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So just to be perfectly clear, Return is still as useful as it always was, right? I don't need to spend forever maxing out affection/fullness/enjoyment in order for it to be full power? Funniest Pokemon-amie observation so far: Farfetch'd gets pissed off if you pet its leek.
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LAY-ZX posted:This is the worst part about this generation not getting broken open; I am a nerd, and I hate not having real numbers to look at when doing things. Without cracking the game is there ever any way we'll know shiny rates? I mean I imagine there's some dude somewhere that will write down every single encounter he has but even then how many would we need to know for sure? Or even kinda for sure
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Nov 16, 2013 01:44
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I fought a guy on Showdown doubles last night (I should really start remembering to save replays) who had just two pokemon in his team, Seaking and Shedinja. Turn one Seaking used soak on shedinja to make it a water type. Turn two I use target both with grass attacks, fainting Seaking and activating Focus Sash. Turn three I target Shedinja with both grass attacks and win the battle. What exactly was this guy trying to pull off? Was he just hoping I had no way to hit a Water type super effectively?
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Nov 16, 2013 01:46
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As high (small) as the numbers dealing with shiny rates are, it's pretty much impossible for us to ever nail them down purely through testing. We're currently just making assumptions based on what they used to be, but even that might not be correct!
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Nov 16, 2013 01:47
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We should get a goon tournament going.
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Nov 16, 2013 01:54
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myron cope posted:Without cracking the game is there ever any way we'll know shiny rates? I mean I imagine there's some dude somewhere that will write down every single encounter he has but even then how many would we need to know for sure? Or even kinda for sure Wonder Trading is unencrypted, because of that some people have been able to figure out the format X and Y use for sending Pokemon. This is what's letting people see that there's a greater odd of a Pokemon being shiny. What determines a Pokemon being shiny or not is based off a Pokemon's "Personality Value", a 32-Bit integer generated when a Pokemon is obtained, that's used to determine a some elements about a Pokemon. A Pokemon's Gender, Nature, and Ability are determined by this number. The game takes the Personality Value, the Player's Trainer ID and Secret ID (A second, hidden Trainer ID) and does a fairly complex calculations with them, if the result is 8 or lower, the Pokemon is Shiny. But... since people are able to extract their Pokemon data through the unencrypted Wonder Trade they're able to see that shiny Pokemon are being made with a result of 9 to 16.
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Nov 16, 2013 02:05
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Welp, I started breeding.
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Nov 16, 2013 02:07
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Speaking of breeding, how about the gross negligence shown by the day care people. They never know how the egg shows up. Clearly they aren't even watching our pokemon, even a little!
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Nov 16, 2013 02:09
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myron cope posted:Speaking of breeding, how about the gross negligence shown by the day care people. They never know how the egg shows up. Clearly they aren't even watching our pokemon, even a little! I just justify it as them not wanting to be the ones telling little kids where babies come from.
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Nov 16, 2013 02:10
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myron cope posted:Without cracking the game is there ever any way we'll know shiny rates? I mean I imagine there's some dude somewhere that will write down every single encounter he has but even then how many would we need to know for sure? Or even kinda for sure  Sadly that's what we're limited to though, we can't check how it actually generates Pokémon now. For example - Maybe Masuda is the same as it was before? Maybe its rate was increased again, as it was in g5? Maybe it's based on the new doubled rate and then does the same amount of rerolling as g5, making for crazyass odds? Does safari go through the same or similar sorts of checks? Do hordes increase shiny rate for real or just via numbers spamming? How the gently caress does the radar work this gen?  beaten a lil but still
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Nov 16, 2013 02:13
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:We should get a goon tournament going. Gimme a couple hours, OP is done. Also anyone care to help me out with a couple battles to see what we can work with in the settings for 6v6? EDIT: treeboy posted:thanks for all the replies, i didn't realize there was a google doc in the trade OP. See what the IV is, if it's like 26 or 30 or something like that I'd say keep it. What gender? If it's female I could toss a male with some egg moves at you. PSWII60 fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Nov 16, 2013 |
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In my wi-fi battles, I encountered a player that was the very definition of why the weather-ability nerf was so necessary in gen6. Starts with a Hippodown (w/ Sand Stream, obviously) holding a pecha perry. His strategy was: Stealth Rock, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn... What the gently caress am I supposed to do against that?
