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StumblyWumbly posted:Marvel movies also take on comic writers as script advisors. I think the first Spider-Man did add well but I don't know if Nolan did for Batman. Green Lantern did have Johns advising... Bendis had a great story about advising on the first Spider-man movie, it was printed in one of the USM issues. I can't do it justice, but anyone who's read it knows what I'm talking about.
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Dec 7, 2013 18:03
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StumblyWumbly posted:Marvel movies also take on comic writers as script advisors. I think the first Spider-Man did add well but I don't know if Nolan did for Batman. Green Lantern did have Johns advising... According to Fraction and others the advising that they do is sit in a room for a day and just say ideas at producers and that's pretty much it. Pretty much every comic book film does it to say they are staying "true to the source material".
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Dec 7, 2013 18:06
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Waterhaul posted:According to Fraction and others the advising that they do is sit in a room for a day and just say ideas at producers and that's pretty much it. Pretty much every comic book film does it to say they are staying "true to the source material". Oh. I noticed that writers stopped bragging about doing it so I assumed they'd stopped, maybe it just isn't worth bragging about
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Dec 7, 2013 19:47
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I listened to a movie review podcast recently guest featuring Ed Brubaker, and he just very briefly mentioned at the end in response to a question that Winter Soldier was inspired by elements from his run on Captain America. Which surprised me because he...invented the Winter Soldier character. I infer he wasn't really involved in the production.
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Dec 7, 2013 20:46
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Kellsterik posted:I listened to a movie review podcast recently guest featuring Ed Brubaker, and he just very briefly mentioned at the end in response to a question that Winter Soldier was inspired by elements from his run on Captain America. Which surprised me because he...invented the Winter Soldier character. I infer he wasn't really involved in the production. No Winter Soldier was create by Simon and Kirby. He revamped him, and elements of that are going to be in the movie.
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Dec 7, 2013 20:48
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bobkatt013 posted:No Winter Soldier was create by Simon and Kirby. He revamped him, and elements of that are going to be in the movie. Do you mean they created Bucky or is there more to it?
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Dec 7, 2013 21:45
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StumblyWumbly posted:Do you mean they created Bucky or is there more to it? Yeah they created Bucky. Brubaker revamped him and they are using elements of that in the movie.
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Dec 7, 2013 21:50
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Kellsterik posted:I listened to a movie review podcast recently guest featuring Ed Brubaker, and he just very briefly mentioned at the end in response to a question that Winter Soldier was inspired by elements from his run on Captain America. Which surprised me because he...invented the Winter Soldier character. I infer he wasn't really involved in the production. IIRC he first found out about it when Marvel publicly announced the title.
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Dec 7, 2013 21:52
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Granted, Brubaker's take on Bucky Barnes was a complete retcon of the character. It turned out well, but it'll probably owe a lot more to the Brubaker take than Kirby and Simon's kid sidekick.
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Dec 7, 2013 21:54
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Alien Rope Burn posted:Granted, Brubaker's take on Bucky Barnes was a complete retcon of the character. It turned out well, but it'll probably owe a lot more to the Brubaker take than Kirby and Simon's kid sidekick. Pretty much the only thing that has remained of the original Bucky was his name.
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Dec 7, 2013 21:58
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Some writers actually get credits in the movies. Chris Yost got a screenwriting credit for Thor 2, for example. But I imagine some credit beyond "executive producer" or "inspired by" is fairly rare. And hell, even if they're involved, it doesn't always prevent it from sucking. USM cartoon loving sucks and Bendis himself works on it.
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Dec 7, 2013 22:03
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notthegoatseguy posted:Some writers actually get credits in the movies. Chris Yost got a screenwriting credit for Thor 2, for example. Yost is a different case because he's there as a screenplay writer not a Marvel comics writer.
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Dec 7, 2013 22:09
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ufarn posted:This sounds dreadful: It sounds like the show wasn't even originally going to be set in Gotham, and they just reworked it to be so.
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Dec 7, 2013 23:16
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I wonder if Arrow will end up being the new model because goddamn is it just loving killing it.
