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Well I wish the stars would align and we'd get the type of titles they use to release on laserdisc.
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SALT CURES HAM posted:It's turning the CC from a "this movie rules" badge to a "hipsters like this movie" badge, and I'm not comfortable with it. If you're feeling uncomfortable you can not buy those movies.
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Nov 17, 2013 01:36
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SALT CURES HAM posted:You know, I really hate how Criterion has started jumping on whatever indie flavor-of-the-month is hot at any given moment. Antichrist, Tiny Furniture, Fantastic Mr. Fox/Moonrise Kingdom, and Blue is the Warmest Color aren't necessarily bad movies (though Tiny Furniture totally is, gently caress that movie) but it seems to defeat what I thought was the purpose of the CC. The first clause of their mission statement is: "Since 1984, the Criterion Collection, a continuing series of important classic and contemporary films"
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Nov 17, 2013 01:36
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SALT CURES HAM posted:You know, I really hate how Criterion has started jumping on whatever indie flavor-of-the-month is hot at any given moment. Antichrist, Tiny Furniture, Fantastic Mr. Fox/Moonrise Kingdom, and Blue is the Warmest Color aren't necessarily bad movies (though Tiny Furniture totally is, gently caress that movie) but it seems to defeat what I thought was the purpose of the CC. Well, they are also a business, and why wouldn't they release these movies in a timely manner? It's a great way for them to make money and to get the brand out there. And let's face it, the Fantastic Mr. Fox is not a surprise, since they've handled most of the other Wes Anderson releases. I mean, they are still releasing Harold Lloyd and Kurosawa films, so it's not like they are just becoming hipster central. But I'll grant you that Tiny Furniture was unwatchably bad.
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Nov 17, 2013 01:45
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Cemetry Gator posted:But I'll grant you that Tiny Furniture was unwatchably bad. Some people like it. 
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Nov 17, 2013 01:48
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All the new(er) films help pay the bills. Criterion's best selling release of all time is Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. Obviously, art house staples like The 400 Blows and Breathless will always sell well. But I don't think they're setting records with stuff like the Von Sternberg silents or Jean Painleve shorts. Apparently they only sold a few hundred Andrei Rubelov laserdiscs. Same reason why we got stuff like Armageddon and The Rock when Disney was still releasing bare-bones DVDs.
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Nov 17, 2013 02:08
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SALT CURES HAM posted:You know, I really hate how Criterion has started jumping on whatever indie flavor-of-the-month is hot at any given moment. Antichrist, Tiny Furniture, Fantastic Mr. Fox/Moonrise Kingdom, and Blue is the Warmest Color aren't necessarily bad movies (though Tiny Furniture totally is, gently caress that movie) but it seems to defeat what I thought was the purpose of the CC. (This is nitpicking, but Moonrise Kingdom isn't a Criterion release. Yet.)
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Nov 17, 2013 02:52
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Criterion releases awesome Italian movies and I love them for it. Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion alone earns them a million love points from me.
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Nov 17, 2013 02:56
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I think their output recently has been pretty good, though I'd give anything for some Peter Greenaway.
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Nov 17, 2013 03:54
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SALT CURES HAM posted:You know, I really hate how Criterion has started jumping on whatever indie flavor-of-the-month is hot at any given moment. Antichrist, Tiny Furniture, Fantastic Mr. Fox/Moonrise Kingdom, and Blue is the Warmest Color aren't necessarily bad movies (though Tiny Furniture totally is, gently caress that movie) but it seems to defeat what I thought was the purpose of the CC. Criterion definitely isn't a "this movie rules" badge. Night Train to Munich, Howard's End and The King of Marvin Gardens are all kind of mediocre, and I'm just naming movies that I own. Criterion will never be only the good movies but releasing popular titles helps them get the money to release stuff that doesn't sell as well. Cloks fucked around with this message at 07:57 on Nov 17, 2013 |
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Nov 17, 2013 04:01
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Also hipsters love plenty of Criterion's more "classic" fare, not just the Tiny Furniture stuff.
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Nov 17, 2013 04:04
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Magic Hate Ball posted:I think their output recently has been pretty good, though I'd give anything for some Peter Greenaway. It could happen since several are with Film Four. The Cook... is Miramax, but Lionsgate has oddly not released it yet.
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Nov 17, 2013 04:10
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SALT CURES HAM posted:You know, I really hate how Criterion has started jumping on whatever indie flavor-of-the-month is hot at any given moment. Antichrist, Tiny Furniture, Fantastic Mr. Fox/Moonrise Kingdom, and Blue is the Warmest Color aren't necessarily bad movies (though Tiny Furniture totally is, gently caress that movie) but it seems to defeat what I thought was the purpose of the CC. Who cares? They are a home video company, not some objective award for excellence. Sorry it hurts your Brand Affinity.
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Nov 17, 2013 07:22
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I'm still mad at them for not doing a bluray rerelease of The Bad Sleep Well!
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Nov 17, 2013 07:33
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SALT CURES HAM posted:You know, I really hate how Criterion has started jumping on whatever indie flavor-of-the-month is hot at any given moment. Antichrist, Tiny Furniture, Fantastic Mr. Fox/Moonrise Kingdom, and Blue is the Warmest Color aren't necessarily bad movies (though Tiny Furniture totally is, gently caress that movie) but it seems to defeat what I thought was the purpose of the CC. Criterion has already released Kechiche's The Secret of the Grain, so it's not exactly a jumping-on-the-hipster-bandwagon move for them to release Blue is the Warmest Color. And they had released Lars Von Trier and Wes Anderson films before too. So really the example you cite that holds any water is Tiny Furniture.
