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hatelull posted:Can anyone recommend where to start with Superchunk? First LP is worthless apart from the single Slack Motherfucker which is on the Tossing Seeds singles comp. Get the second LP No Pocky For Kitty and go forward from there. Things start to go sour around Indoor Living because they got old and slowed their music down too much but their past two LPs have been better than everything else since Here's Where The Strings Come In
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hatelull posted:Can anyone recommend where to start with Superchunk? that's what i'd do.
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I can't believe this thread is still going.
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Not so much where to start as where to go next, but I've been listening to a lot of Gary Moore's heavy rock discogrpahy from the 1980s and Ozzy Osbourne's solo albums with Randy Rhoads on guitar, so I'd like to know if anyone's aware of more obscure non-extreme metal bands and albums from, let's say, the late 1970s through to the early 1990s. I'm familiar with most of the big names, so if anybody can think of any less well-known artists, that'd be pretty cool.
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Try some of these: Riot - Thundersteel Brocas Helm - Into Battle Crimson Glory - Crimson Glory Diamond Head - Lightning to the Nations Manilla Road - Open the Gates Satan - Court in the Act Mercyful Fate - Melissa
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All good suggestions. Grim Reaper's "See You In Hell" is another one worth checking out.
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Further on my earlier post, what are good places to start with UFO and Michael Schenker?
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Metal Loaf posted:Further on my earlier post, what are good places to start with UFO and Michael Schenker? If you're into live albums, I recommend starting with Strangers in the Night for UFO. If not, Lights Out and Phenomenon are probably the best places to start. For Michael Schenker/Group, my favorite album is Assault Attack (which has Graham Bonnett singing) but I know a lot of people are into MSG.
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Strangers in the Night contains his absolute best guitar playing, but for studio work you can do worse than just going chronologically from Phenomenon, which is when he joined.
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Where do I start with the Bee Gees? All I really know from them is Staying Alive. But they seem interesting. Also the 2 different singer periods.
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Cerepol posted:Where do I start with the Bee Gees? Main Course is where they become the Bee Gees in their cheesy disco glory and the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack has their five best known songs. Spirits Have Flown has their ballads. I'm afraid I don't know too much about their non-disco music.
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Reading this thread all the way through was a bit annoying (I swear some bands would come up every other page) but I did get nice list of stuff to check out. There was a Dead Can Dance question that I would have loved to have answered, but it was from like 5 years ago... Anyway. Is there anything similar to Agoraphobic Nosebleed's half of The Poacher Diaries? From what I understand the band somewhat distanced itself from it since they thought it was more metal than grindcore or whatever. Also, I'm wondering if I should bother with post-Siamese Dream Smashing Pumpkins. I like that album (other than Disarm, which I can't stand) but I don't particularly care for any of the Mellon Collie singles I've heard. I'll probably pick up Gish and Pisces Iscariot at some point.
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Mellon Collie is worth diving into even if you don't like the singles just because it's a huge and varied album. I do like Siamese Dream better but it's really solid.
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Agreed, there is large opinion that MCIS has some serious bloat. If you venture into the Pumpkins thread you will find a lot of people have an opinion on how the album could best be trimmed into one cd. I'm not saying everything is great, but if you ignore it based on what singles you've heard you might miss out on a lot of really great deep cuts. I really enjoy Adore, but expect a drastically different sound due to band drama. Machina and forward always sounds slightly more "robotic" to me, and that record especially seems like it was trying desperately to capture the sound that made MCIS so successful. You might enjoy the b-sides/unreleased stuff on Machina II though. That sort of veers off into committed territory. For a better sample, seek out the Rotten Apples compilation. This was released in conjunction with their, at the time, final tour. It has a pretty decent sampling of the work pre-reunion. The version with the bonus disc Judas 0 has a great collection of b-sides that would take more effort to track down and find otherwise. hatelull fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Jan 25, 2014 |
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Ok, you guys convinced me to add Mellon Collie to "buy if I find a super cheap used copy"  Gary Numan - Up until about a week ago the only thing I knew about him was the song Cars. I picked up Splinter since it seemed to get universally positive reviews and I love it. I intend to start working backwards from here, but can someone give an overview of his career? I assume someone who has been around that long has been through a couple of eras.
