Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
The Electronaut
May 10, 2009

quote:

brooktrout card and Rightfax software

gently caress this junk in the ear. Good god, fax solutions are some serious black magic voodoo poo poo. That and Genifax. Last gig couldn't migrate a 2000 server because it had a fax card that they were having issues dealing with migrating into another platform.

Liability talk:

Last gig sued $a_big_storage_solution_vendor for a poo poo load of money and won because their kit poo poo the bed due to software bugs.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

There has to be some cloud fax solution out there. That would be at the top of my list to outsource if I had to deal with fax poo poo

The Electronaut
May 10, 2009
poo poo not pissing me off:

I'm easily jaded by technology but my new gig has some amazing user stuff. I can badge print using a central queue that all the printers talk to. I'm given my own wireless headset to use at any desk in the open office plan, which have dual widescreen monitors and docking stations. Also, given a corded usb headset to use with the soft phone that works over the VPN. I can video conference with peers around the world, in fact I VC'ed with a guy in Asia and some guys in Europe. I'm blown away by all of this.

As an aside not related to work, I just got off a 15 minute phone call that cost me next to nothing to Australia over Google Voice.

TWBalls
Apr 16, 2003
My medication never lies

The Electronaut posted:

gently caress this junk in the ear. Good god, fax solutions are some serious black magic voodoo poo poo. That and Genifax. Last gig couldn't migrate a 2000 server because it had a fax card that they were having issues dealing with migrating into another platform.

Heh, that Brooktrout/Rightfax system I was referring to was also running on Server 2000. That, and the fact that the drat server kept shutting off and flashing a hardware error light every week, were the reasons we wanted to finally be rid of the drat thing.

The Electronaut
May 10, 2009

TWBalls posted:

Heh, that Brooktrout/Rightfax system I was referring to was also running on Server 2000. That, and the fact that the drat server kept shutting off and flashing a hardware error light every week, were the reasons we wanted to finally be rid of the drat thing.

The one I referenced had a 9 GB OS drive that was constantly running low on space due to AV definitions and other poo poo causing alerts to be generated.

KennyTheFish
Jan 13, 2004
Might be combining evils into mega evil, but we use the MFD fax integration and Fax to email / print to Fax on them instead of dealing with Fax hardware. Works well for us.

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

If you have a problem Yo, I'll solve it

Volmarias posted:

The EULA says a lot of things, many of which may not be enforceable.

True, but your ROI on lawyers (and time, and lawyer billable time) as the plaintiff isn't worth proving that...

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?
Today its not really what's pissing me off, its what's causing me guilt.

Client pays for a scanner and asks me to install it on their server. They only have a server available and the scanner doesn't support it. Now the client is pissed off, which I get and I don't really care about. I asked my manager who deals with this sort of thing which would be admin (apparently). He also wants to have a word with the person in admin who scheduled it for me to do. This is where the guilt comes in. This person quite literally just assigned the work because the person usually assigning it isn't in. The manager is probably going to make them feel like crap over making a mistake, even though it wasn't their mistake, but they're going to take the fall for it regardless, even though we've said that she wasn't the one who sent out the scanner.

Just, loving, argh. Office politics annoys me. Now the admin girl is annoyed at me, the client is annoyed at me and i haven't even called the clients manager yet. Long day ahead.

SubjectVerbObject
Jul 27, 2009
So my job has gone the metric route, and now is going the 'new process to follow every week' route. It seems like every new process I learn, I forget another one, or my work gets that much slower. I am not sure if this is because I am slowing down as I get into my 40's, or I've lost my passion, or burnout or whatever, but work is not fun.

For those of you who are older and in IT, is there a point where you hit a wall? It seems like I am fixing the same things over and over, and nothing is new, and I feel like a grumpy old man.

Siochain
May 24, 2005

"can they get rid of any humans who are fans of shitheads like Kanye West, 50 Cent, or any other piece of crap "artist" who thinks they're all that?

And also get rid of anyone who has posted retarded shit on the internet."


SubjectVerbObject posted:

So my job has gone the metric route, and now is going the 'new process to follow every week' route. It seems like every new process I learn, I forget another one, or my work gets that much slower. I am not sure if this is because I am slowing down as I get into my 40's, or I've lost my passion, or burnout or whatever, but work is not fun.

