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Aumanor posted:Can't say i agree that the title's proving particularily adequate in this particular case- allying here wasn't being good or virtuous, it was just suicidally stupid. Sure it was. We saved Quark's life, assuming Dio doesn't decide to be a double-dick and smash the bottle anyway.
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We continue to always pick the first option in every poll. I have a simple fix: From now on put Betray first in the voting. 
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Aumanor posted:Other possible candidates for suicide are the old lady and Alice, though there might have been some prof to the contrary I'm just not remembering right now.
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Oct 31, 2013 23:53
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DarkHamsterlord posted:Sure it was. We saved Quark's life, assuming Dio doesn't decide to be a double-dick and smash the bottle anyway. I just really don't see about any chance of Dio making good on his side of the bargain- he literally doesn't have a single reason to do so. He's already killed one person, and can now escape. Which, as you might remember, means that even if Quark gets the vaccine, he's still stuck there until the end of his life, along with all the others who stay. So no, suicidally stupid and possibly harmful to everyone else involved (possibly because K getting to 9 and leaving might render the influence on others a moot point) is all this decision was. Aumanor fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Oct 31, 2013 |
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Oct 31, 2013 23:55
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Aumanor posted:-I'd say that we can now be sure Dio is the one to force a betrayal in the first round of AB game, and quite possibly the one who killed everyone who didn't commit suicide (with the obvious exception of himself Dio's just symptomatic, and pulling off the longest suicide game possible- getting everyone else angry enough to kill him. He just can't do it himself, so he has to goad others into killing him.
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Nov 1, 2013 00:00
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I saw it coming, and I still voted for Ally. Because I wanna see what sort of fallout is going to happen for Dio before we die. That, and I wanna see just how much of an rear end in a top hat he can be 
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Aumanor posted:I just really don't see about any chance of Dio making good on his side of the bargain- he literally doesn't have a single reason to do so. He's already killed one person, and can now escape. Which, as you might remember, means that even if Quark gets the vaccine, he's still stuck there until the end of his life, along with all the others who stay. He doesn't have a reason not to give up the vaccine either though, unless he plans to take it himself just in case he caught Radical 6 from Quark. He's free to leave, so it's not like people will turn on him when he reveals that he used a child's life as blackmail. It was a stupid decision, but I think it was a virtuous one regardless.
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Nov 1, 2013 00:03
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Aumanor posted:Aaand, we're dead. That's why I voted Ally, but the reason why I wanted it to go in this direction won't become apparent until later. But that's all I'm going to say about it. To say more would be spoiler territory. (also I fixed those spelling errors cause I'm OCD like that  )
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Aumanor posted:So, now that Dio's gone and killed us(HUGE TWIST!!!), I'm really curious as to the workings of the goonmind. How many of you who voted ally actually expected Dio not to betray? How manu have already played through the game and just wanted to force this particular outcome? Do you think you could make a quick pol on the side, Fedule? As someone who hasn't played the game before and who figured that Dio was pretty likely to vote Betray, I voted "Ally" just to see what would happen. Will Sigma actually die right here and now? Or will there be some kind of twist?
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Aumanor posted:So, now that Dio's gone and killed us(HUGE TWIST!!!), I'm really curious as to the workings of the goonmind. How many of you who voted ally actually expected Dio not to betray? How many of you have already played through the game and just wanted to force this particular outcome? Do you think you could make a quick pol on the side, Fedule? There's really no need for that, given that the whole point of the off-site polling to begin with was so that the thread wouldn't be cluttered up with tons of vote posts and justifications behind them.
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Nov 1, 2013 01:39
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Yay! Now I can finally post this gif animation thing I made way back when!
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Honestly, I just wanted people to be aware that Dio was a douche. HelloWinter posted:Yay! Now I can finally post this gif animation thing I made way back when! Oh, that was your Tumblr? I would've cited you as the artist if I'd known that.
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Oh, no worries. I'm not all that privy when it comes to fan art. edit: Quote is not Edit. 
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That .gif is the best. And it still makes me hear "Take On Me" in my head whenever I see it. 
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W.T. Fits posted:There's really no need for that, given that the whole point of the off-site polling to begin with was so that the thread wouldn't be cluttered up with tons of vote posts and justifications behind them. I thought the point was to prevent a flood of posts that are just quote:I vote Ally With no explanation, because 90% of the people voting aren't going to explain why they voted as they did. I don't think anyone cares if you post something like quote:I voted ally because my mother taught me to always keep your promises, and Sigma promised to vote ally.
