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KilGrey posted:I'm still having a hard time seeing Clancy Brown as the kindly, wise mentor. He creeped me out so bad in Carnivale it's etched in my brain. Some of us are more used to Clancy Brown being on the other end of the beheader/beheadee arrangement.
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Don't forget he was a nice dad in Earth 2. Uh, if anyone remembers Earth 2.
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Jan 16, 2014 00:36
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I prefer the episodes that don't have Crane's wife in them. I feel like every scene she's in just had subpar acting.
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Jan 16, 2014 00:51
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I don't know what guy saw Dexter and thought "we should give this woman a main cast role in our new show". She's barely in the show as it is and it makes me wonder if they just started taking scenes away from the character after finding out her limitation.
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Jan 16, 2014 01:04
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Jedit posted:Some of us are more used to Clancy Brown being on the other end of the beheader/beheadee arrangement. I'm increasingly used to him as Mr. Krabbs. But the Kurgan (and Sgt. Zim) is really where it's at with Clancy Brown.
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Midnight City posted:I don't know what guy saw Dexter and thought "we should give this woman a main cast role in our new show".
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Jan 16, 2014 02:36
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Lycus posted:I'm just finding it odd that she's billed as a main character, but Jenny's actress isn't. That's due to contracts signed at the beginning of the season. I fully expect that Jenny will be a main character next season.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:I'm increasingly used to him as Mr. Krabbs. Rawhide 
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:Rawhide Lex Luthor e: I think he also had disposable mentor syndrome in Cowboys & Aliens. Kaddion fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Jan 16, 2014 |
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Jan 16, 2014 03:41
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Rabbit Hill posted:Don't forget he was a nice dad in Earth 2. Uh, if anyone remembers Earth 2. I remember Earth 2 AND I didn't see Carnivale... I am the person for whom his casting works.
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Jan 16, 2014 04:07
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Gyges posted:Glad to see Ben Franklin's getting in on the apocalypse. If we dont get Benjy and GW leading the Charge of the Light Brigade, show ruined
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Jan 16, 2014 05:00
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Coconut Indian posted:I prefer the episodes that don't have Crane's wife in them. I feel like every scene she's in just had subpar acting.
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Jan 16, 2014 18:15
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Tupping Liberty posted:I remember Earth 2 AND I didn't see Carnivale... I am the person for whom his casting works. No, you're a horrible waste of perfectly good organic matter who needs to go watch Carnivale right loving now because it's amazing.
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Jan 16, 2014 18:40
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Jedit posted:No, you're a horrible waste of perfectly good organic matter who needs to go watch Carnivale right loving now because it's amazing. This, I was so loving bummed when that show got canned. It was soooo good.
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I have seen Carnivale several times, but for some reason didn't remember the actor being on that show, i associate him with Lost.
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Jan 16, 2014 20:21
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Whaaaa- He's in my avatar yo doesn't that look like someone you'd remember lordy he's only the best character on the show oh my  Seriously, if anyone here hasn't watched Carnivale, you need to remedy that.
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Jan 16, 2014 20:37
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Yeah all these people talking about how crushed they were by it ending suddenly and without resolution really recommends it to me.
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Jan 16, 2014 20:38
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It's the journey, not the destination.
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Rabbit Hill posted:It's the journey, not the destination. That 'argument' may be true for life in the most general sense, but it sure as poo poo doesn't fly when we're talking about tv shows. I'm still pissed about Alphas. And before that, Firefly. And before that (this one's for the 'geezers'), Dark Angel.
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Nobody's saying every character on every show has to have some kind of conclusive ending where the audience is shown exactly what happens to them, but a show needs to be able finish the story it was trying to tell if its going to feel complete. Its basic storytelling, there should be a beginning, middle, and end. If you told me in advance that a story will be abruptly cut off two thirds of the way though I wouldn't want to bother starting.
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richardfun posted:That 'argument' may be true for life in the most general sense, but it sure as poo poo doesn't fly when we're talking about tv shows. Alphas ended at a natural conclusion.
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Jedit posted:Alphas ended at a natural conclusion. The way Alphas ended is, in my humble opinion at least, the very definition of a butt clenching cliffhanger. Also, I miss Gary 
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You can still have a satisfying experience even if the show doesn't make it to the end. Carnivale was a really good show, and I don't consider my time wasted at all for watching it despite it not "ending". There is an ending of a sort in those two seasons anyway, it's the twin journeys of Justin and Ben as they discover who they are and struggle with that. Is there more story after that? Sure, but there's obviously more stories to be told after any show which does end. Like there's not more stories you could tell about Jesse Pinkman or Vic Mackey or Widget the World Watcher or whatever show you choose.
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Rabbit Hill posted:Whaaaa- He's in my avatar yo doesn't that look like someone you'd remember lordy he's only the best character on the show oh my I sometimes have a bad memory for actors, and while Clancy Brown does a great job in Carmivale i must admit that i don't follow his side of the story too closely.
