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Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Flumbooze posted:

For the upcoming PS4 release, I want to order a new television for my own use. That means I'll only use it for gaming on my PS4 and maybe watching porn when I get bored of my games.

I can choose between a 22" Full HDTV or a 32" HD Ready TV. Which one do I pick? Both TV's have their pro's and con's and I really don't know which one to pick here.

Why are those your only choices? Plenty of 32" displays sport a native res of 1080p these days.
What is your budget?

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Spider2414
Apr 17, 2013

Mister Macys posted:

Why are those your only choices? Plenty of 32" displays sport a native res of 1080p these days.
What is your budget?

It's just a TV for my own use and I don't really want to spend more than €300 on it.

JPrime
Jul 4, 2007

tales of derring-do, bad and good luck tales!
College Slice
Are there any recommendations for something in the 50" range, < $1000? I'm looking at these 2 Vizio's on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/VIZIO-E500i-A...ywords=vizio+tv

http://www.amazon.com/VIZIO-E500d-A...ywords=vizio+tv

I currently have a 32" Vizio and have had no problems with it, but I'm open to other brands.

Edit: I also am contemplating this one (saw in best buy ad today and it's the same price on Amazon): http://www.amazon.com/VIZIO-M501d-A2R-50-Inch-1080p-240Hz/dp/B00CCYZ13S

JPrime fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Nov 3, 2013

Midnight City
Jun 3, 2013

A 10% levy on BAKED GOODS?!

I posted a few pages back about an LG 60PN6500 Plasma. Had it now for almost 2 months and it's only getting worse burn in. I've timed it and can't have a static spot on the screen for even 2 hours without it being burnt in, I talked to LG's customer support people and they're acting like that's par for the course for plasmas and there was nothing I could do (or that they would do). Running one of the screen flashing videos for 22 straight hours isn't even fixing some of them now.

It's way past Amazon's return policy but I called them and told them what was going on and they're taking it back for a full refund. gently caress this TV so much, or gently caress plasmas, or gently caress LG. Or all 3 I don't even know.

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


I can't comment on plasmas, but I have yet to find a piece of LG hardware/software that I like. If the hardware's okay, the software is poo poo. If the software's okay, the hardware is poo poo. If they both seem okay, wait a month.

Midnight City
Jun 3, 2013

A 10% levy on BAKED GOODS?!

Bad Munki posted:

I can't comment on plasmas, but I have yet to find a piece of LG hardware/software that I like. If the hardware's okay, the software is poo poo. If the software's okay, the hardware is poo poo. If they both seem okay, wait a month.

Their customer support seems to be straight out of those shady warranty places like Warrentech where they repeatedly hang up on you during 'transfers' to get out of the claim. Took 4 calls to finally get them to tell me a definite no.

Just ordered a Sharp Aquos LC-60LE550 LED. My last TV before this LG was a Sharp Aquos LCD and I loved it, just needed something bigger.

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


On the flip side, I have yet to meet a bit of Samsung kit that I don't like.

surf rock
Aug 12, 2007

We need more women in STEM, and by that, I mean skateboarding, television, esports, and magic.

cbirdsong posted:

So I should try to buy one of those before then, if I was thinking of getting one in the next year or so? I'm guessing prices will not be dropping like crazy.

I'm in the same boat. I'll be getting my own place in July, and I was planning to buy myself the Panasonic ST60 (or whatever the 2014 version would've been) as a housewarming gift.

What are the chances that I'll still be able to find one then with Panasonic not producing them anymore? If the odds are 0%, how soon do I need to buy it if I want to have a top-notch big TV for ~$1,500? I just can't justify spending more than that on a television, so the OLED options seem like they're not really options for another few years.

Cherokee Jack
Dec 27, 2005

Well, was going to buy a new TV this fall but our cat was ill, then had to replace all 4 tires on my vehicle, so there went savings. Kitty is better, though. :3:

Anyways now I find out Panasonic is pulling out of the plasma business.

I realize that for the money the ST series is probably the best there is, but is the regular S series any good? Does it still trounce LCD? I know it's missing some features and it doesn't have 3D, but I was wondering if anyone here has any experience with the TCP**S60 series.

Few weeks ago when I was at Walmart (I know, bear with me) they had a bunch of LCD TV's showing some computer animated movie and one of the sets had the whole soap opera effect going on. I don't know how people can watch TV like that, it looked terrible.

Very late edit: Apparently the Panasonic E60 series of LCD televisions is pretty drat good for the price. Still wish I didn't have to pay the Canada tax. :mad:

Cherokee Jack fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Nov 6, 2013

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

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Would I be a complete idiot to buy a 50" TV that's not 1080p in 2013? I'd really like a bigger TV than my 40" now that I moved to a huge place, and I think it's come down to the 65" S60 or Samsung's 50" 720p set, which seems to have pretty rave reviews and represent an awesome value.

http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/the-best-500-tv/

GokieKS
Dec 15, 2012

Mostly Harmless.