For those of you who are older and in IT, is there a point where you hit a wall? It seems like I am fixing the same things over and over, and nothing is new, and I feel like a grumpy old man.

34 and in the same boat.
Tried to get out, economy crashed, back in my poo poo-pod I go.

I'm in this weird state where I don't have the energy to learn something completely new, because by the time I'm done my 9-5 of stressful work, I just want to cook supper and enjoy my evening with the wife. And I'm not in a large enough center to have anywhere to "move" to, so my work-from-home job it is. I don't feel like I've hit a wall...just that I'm stuck in the same room and the door is really stuck and just ~effort~ to do anything else.

wa27
Jan 15, 2007

If a web app only supports IE9 or earlier, don't make your support site for said app crash in IE9. :argh:

UFOTacoMan
Sep 22, 2005

Thanks easter bunny!
bok bok!
Thanks for the fax talk guys. The EMR software that uses the fax server points to an IP so it might be possible to use a cloud solution.

Edit: haha yeah, I'd love to get out of IT as well I think but it's hard to find jobs that pay anything close to what I can make in IT. Until I can take afford a severe pay cut I think I'm stuck in IT until my kid clears college. So I don't know maybe 20 more years? :suicide:

UFOTacoMan fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Jan 24, 2014

dennyk
Jan 2, 2005

Cheese-Buyer's Remorse
Man, we had a fun one today. Someone hooked a workstation up to our network whose hostname was set to "localhost" and it automatically registered itself in our Infoblox system as "localhost.companyname.net" on our internal domain, which all of our servers have as a DNS search domain. We have a bunch of AIX servers which default to using DNS before the hosts file (because AIX), so they all suddenly started resolving the hostname "localhost" as one of our DHCP workstation IPs. Luckily it didn't appear to break anything except a bunch of monitoring checks that used that hostname for a command, though (and it's lucky it broke those, otherwise I wouldn't have seen any alerts and we might never have known about it until something actually did go horribly wrong). Our DNS guy nuked the offending entry and add a bogus "localhost" host to Infoblox with a null MAC so nothing else can register as that hostname again.

Of course my RHEL boxes didn't care because they're all configured properly and use the hosts file first. :smugbert:

dennyk fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Jan 25, 2014

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


I'm amazed that a DNS server will even accept localhost as an entry

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Pissing me off:

The wonderful combination of Certain old Gigabyte Motherboards and Seagate HDDs causing a 1TB drive to show as ~30MB. A BIOS update and the use of SeaTools for DOS (they have a handy bootable 8.5MB image on the Seagate site) and my friend is back in business. It did take a while convincing him that yes I did have to update the BIOS.

Now onto having a 3 day weekend to get stuff done around the house

Playing my PS4 finally and the inevitable cleanup of beer bottles that will pile up next to my laz-e-boy

nitrogen
May 21, 2004

Oh, what's a 217°C difference between friends?

Caged posted:

I'm amazed that a DNS server will even accept localhost as an entry

Why? It's a perfectly valid IP address.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


I can't think of an occasion where you'd want localhost to resolve to anything other than the local machine.

Roseo
Jun 1, 2000
Forum Veteran
Localhost. isn't resolving to anything other than 127.0.0.1 and the local machine. But since some hosts are searching the local domain first before resolving localhost localhost.whatever.com is messing stuff up.

nitrogen
May 21, 2004

Oh, what's a 217°C difference between friends?
Do you guys mean making a host, eg. hoobastank.contoso.com A 127.0.0.1
or doing something like localhost.contoso.com A 10.1.2.3.4

The latter is pretty weird, and probably very broken, but the former is common depending on what you're trying to do.

Westie
May 30, 2013



Baboon Simulator
I'd say the latter.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

If anyone out there is still using 4.2.2.x for DNS....Level 3 has been hijacking requests

http://james.bertelson.me/blog/2014/01/level-3-are-now-hijacking-failed-dns-requests-for-ad-revenue-on-4-2-2-x/

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Bob Morales posted:

If anyone out there is still using 4.2.2.x for DNS....Level 3 has been hijacking requests

http://james.bertelson.me/blog/2014/01/level-3-are-now-hijacking-failed-dns-requests-for-ad-revenue-on-4-2-2-x/
One of the comments is, "Did anyone notice the 'disable this service' link in the top right of the screenshot?"