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W.T. Fits posted:There's really no need for that, given that the whole point of the off-site polling to begin with was so that the thread wouldn't be cluttered up with tons of vote posts and justifications behind them. For a game like this, the experience of the LP isn't limited to just the game itself - the off-site voting makes things a hell of a lot easier to count the votes and stop a flood of 3-word posts, but a huge chunk of why I (and I'm assuming most of the thread) keep coming back is the interaction of the readers. Justifications and speculations that vary so widely add tons of depth to the LP, and if you step back it can even give a sense of how conflicted the inner workings of Siggy's mind could actually be. Stopping the justification posts in a thread like this seem to be pretty analogous to going to a Rocky Horror theater showing and trying to sush the audience because you're trying to watch the movie.
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Welp we died. The end. I hereby move that we rename the thread to "Dio Must Die" 
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DarkHamsterlord posted:I thought the point was to prevent a flood of posts that are just Sentient Data posted:For a game like this, the experience of the LP isn't limited to just the game itself - the off-site voting makes things a hell of a lot easier to count the votes and stop a flood of 3-word posts, but a huge chunk of why I (and I'm assuming most of the thread) keep coming back is the interaction of the readers. Justifications and speculations that vary so widely add tons of depth to the LP, and if you step back it can even give a sense of how conflicted the inner workings of Siggy's mind could actually be. Fair enough. I was mainly under the impression it was to curtail justification posts because it also would curtail the posts from people complaining about how the people who've played the game before and thus already know what's going to happen are unfairly influencing the direction the LP goes. But I suppose that was a mistaken assumption on my part. That said, I still don't think it's necessary for Fedule to make another off-site poll just to indulge someone's curiosity.
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Uh. The reason anyone uses offsite polls in LPs is so that the thread doesn't get gummed up with page after page of Ally Betray Ally Ally Betray Betray Betray Ally Ally Ally Ally where no-one bothers actually discussing anything because it'll get swept up in an endless sea of votes. Also because it allows more readers to vote. Curtailing justification posts is exactly what I don't want to do. There's no thread rule against discussing the decision at hand!
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So I think the whole point of this game, like the first one, is to help fix something through time travel weirdness. We're meant to save Quark and have everyone escape safely with Dio tied up and revealed as some sort of horrible murderous person.
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Oraculum Animi posted:So I think the whole point of this game, like the first one, is to help fix something through time travel weirdness. We're meant to save Quark and have everyone escape safely with Dio tied up and revealed as some sort of horrible murderous person. So basically you want 999 completely repeated, except with Dio instead of Ace in the trunk of the car as they drive out of the factory while they see another 2000 year old Egyptian princess?
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Mister Roboto posted:So basically you want 999 completely repeated, except with Dio instead of Ace in the trunk of the car as they drive out of the factory while they see another 2000 year old Egyptian princess? The time element isn't there like in 999, at least not yet. Instead we have a disease and robots instead. There are also different puzzles and different character interactions and why some characters have reappeared. I just feel a major point in this game is to find the choices that enable us to give the antidote to Quark and escape with everyone alive. Our first attempt failed with most everyone dead and now this attempt is going to (presumably) end up with us dead and the head rear end in a top hat escaping.
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What the gently caress K/Alice? That actually caught me totally off guard. This has to be K's doing right? I wonder if he expected Tenmjouyi to betray for some reason. Don't be evil mr robot
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Super Jay Mann posted:Welp we died. The end. Yeah, I don't see what the point of this is. Unless Zero III was lying, Sigma will die really quickly, so even if interesting things happen, mostly we won't see them. Sure, Dio will get his head caved in probably, but that doesn't matter because this is a dead end route. And probably 99% of the people that voted Ally knew it and didn't care. I have no idea what the hell is going on. 
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Presumably we're dead, and most likely we are, but I'm still gonna hang on to the hope that Siggy cuts of his arm/slides something solid between his wrist and the needles/constructs the world's largest lever and snaps the thing off. Seriously, have these guys never seen a Saw movie?
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We have ten minutes between the injection of the Soporil and the poison. Just enough for dramatic tension!
