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Kinu Nishimura
Apr 24, 2008

SICK LOOT!

Macaluso posted:

I was thinking and I think my least favorite thing about Kingdom Hearts 2 (which I did like just not as much as the first one) was that they didn't use "What's this" for Christmas Town and just used the same music they had for the rest of Halloween Town :mad:

This is changed in Final Mix.

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Blackbelt Bobman
Jul 17, 2004

I don't need friends! I've been
manipulatin' you since the start!
All so I can something,
something X-Blade!


In final mix, they at least have different costumes in Christmas Town!

Edit: I forgot that the music changed, too.

Blackbelt Bobman fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Oct 26, 2013

Squallege
Jan 7, 2006

No greater good, no just cause

Grimey Drawer
Yeah, now it's this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB42a4kfRVQ
and this for battles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aByCZ4GEZw

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!
Oh my gosh :swoon:

Do they really change costumes when they get to Christmas Town too?

Blackbelt Bobman
Jul 17, 2004

I don't need friends! I've been
manipulatin' you since the start!
All so I can something,
something X-Blade!


Macaluso posted:

Oh my gosh :swoon:

Do they really change costumes when they get to Christmas Town too?

Yeah, they have Christmas costumes. Jack is Sandy Claws

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

Macaluso posted:

Oh my gosh :swoon:

Do they really change costumes when they get to Christmas Town too?

Here are pictures of the Christmas gear if you are curious and can't wait til 2.5 comes out.

Sora:
http://i.imgur.com/gGlhh4L.png

Donald:
http://i.imgur.com/r7ydZjy.png

Goofy:
http://i.imgur.com/9umV3Ve.png

Jack:
http://i.imgur.com/u0kkdmp.png

PunkBoy
Aug 22, 2008

You wanna get through this?
Christmas Town was my favorite world in KH 2 just for Sora's utter excitement to meet Santa.

Spiffo
Nov 24, 2005

I did not need to hear Maleficent say the words "Oogie Boogie" out loud

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Spiffo posted:

I did not need to hear Maleficent say the words "Oogie Boogie" out loud

The best part about getting the Disney stuff more involved in the main plot will be hearing the serious, original characters say words like "Oogie Boogie" or "Goofy" or "Mickey" with seriousness.

aghastly
Nov 1, 2010

i'm an instant star
just add water and stir
I thought Disney characters saying Sephiroth was a lot funnier than Maleficent saying Oogie Boogie.

Kinu Nishimura
Apr 24, 2008

SICK LOOT!
Sephiroth, or as rendered by Donald, "%(#$&(^*#"

Squallege
Jan 7, 2006

No greater good, no just cause

Grimey Drawer
I wouldn't object to fighting Sephiroth in his weird bizarro god form in Kingdom Hearts III if only it means that I can later fight Caius "the most purple Final Fantasy character" Ballad at some point.

Rirse
May 7, 2006

by R. Guyovich

Gaseous Snake posted:

I wouldn't object to fighting Sephiroth in his weird bizarro god form in Kingdom Hearts III if only it means that I can later fight Caius "the most purple Final Fantasy character" Ballad at some point.

Only if we get Liam O'Brian saying "Sora, Donald, and Goofy".

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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I was always annoyed at how Donald and Goofy get equal credit to Sora since all they do is haul around items for him while he does all the work.

Gologle
Apr 15, 2013

The Gologle Posting Experience.

<3
Well, you're a horrible person.

x1o
Aug 5, 2005

My focus is UNPARALLELED!

Fojar38 posted:

I was always annoyed at how Donald and Goofy get equal credit to Sora since all they do is haul around items for him while he does all the work.

Based on the number of times Goofy has thrown himself in front of a spell or knocked away a heartless with charge before I could hit them, I'd swear he's really their spy in Sora's party.

DrakePegasus
Jan 30, 2009

It was Plundersaurus Rex's dream to be the greatest pirate dragon ever.

Gaseous Snake posted:

I wouldn't object to fighting Sephiroth in his weird bizarro god form in Kingdom Hearts III if only it means that I can later fight Caius "the most purple Final Fantasy character" Ballad at some point.

As long as he brings his theme music, too. On that note, I know I won't get Kefka, but that doesn't stop me hoping.

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

One thing I do hope is Donald and Goofy get better AI and are just more competent in general. I change the settings and all, but even then on the higher difficulties they don't really last long in a fight.

Hamsterlady
Jul 8, 2010

Corpse Party, bitches.

bobjr posted:

One thing I do hope is Donald and Goofy get better AI and are just more competent in general. I change the settings and all, but even then on the higher difficulties they don't really last long in a fight.

Yeah. In my experience, Donald and Goofy are either dead, or off in the corner throwing potions at each other, doing nothing to contribute. It's funny how the games where you don't have party members don't feel any different at all combat-wise.

Kheldarn
Feb 17, 2011



Gaseous Snake posted:

I wouldn't object to fighting Sephiroth in his weird bizarro god form in Kingdom Hearts III if only it means that I can later fight Caius "the most purple Final Fantasy character" Ballad at some point.

Ultros? In MY Kingdom Hearts? YES!