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Nov 17, 2013 08:23
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And again, that isn't a universally loathed movie by any means.
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Nov 17, 2013 08:38
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I liked Tiny Furniture a lot.  However, I am a big fan of mumblecore and even caught Funny Ha Ha in its original theatrical run.
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I thought Tiny Furniture was pretty decent, but not great. But I do think it was "important" in its portrayal of contemporary emerging adults, in being an accessible example of an alienating genre, and most importantly in being the precursor to the absolute loving cultural shitstorm that is Girls. Its kind of like the Russian Revolution of 1905 vs. the Revolutions of 1917.
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Nov 17, 2013 09:18
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Ugggh, one more run... Not shown here: Band of Outsiders The 99 Reasons was kind of a neat little thing. I threw it and the Qatsi films on while playing some dancey music at my birthday party yesterday, it worked out great! MOD EDIT timg'd because HUGE. Somebody fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Nov 18, 2013 |
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Nov 17, 2013 13:38
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What's the 99 reasons thing? Is it a DVD or Bluray of a bunch of their Three Reasons videos?
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Hewlett posted:What's the 99 reasons thing? Is it a DVD or Bluray of a bunch of their Three Reasons videos? Jay Z's diss track on the Criterion Collection
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Nov 17, 2013 16:47
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I Before E posted:Jay Z's diss track on the Criterion Collection He's got 99 problems but Lubitsch ain't one?
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Nov 17, 2013 16:52
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Cloks posted:Criterion definitely isn't a "this movie rules" badge. Night Train to Munich, Howard's End and The King of Marvin Gardens are all kind of mediocre, and I'm just naming movies that I own. Criterion will never be only the good movies but releasing popular titles helps them get the money to release stuff that doesn't sell as well. Oh come now, The King of Marvin Gardens is pretty good. It's not great but it's a far sight better than Drive, He Said or A Safe Place, both of which are in the same box set. Although worst Criterion film I've seen is hands down Border Radio. Sloppy, boring, doesn't know how to end. Thankfully I only grabbed it from the library and didn't put money down on it.
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My least favorite Criterion that I've seen is still Alphaville, but I might be alone on that one. I like the other Godards I've seen but that one was just a chore to sit through.
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TrixRabbi posted:Oh come now, The King of Marvin Gardens is pretty good. It's not great but it's a far sight better than Drive, He Said or A Safe Place, both of which are in the same box set. I meant to put A Safe Place, whoops. Got the titles mixed up.
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Cloks posted:I meant to put A Safe Place, whoops. Got the titles mixed up. Ah. Because King of Marvin Gardens is pretty drat good, and has wonderful performances, especially Nicholson playing meek and introverted. I'd listen to his radio show. The only thing A Safe Place has going for it is Orson Welles telling zoo animals to disappear.
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Nov 17, 2013 17:48
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If we're counting Eclipse boxsets the worst I've seen are the Norman Mailer movies they released. Anyway if Criterion only released ~universally acclaimed~ movies we wouldn't get things like Equinox so gently caress that.
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Nov 17, 2013 21:41
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Hewlett posted:What's the 99 reasons thing? Is it a DVD or Bluray of a bunch of their Three Reasons videos? Yep, 33 Reasons videos on DVD. My B&N was handing them out to people who were buying from the sale.
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Momotaros posted:Yep, 33 Reasons videos on DVD. My B&N was handing them out to people who were buying from the sale. Oh that's friggin cool. Wish my B&N did that (then again, haven't bought from this sale yet).
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I really like The King of Marvin Gardens. Bruce Dern is one of my favorite lesser famous actors.
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I like old Sci-Fi films and am wondering if there are any recommendations to grab one on Bluray during this sale. I've already got Solaris, World on a Wire, and Brazil.
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Asnorban posted:I like old Sci-Fi films and am wondering if there are any recommendations to grab one on Bluray during this sale. I've already got Solaris, World on a Wire, and Brazil. Things to Come, Repo Man and Robinson Crusoe on Mars are good picks.
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Nov 18, 2013 19:04
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The Phantom Carriage blu-ray is $17.89 on Amazon for another 2 hours. http://www.amazon.com/Phantom-Carriage-Criterion-Collection-Blu-ray/dp/B0056ANHSQ
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I've seen First Man into Space from the Monsters and Madmen set which I thought was pretty good, but I can't speak for the others. Also, The Blob is pretty good and that's on Blu. So is Fiend without a Face, but that is still only on DVD.
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Hector Beerlioz posted:I've seen First Man into Space from the Monsters and Madmen set which I thought was pretty good, but I can't speak for the others. Also, The Blob is pretty good and that's on Blu. So is Fiend without a Face, but that is still only on DVD. The Atomic Submarine is kind of dull for the first 45 minutes or so until it suddenly becomes astounding. Haven't seen the other two.
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I just blind-bought Something Wild after watching the trailer and reading about the abrupt change of tone when Ray Liotta shows up. I'm going to love this movie even if it's not any good. Can't wait to watch it tomorrow.
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Mercaptopropyl posted:I just blind-bought Something Wild after watching the trailer and reading about the abrupt change of tone when Ray Liotta shows up. I'm going to love this movie even if it's not any good. Can't wait to watch it tomorrow. It's a hell of a lot of fun; I like it. It's bright and bold and very 90s.
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mod sassinator posted:I liked Tiny Furniture a lot. Does it count as mumble core? I've heard she gets pissed when people call her work that.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Does it count as mumble core? I've heard she gets pissed when people call her work that. I don't think of it as mumblecore…but also nobody likes being called mumblecore…and also she's the type to get pissed at what she sees as misapprehensions of her work.
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90's grunge bands hated being called "grunge" too. "Don't label me, man!"
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