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Dilbert As gently caress posted:I DON'T WANT TO BE A DIRECTOR! OTHERS THINK I WOULD BE GREAT GIVEN HISTORY. Would I be good others have told me yes... However, I don't want to go there. I will be the contrarian and say that if you happen to be in a place where you are willing to take the job, then take it. You're at the age for trying new things and getting in over your head, and god knows you have more I.T. knowledge than I did. You also understand that it's going to be more management than anything else and sooner or later you'll need those skills. Do it. 
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Dick Trauma posted:I will be the contrarian and say that if you happen to be in a place where you are willing to take the job, then take it. You're at the age for trying new things and getting in over your head, and god knows you have more I.T. knowledge than I did. You also understand that it's going to be more management than anything else and sooner or later you'll need those skills. Seconding this, f'ing do it. Just find a way to keep fresh so you have an escape hatch...
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It's nice to know even pod people (i.e. Dick Trauma) can be disappointed sometimes.
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Dick Trauma posted:You also understand that it's going to be more management than anything else and sooner or later you'll need those skills.
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evol262 posted:Speak for yourself Even if you will never be a manager you will work with managers and the skills will be useful. Also they will frustrate you by illustrating just how lousy most managers are.
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Dec 16, 2013 16:10
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I would pay a million dollars to not have to listen to my boss and one of the helpdesk guys have one of their deep philosophical conversations about how much Windows 8 sucks because it doesn't have a start menu.
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Dec 16, 2013 16:18
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Bob Morales posted:I would pay a million dollars to not have to listen to my boss and one of the helpdesk guys have one of their deep philosophical conversations about how much Windows 8 sucks because it doesn't have a start menu. They speak the truth?
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We have a guy that works here, and two of his sons also work here. So we have: Jim Smith, Jim Smith II, and John Smith. Jim II just started working in the office so OMG THEY HAVE THE SAME NAME WHAT WILL WE DO FOR EMAIL This has been going on for about a week. Nobody can email the right Smith for some reason. One of the helpdesk guys explodes with "Why is everyone at this company brain-dead! You sent it to the wrong email address!!" Then my boss makes a loving Star Trek reference about the problem. Never loving fails.
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Dec 16, 2013 17:05
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My boss makes glengarry glen ross quotes all day, he even has AIDA on his white board. I tend to just leave the room when this poo poo starts.
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Dec 16, 2013 17:13
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Sepist posted:My boss makes glengarry glen ross quotes all day
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Dilbert as gently caress, take the job. They think you are right for it, so don't worry about being unqualified. They want to give you this opportunity. Just try it.
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Dick Trauma posted:Even if you will never be a manager you will work with managers and the skills will be useful. Also they will frustrate you by illustrating just how lousy most managers are. Been a manager. Hated it. Married to a director. She hates it. I could have learned the same skills by reading Hobbes 
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evol262 posted:Been a manager. Hated it. Married to a director. She hates it. Start with Peanuts and work your way up.
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Bob Morales posted:I would pay a million dollars to not have to listen to my boss and one of the helpdesk guys have one of their deep philosophical conversations about how much Windows 8 sucks because it doesn't have a start menu. This conversation happened at work and I showed them the "start menu" for Server 2012. This is the future. 
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Bob Morales posted:We have a guy that works here, and two of his sons also work here. So we have: When I first started, my dad worked as a manager in another department. So I got [first initial][middle initial][last name]@company.ca. Easy, no problems. Dad has since retired, we've updated the mail system, so now it's [first].[last]@company.ca. This is now a HUGE PROBLEM, as I am Dan Br.., and our Chief People Officer is also Dan Br.., and I get the most confidential, ridiculous emails from people all the time. People need to learn to look at auto complete.
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Out of a team of six network technicians (4) and engineers (2) three have "moved on" in the past month. One was the other CCNP level guy other than myself and two others were CCNA level techs. Yay DoD contracting! This is not going to be fun for awhile. Bringing on qualified, pre-cleared personnel is near impossible around here. Of course, the contractor made no effort at all to retain the guys or make a higher offer when two of them gave the contractor the opportunity to do so.
