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Seedge
Jun 15, 2009
Hey, buddy. :glomp:



Call Me Cismale posted:

I think the "warning" only appears if your mate is currently being suppressed from being shot at, not if theres enemies around.

This is correct. You do get spawn protection for one second, but that is because your body spawns while you have the black screen between pressing deploy and getting control.


FateoMcSkippy posted:

If someone tries to knife you a second after you spawn it should go into counter-knife mode, regardless of the direction the guy knifes you from.

This is the second worst idea ever, right after counter hugs.

That reminds me though, Beez, the Bf4stats page is tracking dogtags taken properly again...

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TotalHell
Feb 22, 2005

Roman Reigns fights CM Punk in fantasy warld. Lotsa violins, so littl kids cant red it.


When DICE fixes one thing they break another. Patch came out for the Commander App and now it runs on my tablet! Had a blast playing that last night.

But I also played Paracel Storm Conquest (a great map, btw) and though I did not crash, I had the SEVERE rubberbanding effect that others have mentioned in this thread the entire round. It was almost unplayable.

Still got 4th on the winning team though. :smuggo:

a foolish pianist
May 6, 2007

(bi)cyclic mutation

Holy crap air superiority is a terrible game mode. Four minutes of game time, with most people going 0-2-ish. It's about equal amounts of time in the game and in the scoreboard/loading screens

DiverTwig
Jul 23, 2003
I ignore all NWS Tags, my Boss's like porn
Found another thing that is stupid as hell. Apparently the game doesn't track your spot assists. I've been spotting poo poo with the MAV constantly, but nowhere on battlelog or on the bf4stats does it show any spot assists. It actually shows 0 spot assists on bf4stats. Completely ignoring my 156 spotting ribbons, which means I have at least 624 spot assists. Minor annoyance really, but I keep checking my SAM and they were lower than I thought they should be, now I know why at least. Ah well, I'll keep spotting for y'all. Oh, and if we're in a game together, if you could be so kind as to throw down an ammo pack near me (but not right next to me, sometimes I exit the MAV and don't want to lose it) that'd be awesome :D

Beelzebozo
Nov 6, 2002

I don’t mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel. But I am, so that’s how it comes out.

DiverTwig posted:

Found another thing that is stupid as hell. Apparently the game doesn't track your spot assists. I've been spotting poo poo with the MAV constantly, but nowhere on battlelog or on the bf4stats does it show any spot assists. It actually shows 0 spot assists on bf4stats. Completely ignoring my 156 spotting ribbons, which means I have at least 624 spot assists. Minor annoyance really, but I keep checking my SAM and they were lower than I thought they should be, now I know why at least. Ah well, I'll keep spotting for y'all. Oh, and if we're in a game together, if you could be so kind as to throw down an ammo pack near me (but not right next to me, sometimes I exit the MAV and don't want to lose it) that'd be awesome :D

You're right. This appeared to be hosed on the EA master stats server. I'll raise the issue on the developer forum. Thanks for reporting. I hope they are tracking that and just failing to surface it correctly so you don't lose your history.

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Beelzebozo
Nov 6, 2002

I don’t mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel. But I am, so that’s how it comes out.

Seedge posted:

That reminds me though, Beez, the Bf4stats page is tracking dogtags taken properly again...

Coolness, Park. Last time this event preceded the API dogtag tracking by about two weeks. So hopefully in two weeks' time I'll have the hug leaderboard back on its feet.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

They really need to add Youtube support already. I had some amazing jihad kills last night and wish I could share them without posting them to facebook publicly.

On the Altai Mountains or whatever, they had a support chopper that landed at C. I was on the back of a jihad dirt bike driven by my friend. They were repairing the chopper while capping. After they capped, everyone jumped back in and started taking off. I jumped off the back of the bike probably 50 feet from the chopper and my friend drove right under it. I detonated the C4 and my screen lights up with a multikill, chopper pieces flying everywhere, and my friend flying 3 miles ahead and landing in the mountains somehow.

waah
Jun 20, 2011

Better stay in line when
You see a Pavel like me shinin

Is there anyway to force a new squad so that you can be squad leader? I had gamedotdll playing with me a couple games this morning before I went in to work, and even though I didn't have my mic plugged in, we got a ton of points and ace squad simply because I knew how to give squad orders early and often.

I really hate being stuck in a squad where the squad leader won't do anything, won't listen and just gives up free points. Unlocking stuff is tedious enough as is.