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david_a posted:Ok, you guys convinced me to add Mellon Collie to "buy if I find a super cheap used copy" Listen to Replicas by Tubeway Army, which was Numan's band prior to going solo. It is one of the coolest loving albums of all time. His stuff with Tubeway Army is generally a little punkier (think early DEVO) and aggressive than his solo stuff. His solo album Pleasure Principle (which contains "Cars", and my personal favorite Numan tune "M.E.") is the perfect halfway between the aggression of Tubeway Army and his later, spacier solo stuff. His best album post-Pleasure Principle is Telekon, hands down. For a good overview, I would listen to those albums in that order: Replicas, then Pleasure Principle, then Telekon. EDIT: haha, I just realized those three albums came out one after another in the late 70s and early 80s. But that's just kind of how Numan's career is. Every album he made after Telekon in the 80s pretty much blows and his 90s albums also kind of blow. It's only as of late that he's starting to make worthwhile albums again. I would definitely recommend starting with that trio I posted earlier, if you work your way backward from his most recent stuff you're going to hit a big ol' wall of garbage and burn yourself out before you get to the good poo poo. Blast Fantasto fucked around with this message at 07:42 on Jan 25, 2014 |
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Blast Fantasto posted:I would definitely recommend starting with that trio I posted earlier, if you work your way backward from his most recent stuff you're going to hit a big ol' wall of garbage and burn yourself out before you get to the good poo poo.
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david_a posted:Ok, you guys convinced me to add Mellon Collie to "buy if I find a super cheap used copy"
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Youtube too. In general, if whatever album you're looking for isn't super obscure, you can find either the full album or large parts of it on Youtube.
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david_a posted:When did he start releasing worthwhile stuff again? There was a recommendation earlier in the thread for Exile/Pure/Jagged. I would say that Exile is a good place to start again.
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Numan's "Jagged" has howevermany songs that sound pretty much the same, but it culminates in "Before You Hate It" which rules. I like the Sulphur remix especially: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwdFSz64lSo
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alnilam posted:Jamiroquai? Travelling Without Moving. But I rate everything up to A Funk Odyssey . Earlier stuff is technically 'better' but the mid-period has more radio hits.
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I will say that for Numan some of those post-Telekon albums ain't so bad. Dance has always been a favorite of mine and if you don't mind slap-synthbass and the backing vox some albums like Berserker are rather fun. But definitely check out his first four. For the recent albums I think Splinter is probably the best he's done since The Pleasure Principle, I really do think it's magnificent and I am hoping it'll hold up years down the road. His most recent period, from Sacrifice on, are all good to great albums - but I think they suffer from a bit of sameness. Pure in particular strikes me as an album that has awesome sonics and overall good songwriting but he can't help himself from falling into the same quiet/loud/quiet/loud dynamic that makes the songs hard to pull apart. For the most part Splinter is diverse enough to be free of all that.
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Everyone talks about Numan's WARRIORS album as being his all-time worst, however I think a lot of that comes from the absolutely idiotic cover art (ridiculous even by Numan's own lousy cover art standards)-- He's trying to butch it up by wearing Road Warrior-type studs 'n' leather, against a post-apocalyptic background. But instead of coming off tough, he's like a wimpy little kid running around in his superhero Underoos. It's so laughable that you're immediately biased against the album and likely to dismiss the whole package as worthless without even listening to it. Music-wise, though, I don't think it's particularly worse than, say, I ASSASSIN or THE FURY... Yeah, I know, faint praise, but it's not as terrible as the STRANGE CHARM/OUTLAND/MACHINE AND SOUL trilogy of suck. Also, if you're a fan of Bill Nelson, you'll probably enjoy WARRIORS more. He produced, plays some guitar and does a bit of singing; a couple of the tracks sound like they could have come off of one of Bill's own records. Bill had his name removed from the album credits because the boys had a falling out. Gary Numan posted:It seemed as though our reasons for even breathing were completely opposed to one another. At one point we were talking about why we were in the business...[Nelson] told me that all creative people pick up beams of inspiration from across the cosmos and we channel it into creative art and we do what we do for the people. I said, 'That's complete bollocks,' and it all went downhill from then on really, as we began to grate on each other quite badly.