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GOOCHY posted:Out of a team of six network technicians (4) and engineers (2) three have "moved on" in the past month. One was the other CCNP level guy other than myself and two others were CCNA level techs. Yay DoD contracting! This is not going to be fun for awhile. Bringing on qualified, pre-cleared personnel is near impossible around here. Of course, the contractor made no effort at all to retain the guys or make a higher offer when two of them gave the contractor the opportunity to do so. A lot of that is dependent on the type of contract too; firm-fixed price vs cost-plus. Sometimes there honestly isn't any room.
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We just lost two members from my team and they aren't going to replace them either. Patch nights are going to go from mildly annoying to completely hosed up. On top of that they keep adding new areas of responsibility from other teams, and it's starting to get a little difficult to keep track of everything. Used to be we handled the physical servers and kept them updated, but now I'm also responsible for the virtual environment (new and existing), monitoring, vulnerability, and maintenance of both the legacy systems and the new network that's being pushed out. Both people leaving are doing so because the job just got so much larger without even a token raise. I've got two computers and four monitors on my desk now, and I feel like I need at least one more monitor just to be able to have sufficient real estate to watch everything I have to keep an eye on and still have a monitor for whatever else I'm working on. Good news is that if I manage to hold it together until April or May there's a very good possibility of a huge pay increase. If no increase comes, well at least I'll have enough relevant work experience to parlay it into a much better job somewhere else.
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H.R. Paperstacks posted:A lot of that is dependent on the type of contract too; firm-fixed price vs cost-plus. Sometimes there honestly isn't any room. There's very few cost-plus contracts anymore, anyway.
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psydude posted:There's very few cost-plus contracts anymore, anyway. Exactly and man do I miss them :/
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I've been wearing a blue polo for a year now and I am ready to start seriously applying again, so I spiffed up my resume and sent it to a senior manager at another company who will give a recommendation to a few other managers in the company. I'm hoping for a call this week or next. The entry level positions at that company pay more than twice what I'm making now, so I will actually have positive income after bills! Wish me luck, goons - I want to get going on a career, or at the very least not drown in debt with shrinking paychecks to try and survive on.
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Daylen Drazzi posted:Good news is that if I manage to hold it together until April or May there's a very good possibility of a huge pay increase. If no increase comes, well at least I'll have enough relevant work experience to parlay it into a much better job somewhere else.
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There was a company-wide email this morning from the company president outlining the new criteria for annual reviews. Most of it is the usual customer satisfaction, performance, and self-improvement stuff, with the exception of the following:quote:3. Marketing / Public Relations what. the. actual. gently caress. I have a feeling that this criteria won't make it to the next annual reviews in June intact.
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It appears you're expected to contribute to the circle-jerk of telling people how good what you've done or are about to do is going to be, instead of actually doing it.
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I asked my boss how I was supposed to put working on my Twitter account on my timesheet. He laughed and said not to worry about it, as he felt that it wasn't going to survive until it's required on reviews either. Hell, last round of reviews they said that we were moving to set job descriptions and salary ranges, but that didn't last 6 months before enough people complaining torpedoed that idea.
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There are a few companies I've dealt with where that sort of thing is the norm. Most everyone I've met at Rackspace won't shut up about how awesome it is to work there. They've got the "fanatical" part of "fanatical support" down. Also at ING Direct (now Capital One 360), employees used to describe things as being "orange" if they were good. That place was like a cult.
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HatfulOfHollow posted:There are a few companies I've dealt with where that sort of thing is the norm. Most everyone I've met at Rackspace won't shut up about how awesome it is to work there. They've got the "fanatical" part of "fanatical support" down. Also at ING Direct (now Capital One 360), employees used to describe things as being "orange" if they were good. That place was like a cult. Go work at Microsoft. It's like being in a vacuum where Apple and Google don't exist and its 2001.
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gently caress AT & T. Fiber line went down last night at main location, nothing wrong on our end so after taking pictures of switches att sends a guy out. I met the guy at 2am this morning and after 45 minutes of work he packs up and heads for the door without a word. I asked him if he got it fixed, he tells me no and mumbles something about the problem being upstream, and as he's leaving I asked him to call and update our network admin. "If you really need me to..." Of course I loving need you to, you didn't tell me poo poo! He's gone before I can ask him anything else. Woke up at 7 and checked the status of the ticket. Bad cable at their central office, should be back up by 8. Good! Not. 8 comes and goes, then they said it would be 10 before it's fixed. 10:30 now, still no resolution. In the meantime, email and internet is down company wide (40 locations), and those functions are pretty necessary for banking operations. So, in conclusion, gently caress AT&T.