Cherokee Jack posted:

Well, was going to buy a new TV this fall but our cat was ill, then had to replace all 4 tires on my vehicle, so there went savings. Kitty is better, though. :3:

Anyways now I find out Panasonic is pulling out of the plasma business.

I realize that for the money the ST series is probably the best there is, but is the regular S series any good? Does it still trounce LCD? I know it's missing some features and it doesn't have 3D, but I was wondering if anyone here has any experience with the TCP**S60 series.

Few weeks ago when I was at Walmart (I know, bear with me) they had a bunch of LCD TV's showing some computer animated movie and one of the sets had the whole soap opera effect going on. I don't know how people can watch TV like that, it looked terrible.

Very late edit: Apparently the Panasonic E60 series of LCD televisions is pretty drat good for the price. Still wish I didn't have to pay the Canada tax. :mad:

If you don't need the features of the ST60 (notably 3D), the S60 is just about as good in image quality, and has lower input lag. It's probably the best option in its price range, since the 50" can be found for $700 or less fairly often (in US anyway).

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Weinertron posted:

Would I be a complete idiot to buy a 50" TV that's not 1080p in 2013? I'd really like a bigger TV than my 40" now that I moved to a huge place, and I think it's come down to the 65" S60 or Samsung's 50" 720p set, which seems to have pretty rave reviews and represent an awesome value.

http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/the-best-500-tv/

This is a case where I'd take Televisioninfo's advice over CNet's, and purchase the S60.

quote:

The perfect TV... for 2009

The PN51F4500 ($849) is Samsung's entry-level plasma series for 2013. That means no 3D, smart content, or wacky features. For that cheap price, you're buying a basic display with a 720p native resolution.

The F4500 offers solid picture quality, but only for sub-1080p content like cable and DVDs. That's perfect for the majority of viewers, though. Looking for an investment that'll be relevant longer? Check out the competition.

89
Feb 24, 2006

#worldchamps
So, I haven't received it yet, but incase I do...I might have lucked out on the early morning Wal-Mart screwups and nabbed a 64" Samsung PN64F5300 for $300 ($400 after tax & shipping). Any word on how this measure up to my slightly dated, but super sharp Panasonic Viera TC-P50GT25? Seems like there's some lag issues with the Samsung in FPSs, but I'm hoping I won't notice it much...

Samsung FS300 Review:
http://tv.toptenreviews.com/flat-panel/plasma/samsung/samsung-f5300-review.html

The cons I've read:

- Possible lag issues in Game Mode?
- Lack of SmartTV functions
- Not 3D
- Only 2 HDMI ports

I really don't care about SmartTV functions as hooking up XBMC TV gives any TV a million times more the function. And I will be losing 3D....but it's not like I've hardly touched it on my Panasonic in over a year anyways...and I only need two HDMI inputs as everything goes through my reciever.

89 fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Nov 7, 2013

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:
Displaylag.com lists the input lag at 47ms, or just under three frames.
It's borderline noticeable; you definitely wouldn't want to go higher.

Number_6
Jul 23, 2006

BAN ALL GAS GUZZLERS

(except for mine)
Pillbug

Cherokee Jack posted:



I realize that for the money the ST series is probably the best there is, but is the regular S series any good? Does it still trounce LCD? I know it's missing some features and it doesn't have 3D, but I was wondering if anyone here has any experience with the TCP**S60 series.


I've been pouring over reviews and forums, and the only knocks on the S60 I can find are, (a) it has a highly reflective screen so it's not too good in a bright room, (b) "only" 2 HDMI inputs, (c) some reports of line bleeding in specific circumstances. Also, I think the ST60 has some modes that deal with 24 fps source material better than the S60.

Also I'm annoyed that it doesn't have analog stereo out, but that is sadly true of most current displays and is not unique to Panasonic.

Boozie
Feb 2, 2013
About to wall mount a Samsung UN46F5500 and am not sure what I should buy.

I was looking at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882876036 solely due to it's high rating. I've seen cheaper on Amazon with good ratings but I wasn't sure the best way to make sure I get a quality product. Also, is there any way I can confirm the brackets will line up with the TV ahead of time? (I don't own the TV yet either)

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:
Just make sure the stand is compatible with the display's VESA mount dimensions.

In the case of the UN46F5500, it's 400x400, which that Newegg one you linked can do.