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LorneReams posted:I wonder if Arrow will end up being the new model because goddamn is it just loving killing it. If that means people will stop trying to make the next Smallville, I'm all for it.
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Dec 13, 2013 07:24
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I'm wondering if I came off with the wrong impression on Arrow, because from the six or so episodes I saw of season one, it just looked like it was trying really hard to be Batman Who Kills People: The Series, and that turned me off on it. There's just so many of Wayne's B-listers that you can throw into a show not set in Gotham before it starts feeling weird to me. I know that they took care of him going for the kill shot in most of his episodes in season two, and I appreciate that. (And I also appreciate that they aren't calling him the Hood anymore, which... Oh hell, I don't know why they did that. That's a lot more ridiculous than just going with Green Arrow off the bat.) It takes care of the try-hard edgy feeling he had while I was watching. Circutron fucked around with this message at 07:59 on Dec 13, 2013 |
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Dec 13, 2013 07:56
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Circutron posted:I'm wondering if I came off with the wrong impression on Arrow, because from the six or so episodes I saw of season one, it just looked like it was trying really hard to be Batman Who Kills People: The Series, and that turned me off on it. There's just so many of Wayne's B-listers that you can throw into a show not set in Gotham before it starts feeling weird to me. I gave up about halfway through the first season, then, on recommendations from this thread and TVIV, I gave it another shot... I got like one more episode in. I can't decide if it's just not my cup of tea, or if I should just skip the first season, because it is DULL.
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Dec 13, 2013 14:47
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Lets just run down a list of things that happened in just this week's episode: Slade Wilson was revealed to be alive (missing an eye) and was the mastermind behind Brother Blood Prof Ivo forced Oliver to chose between Sara Lance and Shado saying that he would kill one of them. Oliver choses Sara and Ivo makes good on his threat, shooting Shado in the head Roy Harper is injected with "mirakuru" which gives those that survive the treatment super strength and makes them extremely hard to injure Solomon Grundy injured Officer Lance and killed a whole bunch of cops The Arrow battles and defeats Solomon Grundy Barry Allen gives Oliver a proper mask Barry Allen is struck by lightning caused from the exploding particle accelerator
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Dec 13, 2013 16:04
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While I wouldn't necessarily agree whit you on the dullness, I guess you can definitely say that season two upped the ante and streamlined the story, meaning that it became a lot less soap opera like and a lot more superhero show. They move at an incredible pace and generally resolve plot points two episodes after they been introduced to move along with the story. Seriously, if you don't mind spoiler, just watch the mid season final that just aired.
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e X posted:the mid season final What? Is this a thing?
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Dec 13, 2013 16:43
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Lurdiak posted:What? Is this a thing? Yeah, a lot of shows now try to air as many episodes they can in a row and have a mini-finale for the holiday hiatus.
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Dec 13, 2013 16:45
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Arrow is dumber than poo poo but it is really enjoyable poo poo if you Band of Bros trapped on plot device island, or the adventures of bad idea vs bad idea. The whole thing behind season 1 is a conspiracy to build an earthquake machine to kill the poor. If you aren't interested in that you aren't interested in Arrow. Still disappointed by the lack of socialist or anti-fascist rhetoric.
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Dec 13, 2013 17:02
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Lurdiak posted:What? Is this a thing? I don't live in the US, so all its conventions and practices are kind of alien to me, but everybody else called it that and I needed a term for "last episode before holiday season break". No idea if it is an actual concept people use, but several series that wont air between now and the new year had some kind of mini climax in its story arc, or at least a pretty major cliffhanger. And yeah, Arrow in its second season basically decided to go full comic book.
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Dec 13, 2013 17:06
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Refresh my memory: isn't there also a libertarian version of Green Arrow? Maybe Frank Miller's?
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Dec 13, 2013 17:37
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The conservative hero who normally oppose him in terms of political views is Hawk Man, though I have no idea which version, but I think it's the alien police officer. And even he is generally portrait as simply a political hardliner with old school rightwing opinions.