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JAMOOOL posted:For the recent albums I think Splinter is probably the best he's done since The Pleasure Principle, I really do think it's magnificent and I am hoping it'll hold up years down the road. His most recent period, from Sacrifice on, are all good to great albums - but I think they suffer from a bit of sameness. Pure in particular strikes me as an album that has awesome sonics and overall good songwriting but he can't help himself from falling into the same quiet/loud/quiet/loud dynamic that makes the songs hard to pull apart. For the most part Splinter is diverse enough to be free of all that.
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Popcorn posted:The Posies? Frosting on the Beater
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Where do I start with Sunn O)))? I was going to try Monoliths and Dimensions, but I listened to the first minute and decided sitting at work is probably not the best environment to be listening to something this atmospheric. Did I pick a good one or should I go elsewhere?
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Kumbamontu posted:Where do I start with Sunn O)))? I was going to try Monoliths and Dimensions, but I listened to the first minute and decided sitting at work is probably not the best environment to be listening to something this atmospheric. Did I pick a good one or should I go elsewhere? Personally 00 Void is my favourite starting point, and feels like Sunn0))) at their "purest" if you will, but maybe because that's where I started. Monoliths and Dimensions is definitely a fine choice too. FWIW I listen to various kinds of drone music at work all the time, but I could see it being a little distracting. If I'm reading/writing, time for some spacey drone. If I'm doing lab work, time for some mind-bending drone metal 
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Flight of the Behemoth is good, and much more traditional drone than some of their later works.
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I think if you're not into drone already you might try starting with the collaboration they did with Boris, Altar. It's the only thing of theirs I was really able to get to like.
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Kumbamontu posted:Where do I start with Sunn O)))? I was going to try Monoliths and Dimensions, but I listened to the first minute and decided sitting at work is probably not the best environment to be listening to something this atmospheric. Did I pick a good one or should I go elsewhere? The best way to get into and appreciate SUNN O))) is to go into a dark room, no light, no windows, and put on headphones. Just sit in the dark and listen. I did this with Black One and had visual nightmares. I'd say Black One or Monoliths are both good to start
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I'm curious about Black Label Society. Zykk Wylde strikes me as a interesting character
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Thanks for the suggestions everyone! Polegrinder posted:The best way to get into and appreciate SUNN O))) is to go into a dark room, no light, no windows, and put on headphones. Just sit in the dark and listen. I did this with Black One and had visual nightmares. I'd say Black One or Monoliths are both good to start That's my plan, and is what I meant by not really being in the right frame of mind while trying to listen to Monoliths. Too many lights and distractions at work for me to truly get into the groove.
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Can anyone tell me about The Motet?
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LordPants posted:Fear Factory Demanufacture is probably their most popular album, and for good reason.
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Demanufacture and Archetype are great, the two studio records that follow Demanufacture (Obsolete, Digimortal) and Archetype (Transgression, Mechanize) are meh-to-pretty-good. Anything else is only for the hardcore fan.
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That Guy From Pearldiver posted:I'm curious about Black Label Society. Zykk Wylde strikes me as a interesting character Zakk Wylde is GBS as gently caress. That being said, Sonic Brew is probably their best regarded album and also their chronological first, so start there, probably. There's also Pride and Glory, his first attempt at fronting a band, and No More Tears, his best album with Ozzy (and the last one before he started out on the Pride and Glory/BLS trip).
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