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


Is the tilt feature something you specifically want? If not, you can get a slimmer one pretty easily. I have this one and am totally happy with it: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007Y4TUL0/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

incorporeal
May 6, 2006

Been looking to get a new tv to go with the ps4 I'm getting next week but I really don't know what's good anymore. I see mix reviews for every tv it seems. I'm looking for a 65 or 70 inch tv that's good for gaming. Don't want to spend over $2000 if I can help it.

Teriyaki Koinku
Nov 25, 2008

Bread! Bread! Bread!

Bread! BREAD! BREAD!
What is the difference between getting an OLED 1080p HDTV and a 4k LED HDTV in terms of picture quality? Everyone seems to agree that OLED is superior to LED and Plasma, but why are the two OLED HDTVs available only come in 1080p?

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


Because it's the hot new budding technology and they're not going to bother doing anything less. The resolution is a small portion of the price tag, they'd basically be trying to sell a four thousand dollar 720p tv next to a four thousand dollar 1080p tv.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

OLED looks significantly better than 4k in the same display size, according to most sources.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Bad Munki posted:

Because it's the hot new budding technology and they're not going to bother doing anything less. The resolution is a small portion of the price tag, they'd basically be trying to sell a four thousand dollar 720p tv next to a four thousand dollar 1080p tv.

I think he means why are there no 4k OLED TVs and the answer is because it would be ungodly expensive and they probably don't have panel yields that high yet.

How a display handles contrast, black level, color and motion trump resolution almost always and OLED should be superior in all those categories.

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


Oh, yeah, that makes more sense. :downs:

LorneReams
Jun 27, 2003
I'm bizarre
I've installed countless mounts and by far this one:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004L5DMOQ/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

has been the best. It only requires one stud which is a god send for some installations.

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

incorporeal posted:

Been looking to get a new tv to go with the ps4 I'm getting next week but I really don't know what's good anymore. I see mix reviews for every tv it seems. I'm looking for a 65 or 70 inch tv that's good for gaming. Don't want to spend over $2000 if I can help it.

http://www.displaylag.com/display-database/

Anything with "Okay" or above will be fine for gaming, Any TV made in 2013 about 1500 dollars will be awesome. Sony usually wins at both of these. I got a Samsung and I can't really notice any input lag so I'm talking about differences of frames in fighting games or something, if you're that hardcore.

The more bells & whistles the TV advertises, the better it will look in general (Smart TV, 3D, 120hz etc). Don't think of these as gimmicks, once you have them you'll really enjoy them.

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


TheRamblingSoul posted:

What is the difference between getting an OLED 1080p HDTV and a 4k LED HDTV in terms of picture quality? Everyone seems to agree that OLED is superior to LED and Plasma, but why are the two OLED HDTVs available only come in 1080p?

Do you have the budget for either?

89
Feb 24, 2006

#worldchamps

89 posted:

So, I haven't received it yet, but incase I do...I might have lucked out on the early morning Wal-Mart screwups and nabbed a 64" Samsung PN64F5300 for $300 ($400 after tax & shipping). Any word on how this measure up to my slightly dated, but super sharp Panasonic Viera TC-P50GT25? Seems like there's some lag issues with the Samsung in FPSs, but I'm hoping I won't notice it much...

Samsung FS300 Review:
http://tv.toptenreviews.com/flat-panel/plasma/samsung/samsung-f5300-review.html

The cons I've read:

- Possible lag issues in Game Mode?
- Lack of SmartTV functions
- Not 3D
- Only 2 HDMI ports

I really don't care about SmartTV functions as hooking up XBMC TV gives any TV a million times more the function. And I will be losing 3D....but it's not like I've hardly touched it on my Panasonic in over a year anyways...and I only need two HDMI inputs as everything goes through my reciever.

I guess the big thing I'm wondering, will there be a drop in picture quality? I kind of hand picked the Panasonic GT25 back when I got it because it was the absolute best bang for buck for a $1000 TV.

IUG
Jul 14, 2007


Is there a TV/Home Theater Remote thread somewhere I'm not seeing? My brother has a Harmony remote, but now has more devices than that remote will support. I don't even know if Logitech is still the only game in town. I've never liked their interface (although my brother showed me they do have a web interface that is, sadly, better than the application they made), so I was wondering if something else outclassed them finally.

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:
Harmony's the best known, and the one most A/V goons recommend. You may have to upgrade to a newer, fancier, more expensive one.
Eventually smartphones will be good choice for universal remotes, as more devices support apps for them.

Harmony actually has a smartphone looking one too, but it's stupid expensive.

You could probably try the Video Quick Questions thread, or the Quick Audio Questions thread, both in this subforum.
I should get one myself. Juggling three remotes is getting old.