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klaphark posted:What the gently caress K/Alice? That actually caught me totally off guard. This has to be K's doing right? I wonder if he expected Tenmjouyi to betray for some reason. Don't be evil mr robot Do you even remember the previous update? K and Alice both knew that Tenmyouji stayed behind to look after Quark and would auto-ally. Therefore K or Alice chose Betray knowing they'd both get an easy 3 points. Also note that Tenmyouji won't die if he's betrayed. He's pretty safe at
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Ramengank posted:Do you even remember the previous update? K and Alice both knew that Tenmyouji stayed behind to look after Quark and would auto-ally. Therefore K or Alice chose Betray knowing they'd both get an easy 3 points. Also note that Tenmyouji won't die if he's betrayed. He's pretty safe at Alice said she was not going to betray because that would give K 9 points. They tied to get K to stay behind so he would not betray but he clearly lied that he would not backstab.
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Oraculum Animi posted:So I think the whole point of this game, like the first one, is to help fix something through time travel weirdness. We're meant to save Quark and have everyone escape safely with Dio tied up and revealed as some sort of horrible murderous person. This game doesn't have time travel or morphic fields, as far as I can tell. The branching paths are just that: different possibilities, like a CYOA book. Going down each path and finding the right order of events as a player, not as a character, is the order of the day. I voted ally because I wanted to see how big of a dick Dio really is.
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I voted for this in part because I was curious to see if Dio would in fact attempt to murder Sigma, and to confirm that in such a case that we really would die. If we all voted for Betray because we feared that Dio would betray us, we'd just probably end up having that same argument again some time later. I'd rather get it over with now.
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W.T. Fits posted:I can't wait to see the Dio apologists try to justify this. He clearly has a daughter with Radical-6, and he needs to rush out to heal her with the Axelavir.
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I was more interested in seeing if Dio would uphold his end of the bargain and give the Axelavir back. I figured Sigma would die because Dio wants to get out of there at any cost, but now that he's at 9 points and supposedly free to escape, I wonder if he'll help Quark before leaving or just be a dick.MonsterEnvy posted:Alice said she was not going to betray because that would give K 9 points. They tied to get K to stay behind so he would not betray but he clearly lied that he would not backstab. I don't mean to sound like a K apologist, but isn't it possible that Alice was lying so she would get more points for herself? I mean, it can certainly be bad if K walks right out, but he doesn't HAVE to walk out right away, right? Even if a person has 9 points they could stay and wait for others to get more points, unless I'm forgetting a rule. This would require Alice to have a lot of trust in K however, which she is very unlikely to have. So yeah, it's a simpler (and more likely) explanation for K to have overpowered Alice and pushed Betray himself and be evil. But that's certainly not as evil as Dio's betrayal.  Anyway, my main gripe was with the sentence "I wonder if he expected Tenmyouji to betray for some reason", which is a line of reasoning that doesn't make sense because they all knew Tenmyouji was physically unable to vote this round.
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klaphark posted:What the gently caress K/Alice? That actually caught me totally off guard. This has to be K's doing right? I wonder if he expected Tenmjouyi to betray for some reason. Don't be evil mr robot Also, Betray got him to 9, so perhaps he could use that to chase after and strangle Dio for being a giant dickbag. Finally, Luna was betrayed in the first round this time, so she might have voted instead of K. The final explanation is that K is a robot and was programmed to be nice to everyone except when voting.
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HelloWinter posted:Yay! Now I can finally post this gif animation thing I made way back when! Could someone please make this into an avatar? This is just so... Wonderful. [e]: It's doubly satisfying to see Dio's face being punched in over and over again. Granolaman posted:Presumably we're dead, and most likely we are, but I'm still gonna hang on to the hope that Siggy cuts of his arm/slides something solid between his wrist and the needles/constructs the world's largest lever and snaps the thing off. I agree, wouldn't that give Sigma and company just enough time to sever his hand to avoid being poisoned and suffocating to death? I'd rather lose my hand than my life, to be quite honest. [e2]: Also, does anyone know what Kotaro Uchikoshi had in mind originally for the sequel considering the higher-ups supposedly told him to tone it down after 999? Teriyaki Koinku fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Nov 1, 2013 |
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[e]: Sorry, double post.
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I'm sort of dissapointed that dio voted betray. It seemed like it was so obviously going there that the game would have tried to subvert expectations a little. But, nope, Dio is a right bastard afterall.
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At least he's consistent. He always votes "Betray" 100% of the time.
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I figured he'd have some complex plot behind it all, but nope, just a conniving little prick. K buddy, you better avenge our dumb dead rear end.
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DeliciousCookie posted:I'm sort of dissapointed that dio voted betray. It seemed like it was so obviously going there that the game would have tried to subvert expectations a little. But, nope, Dio is a right bastard afterall. Well why would he do that, though? He'd be at eight points, and if people are gonna think you're an rear end in a top hat either way...
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