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



DarkHamsterlord posted:

off in the corner throwing potions at each other

That is the most adorable mental image.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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I find that Donald and Goofy do so little damage that they can't help but be completely irrelevant towards the end of the game when bosses have 20 HP bars and kill everyone but Sora in one hit.

Linear Zoetrope
Nov 28, 2011

A hero must cook
They can still be semi-useful in the coliseum for giving you two seconds of breathing room against Cloud and Leon or whatnot. It's not that important, but it is notably easier than Sora alone (until you're hilariously over-leveled/equipped at least).

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
Goofy was loving incredible in KHII if only because of his Limit Break's final attack.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!
I used Donald all the time. I practically never used Goofy. Anything he could do, the character from the world could do, and Donald was usually pretty good when it came to keeping everyone from dying

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

Goofy is pretty useful with MP Gift at least.

Syka
Mar 24, 2007
sum n00b or wut?
Yeah, In KH1 I set Donald to only use Cure and Goofy to only use MP Gift. That seemed to work out pretty well.

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

Syka posted:

Yeah, In KH1 I set Donald to only use Cure and Goofy to only use MP Gift. That seemed to work out pretty well.

In KH1 Donald's spells are identical to yours, so he too can cast the screen clearing Thundaga, and then Goofy just refills his MP.

Basically Donald and Goofy are great in KH1.

Spiffo
Nov 24, 2005

Yeah, partners are alright in KH1 once you get the ball rolling (way further into the game). In KH2 they're only good for drives and limit breaks.

Rirse
May 7, 2006

by R. Guyovich

Spiffo posted:

Yeah, partners are alright in KH1 once you get the ball rolling (way further into the game). In KH2 they're only good for drives and limit breaks.

Yeah, even the world partenrs can be good in KH1. Arial had her unique heal spell while the Beast was just super strong and tear through the Defenders like they were nothing.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Speaking of partners in KH1, it was always such a dick move to make the world's unique partner so much better than Donald/Goofy, but require you to have those two for trinity marks. So many 'ugh guess I'll be coming back for that later' moments.

Hamsterlady
Jul 8, 2010

Corpse Party, bitches.

Steve2911 posted:

Speaking of partners in KH1, it was always such a dick move to make the world's unique partner so much better than Donald/Goofy, but require you to have those two for trinity marks. So many 'ugh guess I'll be coming back for that later' moments.

Especially because in the pre-Final Mix game, Halloween Town had the one Trinity Mark in the game that you could miss permanently. And of course, I did miss it, because why would I be in Halloween Town without Jack Skellington in my party?

And that's why I never got 100% completion. Because after I did everything else, I realized I was missing a red Trinity Mark.

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

Steve2911 posted:

Speaking of partners in KH1, it was always such a dick move to make the world's unique partner so much better than Donald/Goofy, but require you to have those two for trinity marks. So many 'ugh guess I'll be coming back for that later' moments.

Eh?

I never had the impression they were better. Once I hit Agrabah there wasn't much of a reason to ever switch Donald and Goofy out.

Blackbelt Bobman
Jul 17, 2004

I don't need friends! I've been
manipulatin' you since the start!
All so I can something,
something X-Blade!


Dr Pepper posted:

Eh?

I never had the impression they were better. Once I hit Agrabah there wasn't much of a reason to ever switch Donald and Goofy out.

Jack Skellington :colbert:

Edit: you need Aladdin in your party to summon Abu and solve a bunch of puzzles . Also, I think you need Ariel in your party to summon Sebastion to hit that one switch?

BrightWing
Apr 27, 2012

Yes, he is quite mad.

Blackbelt Bobman posted:

Jack Skellington :colbert:

Edit: you need Aladdin in your party to summon Abu and solve a bunch of puzzles . Also, I think you need Ariel in your party to summon Sebastion to hit that one switch?

These are both correct. Also, you need Peter Pan to talk to Tink so you can fight Phantom. Would have really preferred having Donald and Goofy for that one.

Rirse
May 7, 2006

by R. Guyovich

BrightWing posted:

These are both correct. Also, you need Peter Pan to talk to Tink so you can fight Phantom. Would have really preferred having Donald and Goofy for that one.

Also you needed The Beast to break through walls in the sewer section of Hollow Bastion and also one shot Defenders.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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So is it ever explained why Young Xehanort looks like Terra-Xehanort?

BioMe
Aug 9, 2012


Fojar38 posted:

So is it ever explained why Young Xehanort looks like Terra-Xehanort?

Nomura can draw only one face and/or even he can't keep track of how the doppelganger thing is supposed to work at this point?

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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He usually comes up with lore reasons to explain why his characters all look so similar though, such as Ventus and Roxas or Sora and Vanitas.

I mean it wouldn't surprise me at all if he was making poo poo up as he goes along at this point but it seems like a similarity he'd have to consciously create.

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BioMe
Aug 9, 2012


Fojar38 posted:

He usually comes up with lore reasons to explain why his characters all look so similar though, such as Ventus and Roxas or Sora and Vanitas.

I mean it wouldn't surprise me at all if he was making poo poo up as he goes along at this point but it seems like a similarity he'd have to consciously create.

Yeah, but Roxas was originally supposed to look like Sora except for his hair, which I think they retconned with BBS? You'd think you can't retcon something like that, until you realize it's really hard to tell with the art style just how similar two characters are supposed to look.

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