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Nov 16, 2013 02:40
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Voltin Bolt posted:I would hazard a guess that this only applies to things caught in gen6 though and we're not gonna get spontaneous PokéBank shinies, there's certain to be a flag for that Yeah ever since the current method of determining Shininess (In GenII it was based off IVs) once a Pokemon is shiny it has a flag set so that it's always Shiny. Amusingly enough, Shininess is determined when an Egg hatches, but the Pokemon with its IVs and Personality Value is determined when the egg is gotten. So you can trade an egg that wouldn't be Shiny for you over to someone else, and it will be Shiny for them when it hatches.
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Sanctum posted:In my wi-fi battles, I encountered a player that was the very definition of why the weather-ability nerf was so necessary in gen6. Starts with a Hippodown (w/ Sand Stream, obviously) holding a pecha perry. His strategy was: Stealth Rock, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn... If you have anybody with Insomnia, Vital Spirit, Natutal Cure, Early Bird or the like as an ability, is holding a Lum or Chesto berry, has Sleep Talk you can tank it. Or hit him with a special water or ice attack or spore him. Or just tank it, you know 2 of his moves already. Best guess is one of the other 2 was slack off with the 4th being earthquake. Switch in someone she can resist or has a ground immunity and force his switch. One of those other two moves might be Ice Fang though, so that last ones a bit of a gamble.
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Nov 16, 2013 02:52
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Sanctum posted:In my wi-fi battles, I encountered a player that was the very definition of why the weather-ability nerf was so necessary in gen6. Starts with a Hippodown (w/ Sand Stream, obviously) holding a pecha perry. His strategy was: Stealth Rock, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn... Switch in an Espeon or Xatu. Or spam U-turn. Also, switch in a Poison Heal toxic orb Gliscor. Toxic orb will activate before yawn can put him to sleep and you can wall hippo pretty easily unless it has ice fang. Depending on the set you can probably survive Ice Fang too. Also stealth rock can't be used by hippowdon this gen so far or are you playing B2W2. Zoness fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Nov 16, 2013 |
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Nov 16, 2013 02:54
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Sanctum posted:In my wi-fi battles, I encountered a player that was the very definition of why the weather-ability nerf was so necessary in gen6. Starts with a Hippodown (w/ Sand Stream, obviously) holding a pecha perry. His strategy was: Stealth Rock, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn, Yawn... You can take the sleep and kill it. If you didn't have anything that could hurt Hippowdon much then you might have been screwed even without yawn. Taunt and substitute are more direct answers.
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Nov 16, 2013 02:54
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I just caught a Shiny Sliggoo that has Gooey and is Brave Natured. 31s in Attack and Special Attack. Is there a way I can make this thing useful?
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Nov 16, 2013 03:20
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LAY-ZX posted:I just justify it as them not wanting to be the ones telling little kids where babies come from. I dunno, maybe they're just really ignorant. I can never decide whether I want to imagine the Day Care Man saying that line in a really lost voice, or a really facetious one.
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Nov 16, 2013 03:28
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Does anybody know if Safeguard protects against flinching or infatuation?
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Nov 16, 2013 03:34
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everythingWasBees posted:Does anybody know if Safeguard protects against flinching or infatuation? It definitely doesn't protect against flinching, pretty sure it doesn't protect from infatuation either.
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Nov 16, 2013 03:36
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PSWII60 posted:If you have anybody with Insomnia, Vital Spirit, Natutal Cure, Early Bird or the like as an ability, is holding a Lum or Chesto berry, has Sleep Talk you can tank it. Or hit him with a special water or ice attack or spore him. Or just tank it, you know 2 of his moves already. Best guess is one of the other 2 was slack off with the 4th being earthquake. Switch in someone she can resist or has a ground immunity and force his switch. One of those other two moves might be Ice Fang though, so that last ones a bit of a gamble.