Lazyfire
Feb 4, 2006

God saves. Satan Invests

waah posted:

Is there anyway to force a new squad so that you can be squad leader? I had gamedotdll playing with me a couple games this morning before I went in to work, and even though I didn't have my mic plugged in, we got a ton of points and ace squad simply because I knew how to give squad orders early and often.

I really hate being stuck in a squad where the squad leader won't do anything, won't listen and just gives up free points. Unlocking stuff is tedious enough as is.

You should be able to to go team setup and there should be a "create new squad" option.

waah
Jun 20, 2011

Better stay in line when
You see a Pavel like me shinin

I know I say this a lot, but seriously I have never seen that option on the PS4 team setup screen.

bringer
Oct 16, 2005

I'm out there Jerry and I'm LOVING EVERY MINUTE OF IT
Highlight your squad, hit X (PS4) to leave squad. Hit triangle to start a new one once squad-less.

Fateo McMurray
Mar 22, 2003

Finally got that 3rd jet ribbon. Goddamn. Now to never fly another plane again.

Blue Raider
Sep 2, 2006

Sorry if this has been answered already, but did anybody else have trouble connecting last night? It's always a bit spotty for me, but last night was purely inoperable. Frustrating stuff, that.

Bruc
May 30, 2006
Playing with 3 other people we could not get in games using the quick match at all, it would just hang on a black screen. We were able to get in by using the server browser though, but we also ended up crashing a ton more, like every 2ish games instead of every 4 or 5 on average and everyone would crash instead of 1 or 2 people at a time.

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.

waah posted:

I know I say this a lot, but seriously I have never seen that option on the PS4 team setup screen.

Yeah you gotta leave before you can join. :)

The Dark Souls of Posters
Nov 4, 2011

Just Post, Kupo

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

They really need to add Youtube support already. I had some amazing jihad kills last night and wish I could share them without posting them to facebook publicly.

You can set it to post only to you, then pull it from facebook using a downloader and upload to Youtube. A bit roundabout, but gets the job done.

dog nougat
Apr 8, 2009
Probably going to be playing a bunch of this tonight on PS4 in about 4-5 hours.

Add me if you don't have me already: dog_nougat

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.

Awesome Animals posted:

You can set it to post only to you, then pull it from facebook using a downloader and upload to Youtube. A bit roundabout, but gets the job done.

Every method of that that *I* have tried ignores the HD option on FB and the quality is usually pretty poor from the source to begin with, so it isn't very optimal.

Bruc
May 30, 2006
People get so mad at you for using AA in this game, it's pretty hilarious. I gently caress around with putting SLAMs on boats/jetskis and ramming people constantly on Paracel Storm and the only messages I get from people are people laughing (and then generally trying it themselves) even if I do it all round. If I hop in a mobile AA for a round of Golmud and throw down that support item that blows up rockets, I am basically guaranteed to get an angry message from a Skygod calling me an unskilled AA noob, never mind the fact that 95% of my kills are with infantry. I do agree active radar missiles are overpowered right now (and I actually feel somewhat bad for enemy helos because there isn't really much they can do to not die) but it's funny how mad Jet Pilots get at not being invincible for once.

Beelzebozo
Nov 6, 2002

I don’t mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel. But I am, so that’s how it comes out.

Bruc posted:

it's funny how mad Jet Pilots get at not being invincible for once.

Wait, so you're telling me that Someguy is actually a representative sample? :raise:

Lazyfire
Feb 4, 2006

God saves. Satan Invests

Beelzebozo posted:

Wait, so you're telling me that Someguy is actually a representative sample? :raise:

The opinions on the game are basically this:

Infantry players: Hooray, we are no longer at the mercy of invincible sky gods any time there is a helicopter on the map!

Jet pilots Helicopters have a hard time shooting us down now, but the maps are pretty small and damage is low. I can kill stuff, but it is more difficult.

Tank/armor drivers: I'm still one of the most important and powerful things in the game, but I need to be more cautious and have a gunner to keep people from hitting me with 50 LAWs at once.

Helicopter Pilots: FUUUUCCCCKKIIIINGG DICE! HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO GO 50-2 IF PEOPLE HAVE LOCK ON WEAPONS!?

It's not just Someguy, a lot of people are complaining about helis being poorly balanced or not strong enough. That hasn't stopped them from killing me on the regular so maybe they should get on the level of the guys shooting me.

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

I find the scout helos to be much better than the attack ones for some reason. Maybe it's just aiming the rocket pods, but it never feels like I can reliably hit anything more mobile than a stationary battle tank.