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CloFan posted:In the meantime, email and internet is down company wide (40 locations), and those functions are pretty necessary for banking operations. Obviously they are not since the company is not not multihomed via different vendors with diverse paths. It's always great to see people scream how important internet access is when it is down, but when you put the quote in front of them for diversity and redundancy it suddenly becomes less important. "You want me to pay how much for something to sit there idle 'just incase'?! You are out of your mind!"
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H.R. Paperstacks posted:Obviously they are not since the company is not not multihomed via different vendors with diverse paths."
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Yeah, sorry. If you want your email to be highly available then you don't host it at the end of a single link.
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HatfulOfHollow posted:There are a few companies I've dealt with where that sort of thing is the norm. Most everyone I've met at Rackspace won't shut up about how awesome it is to work there. They've got the "fanatical" part of "fanatical support" down. Also at ING Direct (now Capital One 360), employees used to describe things as being "orange" if they were good. That place was like a cult. I'm in SA too, and I've met quite a few unhappy rackers. The young guys who think it's awesome to have a slide at work and shoot nerf guns at each other while making pretty good money for being in their 20's love that place. I've noticed a trend of the older folks with families and career goals aren't terribly happy with the place. Low pay compared to industry average and they've had a lot of growing pains when it comes to management. I'm past that poo poo which is why I haven't tried to work there. The first asshat that shoots me with a nerf gun is going to get a nerf dart shoved up their nose. I come to work to work and I leave at quitting time. This guy I know posted on his FB his first day of "Racker Training" that class was over at 5 but he didn't leave campus until after 9 because he was having so much fun. Yeah...no. I have kids and poo poo to get home to.
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We have two different 10 gig fiber circuits connecting to our data center, taking totally different paths. One day, one got taken out by some knucklehead vandalizing the circuit somewhere upstream. The other got taken out by a random sinkhole forming. At the same time. Sometimes the gods just REALLY want your poo poo to go offline  We're working on adding a third connection now.
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H.R. Paperstacks posted:Obviously they are not since the company is not not multihomed via different vendors with diverse paths. Exactly this. The company cut the other line so they wouldn't have to pay for them both, even when poo poo like this happens at least a couple times per year. Best part is we've got an external audit going on this week! Oh well, not much I can do about it until att fixes it besides bitch on the internet from my phone
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Docjowles posted:We have two different 10 gig fiber circuits connecting to our data center, taking totally different paths. One day, one got taken out by some knucklehead vandalizing the circuit somewhere upstream. The other got taken out by a random sinkhole forming. At the same time. If you add a 3rd connection, it will just be easier for the gods to sinkhole your server room, and lots of people in that building will die.
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Docjowles posted:We have two different 10 gig fiber circuits connecting to our data center, taking totally different paths. One day, one got taken out by some knucklehead vandalizing the circuit somewhere upstream. The other got taken out by a random sinkhole forming. At the same time. I think this is a sign that you should move. To a different country. Before the gods of that land smite you. 
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Today I had a network outage that was apparently in just the right place to enable a little Mac shop/OSX server to take network authority for 700 users. It filled my DHCP lease table with 65,000 bad addresses almost instantaneously. I never really considered how hard this could brick the internal DNS while it was getting resolved - It was faster to set people up on 8.8.8.8 for the day than to use the DCs
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CloFan posted:Exactly this. The company cut the other line so they wouldn't have to pay for them both, even when poo poo like this happens at least a couple times per year.
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What's the name of the bank? I may have to close some accounts.
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Does anyone have experience re-negotiating salaries as a contractor? I'm trying to figure out what a fair cut the contracting company should take. Currently I'm making $39/hr and my position is contracted out at $60. So the contracting company is making $21 for every hour I work - which seems ridiculous to me. Also for this position there are absolutely no benefits to add in except for like 7 paid holidays a year when the office is closed (x-mas etc)
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