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Nov 16, 2013 03:36
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I just wonder traded away 10 Haunters and Gravelers to bring trade-evolving joy to others, and I only got two trades where I felt I got the worse deal. The best ones were got a modest adaptability 4IV Japanese Eevee and two Rotoms (one Japanese). It's far too tempting to try to make shiny babies from these. Wonder trade is living up to its name today. Edit: I hope those guy trading me their Level 3 stuff enjoy their Level 58 Gengars that wont listen to them for about 35 hours  Edit2: Someone just traded me a level 35 Dragalge, how does that work since it evolves at 48? pik_d fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Nov 16, 2013 |
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Nov 16, 2013 03:40
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Ignite Memories posted:Welp, I started breeding. Why are you breeding Duckletts??
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Nov 16, 2013 03:41
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pik_d posted:Edit2: Someone just traded me a level 35 Dragalge, how does that work since it evolves at 48? They can be fished up at level 35.
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LAY-ZX posted:They can be fished up at level 35. Ah, I didn't really do much fishing so that makes sense.
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Nov 16, 2013 03:50
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MinionOfCthulhu posted:Why are you breeding Duckletts?? Not the poster, but Defog on Crobat is really nice.
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Nov 16, 2013 03:54
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MinionOfCthulhu posted:Why are you breeding Duckletts?? I like how this is question you ask and not "why the gently caress are you going all the way to Lumiose?"
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Nov 16, 2013 03:59
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MinionOfCthulhu posted:Why are you breeding Duckletts?? I have a chip on my shoulder about Farfetch'd because he was my favorite as a kid and I couldn't name it what I wanted, and I STILL CANT NAME IT WHAT I WANT. So now I am gonna make a really great loving leek duck and I'm going to name him Davos 
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Nov 16, 2013 03:59
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LeafyOrb posted:I like how this is question you ask and not "why the gently caress are you going all the way to Lumiose?" You can go to the area around the tower and just jam a dime or something under the circle pad so you just constantly move in circles until your eggs hatch. Some people like to do it because I guess pushing left and right is hard.
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LAY-ZX posted:You can go to the area around the tower and just jam a dime or something under the circle pad so you just constantly move in circles until your eggs hatch. Some people like to do it because I guess pushing left and right is hard. You still have to pay attention though right? Since the hatching itself will stop you
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LeafyOrb posted:I like how this is question you ask and not "why the gently caress are you going all the way to Lumiose?" 
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Nov 16, 2013 04:06
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Just bred my first 6IV 'mon - an Adamant, Anticipation Eevee! Even if it won't make the best battler at least it'll prove good breeding stock now!
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Nov 16, 2013 04:12
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Balon posted:Just bred my first 6IV 'mon - an Adamant, Anticipation Eevee! Even if it won't make the best battler at least it'll prove good breeding stock now! Adamant? Perfect for a Flareon! 
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Ignite Memories posted:I have a chip on my shoulder about Farfetch'd because he was my favorite as a kid and I couldn't name it what I wanted, and I STILL CANT NAME IT WHAT I WANT. Farfetch'd isn't a duck. IT'S A SAMURAI WATERFOWL!
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Nov 16, 2013 04:22
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Pyroi posted:Farfetch'd isn't a duck. No it's a duck that is carrying its own seasoning, with which it then hits people in an attempt to accelerate inevitability.
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Nov 16, 2013 04:25
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Immer posted:Not the poster, but Defog on Crobat is really nice. Yeah, Crobat is the only good pokemon with Defog until Pokebank. Scizor (probably) still gets it as an Egg Move but nothing it can breed with learns it naturally.
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Ignite Memories posted:I have a chip on my shoulder about Farfetch'd because he was my favorite as a kid and I couldn't name it what I wanted, and I STILL CANT NAME IT WHAT I WANT. FYI you can catch (and name) wild Farfetch'd in, like, the first route. Not that I disapprove of your quest for the perfect Farfetch'd. You'll show 'em, Davos, you'll show 'em all.
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I never really appreciated how cute torchic is Part of me wants to try breeding but after three generations of checking IV's, wasting hours breeding, and trying to get the pokemon I want, I am just completely drained. 
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Stalgren posted:Part of me wants to try breeding but after three generations of checking IV's, wasting hours breeding, and trying to get the pokemon I want, I am just completely drained. whatever, quitter.  Honedge (F) - Quiet, 31\13\31\31\31\0
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LeafyOrb posted:I like how this is question you ask and not "why the gently caress are you going all the way to Lumiose?" You can Fly to Lumiose. 
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