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StumblyWumbly posted:The whole thing behind season 1 is a conspiracy to build an earthquake machine to kill the poor. The greatest thing about that is it succeeds. Amazingly the super smart insane rich guy had a back up for his earthquake machine in case things went wrong, the heroes don't stop him, and hundreds of poor people die. It's a ballsy show.
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ufarn posted:Refresh my memory: isn't there also a libertarian version of Green Arrow? Maybe Frank Miller's? Frank Miller's Green Arrow was more of an anarchist, in a world that had clearly crept into a very Big Brother-type state of near-fascism. That's a far cry from libertarianism or even anarcho-capitalism. e X posted:The conservative hero who normally oppose him in terms of political views is Hawk Man, though I have no idea which version, but I think it's the alien police officer. And even he is generally portrait as simply a political hardliner with old school rightwing opinions. Didn't Green Arrow and Green Lantern used to basically be a buddy cop book starring a conservative military man and a liberal rebel?
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Dec 13, 2013 18:21
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Pretty sure that were Green Lantern and Green Arrow during the Bronze Age.
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I won't be completely happy with Arrow, no matter how good it's gotten, until Ollie sells the company and opens up a flower shop. I'd also like him to grow an actual drat beard, and I say this even realizing how stupid that would be for someone trying to hide their identity with a mask.
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Dec 13, 2013 19:56
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Lager posted:I won't be completely happy with Arrow, no matter how good it's gotten, until Ollie sells the company and opens up a flower shop. Fake beard he could velcro to his face. There you go. Perfect disguise.
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Circutron posted:Fake beard he could velcro to his face. There you go. Perfect disguise. So you want this? 
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Dec 13, 2013 20:11
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bobkatt013 posted:So you want this? Yes, that looks about right. I'll take it.
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Dec 13, 2013 20:57
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Arrow  I know it's been a waiting game since episode 1 for that villain reveal but it was still so good.
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Dec 13, 2013 21:17
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The annoying thing about the whole Flash stuff is that Arrow is kind of a victim of its own success because they were originally going to have Barry back later in the season to give him a backdoor pilot to his own show but CW executives loved what they saw of these two episodes and decided to give the show a proper pilot. Unfortunately this means we won't see Barry back as the Flash any time soon.
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Dec 13, 2013 21:35
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muscles like this? posted:The annoying thing about the whole Flash stuff is that Arrow is kind of a victim of its own success because they were originally going to have Barry back later in the season to give him a backdoor pilot to his own show but CW executives loved what they saw of these two episodes and decided to give the show a proper pilot. Unfortunately this means we won't see Barry back as the Flash any time soon. I only saw his first episode, but they did a pretty good job with Barry Allen. I especially like his Monster Hunter thing.
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Dec 13, 2013 22:33
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bobkatt013 posted:So you want this? I want exactly that.
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Dec 14, 2013 00:42
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I appreciate SHIELD has been on and off TV recently (which is really annoying as a Brit, I'm fairly used to a show being on every week), but there doesn't seem to be much discussion about last week's episode. It's finally tying plot threads together and we had some actual powered super-soldiers fighting it out. Admittedly they all had the same powerset, but beggars can't be choosers. I didn't actually see the twist coming either, which for a series that has been fairly formulaic in its plot structures and season structure, was a pleasant surprise. It wasn't a HOLEY MOLEY twist, but it was a nice enough one.
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I kinda gave up on Shield after episode 3 but I'll probably go crawling back once I've run out of poo poo to watch(Misfits just ended forever/til there's an American version) Speaking of which... Error 404 posted:the actor who plays Rudy is basically perfect, hell, Rudy is basically how I always imagined Cass to be. Which part of the internet do I report to in order to start up this campaign? Cause let me tell you, I've never been more emotionally invested in a bullshit fan casting than this right here. I've been championing Joseph Gilgun for Cassidy since I read Preacher 2 years ago(I know I know) and I desperately need to express to the people involved with the pilot what a great idea it is. Twitter maybe? I've never been.
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Can someone spoil the AoS twist for me? I stopped watching a few weeks ago.
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