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

SAVE THE BEES
PLANT MORE TREES
CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS




I've started the annual Black Friday HDTV sales thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3583704

dentist toy box
Oct 9, 2012

There's a haint in the foothills of NC; the haint of the #3 chevy. The rich have formed a holy alliance to exorcise it but they'll never fucking catch him.


That Insignia deal looks really good and is the exact size I'm looking for, But are they utter poo poo? I have a friend with one and it looks pretty good but the thing is he leaves it in Vivid mode all the time so I can't really tell if it looks good or not. Would they be comparable to say Vizio? which is what I have right now and like.

dentist toy box fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Nov 9, 2013

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Mister Macys posted:

Harmony actually has a smartphone looking one too, but it's stupid expensive.

I think you can buy that Harmony adapter separate from the remotes and use their app.

Shine
Feb 26, 2007

No Muscles For The Majority
Seems like the Panasonic plasmas are a great option if I just want a bigass TV for gaming (including rhythm/fighting games) and don't care about the heat or weight, yeah? Or am I missing something significant? Should I be worried about screen burn from persistent GUI elements in games?

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

The Smart models, ST60, have high lag. The non-Smart S60s are pretty good though. Picture quality on S60s isn't quite as good as ST60s but should still be very good.

Burn-in shouldn't be a concern. You might see some retention after a gaming binge but nothing permanent.

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Shine posted:

Seems like the Panasonic plasmas are a great option if I just want a bigass TV for gaming (including rhythm/fighting games) and don't care about the heat or weight, yeah? Or am I missing something significant? Should I be worried about screen burn from persistent GUI elements in games?


It shouldn't be an issue unless you're playing games where the HUD elements don't go away in the pause/menu screens. MMO cooldowns and such; but it would still need to be for hours and hours at a time. There may be noticeable temporary image retention from especially bright menu elements. For the most part however, I've found that static menus and dashboards/desktops are more of a problem than games themselves. And plasma displays will have screen burn protection options in their menus; turning off with no source signal, pixel orbiter/shifting, inbuilt screen savers, and others. Combined with screen dimming/savers in the consoles/PCs themselves, I've yet to have a problem, whether using my Mac, viewing multiple episodes in 4:3 format, or long 360 CoD sessions.

Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Nov 10, 2013

Jerk Burger
Jul 4, 2003

King of the Monkeys

Aphrodite posted:

The Smart models, ST60, have high lag. The non-Smart S60s are pretty good though. Picture quality on S60s isn't quite as good as ST60s but should still be very good.

Burn-in shouldn't be a concern. You might see some retention after a gaming binge but nothing permanent.
The lag opinions online seem to range from "can't see it" to "the lag stole my baby", and some of the negative comments seem to be from ppl who don't even have one. Hard to know who to believe, although I think the image quality is great and am getting one delivered on Tuesday :D

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Are we going to be seeing a big drop in price on the S60s now that Panasonic is calling it quits in plasma? I've been on the fence a bunch over the past 6 months or so about getting a new TV, and I've almost pulled the trigger on an S60 a couple times, but held off because I wanted to see if it's going down even further when new models come out, but without new models, are they just gonna stick around at where they're at now or are they getting fire-sold on Black Friday?

A Retardet Horse
Dec 25, 2009

what is
going
on?
what is
this?
ahhhh...

Yoshifan823 posted:

Are we going to be seeing a big drop in price on the S60s now that Panasonic is calling it quits in plasma? I've been on the fence a bunch over the past 6 months or so about getting a new TV, and I've almost pulled the trigger on an S60 a couple times, but held off because I wanted to see if it's going down even further when new models come out, but without new models, are they just gonna stick around at where they're at now or are they getting fire-sold on Black Friday?

I, too, was waiting to see if the S60 would get heavily discounted on black friday. But then I ran out of willpower and it's going to be delivered this Thursday. This will probably be a nice upgrade from our 19" Toshiba that we've been using for the last 5 years.

Which leads to my next question: that old TV had a built-in dvd player, whereas the S60 does not. I was wondering if there is a good recommendation for a new DVD player to pick up that would be compatible with the S60. Or, if this is not the right thread for such a question, which thread would serve me better.

Edit: Or would I be better served to just get a complete "home theater" system? I'm currently trying to research both dvd players and sound systems, but it looks like there may be some items that combine the two.

A Retardet Horse fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Nov 10, 2013

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dentist toy box
Oct 9, 2012

There's a haint in the foothills of NC; the haint of the #3 chevy. The rich have formed a holy alliance to exorcise it but they'll never fucking catch him.


If you're getting a new plasma screen TV you might as well turn toward this http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3299977&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1 and not a DVD player.

Don't get a "Home Theater in a box", most of them are pretty awful and are convenience over quality and price.

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