Also, after what attack helos did to me in Bad Company 2, I feel no regrets about hopping in an AA on say, Lancang Dam, perching just behind a low hill near the river, and annihilating every enemy chopper starting the moment they take off

The Dark Souls of Posters
Nov 4, 2011

Just Post, Kupo

Feenix posted:

Every method of that that *I* have tried ignores the HD option on FB and the quality is usually pretty poor from the source to begin with, so it isn't very optimal.

I mean, I wasn't trying to portray it as optimal, but it allows us to share cool moments. Optimal would be purchasing a capture device.

Ularg
Mar 2, 2010

Just tell me I'm exotic.

Requested_Username posted:

I find the scout helos to be much better than the attack ones for some reason. Maybe it's just aiming the rocket pods, but it never feels like I can reliably hit anything more mobile than a stationary battle tank.


Also, after what attack helos did to me in Bad Company 2, I feel no regrets about hopping in an AA on say, Lancang Dam, perching just behind a low hill near the river, and annihilating every enemy chopper starting the moment they take off

It sucks because I have the most fun in Attack Helos acting as a pure anti-armor role but everyone is a pure anti-me role. :(

That said jets and scout helos can go die.

Chekans 3 16
Jan 2, 2012

No Resetti.
No Continues.



Grimey Drawer
I think attack helicopters definitely need a boost somehow, either with a shorter counter-measure timer or bringing back gunner flares. Scout helicopters, while loving annoying at times, are fine when someone is repairing you, and are bearable if someone locks you down and you're flying engineer if you repair yourself. It's annoying when one person decides to lock you down in your spawn, but I don't see DICE changing the mechanics that much.

stevey666
Feb 25, 2007
I really do miss the days of the BC2 death machine helicopters, in both murdering and being murdered by roles. Tagging a chopper was so drat satisfying

Kukash
Apr 22, 2010
I am horrible at shooting men in this game and I am horrible at flying in this game. What is the best way for me to get points/have fun? I am even horrible at assault because I usually die trying to revive teammates.

stevey666
Feb 25, 2007
Go Engineer, use carbines til you get the AKU-12 and stick with it and rocket launchers til you get the SRAW. Play with friends or try to find a decentish squad somewhere. Finally, think about your actions and feel free to hide around buildings and setting up ambushes instead of just running into death over and over.

Robot Randy
Dec 31, 2011

by Lowtax

Lazyfire posted:

The opinions on the game are basically this:

Infantry players: Hooray, we are no longer at the mercy of invincible sky gods any time there is a helicopter on the map!

Jet pilots Helicopters have a hard time shooting us down now, but the maps are pretty small and damage is low. I can kill stuff, but it is more difficult.

Tank/armor drivers: I'm still one of the most important and powerful things in the game, but I need to be more cautious and have a gunner to keep people from hitting me with 50 LAWs at once.

Helicopter Pilots: FUUUUCCCCKKIIIINGG DICE! HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO GO 50-2 IF PEOPLE HAVE LOCK ON WEAPONS!?

It's not just Someguy, a lot of people are complaining about helis being poorly balanced or not strong enough. That hasn't stopped them from killing me on the regular so maybe they should get on the level of the guys shooting me.

someguy isnt truly mad until the p word starts being thrown about

Beelzebozo
Nov 6, 2002

I don’t mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel. But I am, so that’s how it comes out.

Robot Randy posted:

someguy isnt truly mad until the p word starts being thrown about

Priapism?

Someguy
Jul 15, 2001

by Lowtax
Relax scrubs, the champ is here.

Some (dumb) people like to throw around the 'waah u just want to be invinceable rite' trope, but the reality is that good players (specifically, good vehicle players) just want to know the amount of effort put into killing them with a weapon was on par with the amount of effort they put into the vehicle in the first place (which is basically how games have existed since inception, the whole concept of this easy mode poo poo in a competitive, supposedly skill based game is fairly recent). You get what you give, essentially. Obviously this kind of balance is so hilariously skewed right now, to the point of not even existing. Many proponents of lock-on weapons are capable of admitting as much. If you want more insight into what a jet pilot thinks, ask Nicko, he is the jet player.

