, you'd see similar results. These also aren't very challenging, lighting-wise. Mr. Despair posted:Nah, the best FF camera for beginners is a Pentax ME Super. AE-1 FF Supremacy. Hail Satan. krooj fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Oct 18, 2013 |
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