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richardfun posted:That 'argument' may be true for life in the most general sense, but it sure as poo poo doesn't fly when we're talking about tv shows. Oh, man, Dark Angel. I'm surprised they haven't tried to reboot that. I remain most butthurt over the tragedy that is Kings not getting a second season. That show was legitimately amazing, and the setup for the next season was solid. I mean, come on: Ian McShane played a corrupt king. In what universe isn't that awesome? Sleepy Hollow is one of few shows I want to be *more* excessive and ridiculous. Especially the time travel and historical revisionist shenanigans; they're like National Treasure movies with demons in them. I hope they tie even more weird occult poo poo to other parts of world history. I mean, was the Civil War actually about the devil? Was Robert E. Lee possessed? Was John Brown actually put into crypto-sleep after Harpers Ferry? I want them to get weirder with it. Custer was in a demonic cult. Czar Nicholas II broke a blood oath with the devil. Hitler learned black magic from the Thule Society. *That* kind of weird. If I wanted restraint or plausibility, I'd watch Downton Abbey. (I actually do watch Downton Abbey, though.)
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Xealot posted:
I really wanted to like Kings, because the acting and the concept was amazing, but I just couldn't. The episodically contained super-crises every episode just made it impossible for me to take it seriously. Monster-of-the-week style shows are one thing, but national-level-disaster-of-the-week is just silly. The effects in Sleepy Hollow continue to be top notch. The demon in this arc reminds me a lot of Azazel from the movie The Fallen.
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Jedit posted:Alphas ended at a natural conclusion. I actually believe this because for some reason my mind is cool with everyone being dead except Gary. Does Carnivale give me a similar opportunity, or is it less conclusive than Alphas?
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It ends like the first act of a larger story. There's a conclusion which promises new stories, but is sort of self-contained despite that.
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Tupping Liberty posted:I actually believe this because for some reason my mind is cool with everyone being dead except Gary. It definitely shows that there is more of the story to tell, but you get enough of an ending to be satisfied. I had questions when it was over but they were questions that were able to be answered by looking back at previous episodes. It's definitely not a show you can just pop on in the background, you need to actually sit and watch it. While I'd have loved for the show to have gone on, it was very much worth watching what we did get. Here is a the intro to the first episode to give you a little taste: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqc0R6Geh_8 Also, it probably has my favorite opening credits to a show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CYMXoX-b0o
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I love this show so much, I just discovered it after it was mentioned in the Almost Human thread, and I've just spent the past two days marathoning all the episodes so far. It's the closest thing to Buffy/Angel that's existed since Angel finished.
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The Lord Bude posted:I love this show so much, I just discovered it after it was mentioned in the Almost Human thread, and I've just spent the past two days marathoning all the episodes so far. Grimm is actually closer, but Sleepy Hollow is in the ballpark.
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:Grimm is actually closer, but Sleepy Hollow is in the ballpark. I haven't seen that... Guess I have something to do over the weekend now.
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Talking of other shows with similar themes, I can't help but compare sleepy hollow with supernatural. Don't get me wrong, I love supernatural, but if one of the leads was told by a powerful demon "I'm going to take the other leads soul and it will be your fault" they would spend 3 episodes angsting about it, lying about nothing being wrong and then finally confessing after doing something monumentally stupid in an attempt to sort out the problem on their own. In sleepy hollow moloch tells crane that, so crane... Tells Abbie what happened the minute she walks into the room so they can try to deal with it together. Its refreshing to have characters in a genre show occasionally acting like sensible adults. Similarly, Irving trusting and working with Abbie and Ichabod, even when his daughter is possessed. I think one of the things I like about the show is that a lot of the drama comes from the main characters vs the villains instead of forcing clashes between main characters by having none of them talk to each other.
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SiKboy posted:Talking of other shows with similar themes, I can't help but compare sleepy hollow with supernatural. Don't get me wrong, I love supernatural, but if one of the leads was told by a powerful demon "I'm going to take the other leads soul and it will be your fault" they would spend 3 episodes angsting about it, lying about nothing being wrong and then finally confessing after doing something monumentally stupid in an attempt to sort out the problem on their own. In sleepy hollow moloch tells crane that, so crane... Tells Abbie what happened the minute she walks into the room so they can try to deal with it together. Its refreshing to have characters in a genre show occasionally acting like sensible adults. In the same vein, remember Crane's child? Most shows would have the characters keep it a secret from one another until the finale or a few episodes later. Not here, sayeth Abbie who told Crane about his Witch(Wizard?) baby the moment she met him again.
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Postal Parcel posted:In the same vein, remember Crane's child? Most shows would have the characters keep it a secret from one another until the finale or a few episodes later. Which immediately lead to the deaths of several "good" people when his kid's doll followed him back from interrogating his wife in purgatory and went on a revenge spree. That was a weird sentence.
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It's the magic of the 13 episode season. They don't have to worry about padding out the seasons with numerous monster-of-the-week episodes. And even when they do have one of those episodes, it still adds something to the over-all story, and isn't just a one-off. As of now, aren't they already re-newed for a second 13 episode season? I haven't heard anything about a full-season order. Personally, I want them to stick to this format. It may mean a longer wait for new Sleepy Hollow, but you know it'll be worth it when it gets here.
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El Tortuga posted:It's the magic of the 13 episode season. They don't have to worry about padding out the seasons with numerous monster-of-the-week episodes. And even when they do have one of those episodes, it still adds something to the over-all story, and isn't just a one-off. There is a second season and it is intentionally always 13 episode orders.
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Orlando Jones seems to think we're all going to be blown away by the finale: http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsideth...eakin-mind.html
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Astrofig posted:Orlando Jones seems to think we're all going to be blown away by the finale: http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsideth...eakin-mind.html "Level 1 has ended. Begin Level 2"
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Astrofig posted:Orlando Jones seems to think we're all going to be blown away by the finale: http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsideth...eakin-mind.html
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