The situation is this among good/vet/competitive players: Jet and helicopter pilots don't even bother to fly much at the moment, because the game is hilarious broken for those vehicles, many have gone back to BF3 or switched to other vehicles. Tankers probably wouldn't be playing either, if it wasn't for APS (which gets broken more each patch, it seems). Most are still pretty pissed because of poo poo like the LAW, and would rather see it removed. Infantry spergs love it (though most good ones admit air vehicles are bad poo poo), but it doesn't really matter because they'd be playing OP Locker all day anyways.

edit: i think he means premium? not sure, but randy's opinion doesn't matter until he starts working for his money, sorry lols

Someguy fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Dec 14, 2013

nummy
Feb 15, 2007
Eat a bowl of fuck.
Hey Beelz -

Any idea why my stats haven't updated in 10 days? Just curious - looks like most others are updating just fine...

Beelzebozo
Nov 6, 2002

I don’t mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel. But I am, so that’s how it comes out.

nummy posted:

Hey Beelz -

Any idea why my stats haven't updated in 10 days? Just curious - looks like most others are updating just fine...

Please see this post

nummy
Feb 15, 2007
Eat a bowl of fuck.
Ahhhh.. Thanks. Missed that one.

losonti tokash
Oct 29, 2007

I'm so pretty, oh so pretty.
Scout choppers are literally invincible and people think they're nerfed.

red19fire
May 26, 2010

SLAM's apparently don't do poo poo anymore. Hitting a tank with 3 got me a mobility kill :negative:

If you could design a helo that could take 4-5 stinger hits before exploding, you'd have a license to print money. If anything, stingers/IGLA/etc need to be buffed.

I'm even more frustrated than I was in BF3.

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

Dice please bring back the tracer dart. I want to light up wookies like christmas trees

CitizenKain
May 27, 2001

That was Gary Cooper, asshole.

Nap Ghost

losonti tokash posted:

Scout choppers are literally invincible and people think they're nerfed.

Yea, a good pilot with a repair monkey will just eat stingers all day long unless a AA vehicle is nearby. Even then it will probably run away. Stingers/IGLAs are just kinda useless against anything but an attack helo and dumb people.

I finally managed to get into a game where the enemy pilots weren't hounding me the entire match and scraped out my 3 jet ribbons. People seem to obligingly file into the gunship and will pretty much line up to be gunned down.

Requested_Username posted:

Dice please bring back the tracer dart. I want to light up wookies like christmas trees

They need that and the Charlie G back

CitizenKain fucked around with this message at 06:54 on Dec 14, 2013

Ularg
Mar 2, 2010

Just tell me I'm exotic.

Someguy posted:

Relax scrubs, the champ is here.

Some (dumb) people like to throw around the 'waah u just want to be invinceable rite' trope, but the reality is that good players (specifically, good vehicle players) just want to know the amount of effort put into killing them with a weapon was on par with the amount of effort they put into the vehicle in the first place (which is basically how games have existed since inception, the whole concept of this easy mode poo poo in a competitive, supposedly skill based game is fairly recent). You get what you give, essentially. Obviously this kind of balance is so hilariously skewed right now, to the point of not even existing. Many proponents of lock-on weapons are capable of admitting as much. If you want more insight into what a jet pilot thinks, ask Nicko, he is the jet player.

The situation is this among good/vet/competitive players: Jet and helicopter pilots don't even bother to fly much at the moment, because the game is hilarious broken for those vehicles, many have gone back to BF3 or switched to other vehicles. Tankers probably wouldn't be playing either, if it wasn't for APS (which gets broken more each patch, it seems). Most are still pretty pissed because of poo poo like the LAW, and would rather see it removed. Infantry spergs love it (though most good ones admit air vehicles are bad poo poo), but it doesn't really matter because they'd be playing OP Locker all day anyways.

edit: i think he means premium? not sure, but randy's opinion doesn't matter until he starts working for his money, sorry lols

No. It does not take a lot of skill to fly a helicopter well. Really, and I've put an hilarious amount of time in flying Helicopters. You learn not to faceplant as soon as you lift off and then you learn how to aim. You then go to use tricks that every single player that spends 2 matches in a helicopter will learn to do. Like faking flares.

By the way, gently caress all of these goddamn pubbies. First minute of the match and our AA gets stolen. Last match the other team managed to steal our boat from inside our deployment. This constantly happens every match where the otherteam is full of pro gods and mine is full of a bunch of cats.

I can't always play with goons because I can never use my speakers while using voice chat. So I'm stuck using some crappy earbuds for sound which annoys the hell out of my head after 5 minutes. Same with any headset.

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Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

I don't get the default layout of the helo sticks. Maybe it's just me, but it feels so much more intuitive to have the left stick make me go up, down, left, and right, while the right stick points me.

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