GOOCHY
Sep 17, 2003

In an interstellar burst I'm back to save the universe!

SubjectVerbObject posted:

So my job has gone the metric route, and now is going the 'new process to follow every week' route. It seems like every new process I learn, I forget another one, or my work gets that much slower. I am not sure if this is because I am slowing down as I get into my 40's, or I've lost my passion, or burnout or whatever, but work is not fun.

For those of you who are older and in IT, is there a point where you hit a wall? It seems like I am fixing the same things over and over, and nothing is new, and I feel like a grumpy old man.

I really felt this way at my last gig. The cure was to get up and out of there. Find a new job. There are a lot of the same problems and a whole batch of new ones (DoD contracting, red tape...) at my new job but the change of scenery is refreshing. Sometimes you just need to shake up your reality a little bit. IT is not my passion, it never will be, but it's the only thing I know and the only skill I have that can pay me the way that it does.

I guess what I'm saying is, buckle down, focus and get out. Maybe that means getting out of IT entirely? It could just mean getting into another gig/new-ish environment. It depends on your situation. For me, leaving IT wasn't an option even though if I won the lottery tomorrow I would never touch another computer again. My wife and I had our first child this year and it shook up my priorities quite a bit.

36 here...

GOOCHY fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Jan 25, 2014

dennyk
Jan 2, 2005

Cheese-Buyer's Remorse

nitrogen posted:

Do you guys mean making a host, eg. hoobastank.contoso.com A 127.0.0.1
or doing something like localhost.contoso.com A 10.1.2.3.4

The latter is pretty weird, and probably very broken, but the former is common depending on what you're trying to do.

Yep, it was the latter. Workstations on our network are auto-registered in our DNS system (as computername.companyname.net) when they get a DHCP lease. Someone managed to DHCP up with a system whose name was set to "localhost", which resulted in a DNS entry "localhost.companyname.net" pointing to their DHCP IP (some 10.x.x.x address).


Edit: The only thing worse than a 17-hour work day is a 17-hour work "day" that lasts from noon Saturday till 5AM Sunday. With no comp time. :(

dennyk fucked around with this message at 09:45 on Jan 26, 2014

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


I see the hours some people put in to their job like dennyk - is there any fatigue management rules/guidelines/laws where you are from?

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

GOOCHY posted:

I really felt this way at my last gig. The cure was to get up and out of there. Find a new job. There are a lot of the same problems and a whole batch of new ones (DoD contracting, red tape...) at my new job but the change of scenery is refreshing. Sometimes you just need to shake up your reality a little bit. IT is not my passion, it never will be, but it's the only thing I know and the only skill I have that can pay me the way that it does.

I guess what I'm saying is, buckle down, focus and get out. Maybe that means getting out of IT entirely? It could just mean getting into another gig/new-ish environment. It depends on your situation. For me, leaving IT wasn't an option even though if I won the lottery tomorrow I would never touch another computer again. My wife and I had our first child this year and it shook up my priorities quite a bit.

36 here...

I'm 47 and due to always working in small shops and never once having a mentor I have far fewer tech skills than the rest of you. My only real strengths are:

1. I can manage I.T., including upper management and vendors
2. I have been around a long time and I've seen pretty much everything
3. I look younger than I am

There's no way out for me and staying current is close to impossible now. My workload went from very low to very high over a six month period so there's no time for anything other than my task list.

So this is it until I can't get an I.T. job that pays my bills, at which point I'll... no idea.

dennyk
Jan 2, 2005

Cheese-Buyer's Remorse

Humphreys posted:

I see the hours some people put in to their job like dennyk - is there any fatigue management rules/guidelines/laws where you are from?

Only if you are in a handful of federally-regulated fields where being too tired can kill innocent bystanders, like driving trucks or flying commercial aircraft. Otherwise, you work however long your company wants you to work. And if you're an employee and you're exempt from overtime laws, then you don't even have to be paid anything above your base salary for the extra time. 95% of the folks in this thread who are employees (as opposed to contractors) are almost certainly exempt; the overtime exemption level for salaried employees in "professional" fields (which includes basically all of IT) is less then $24k USD per year (a salary level which, if you're the sole breadwinner in a family of four, literally puts you at the poverty line in the US).

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

If you have a problem Yo, I'll solve it

dennyk posted:

Only if you are in a handful of federally-regulated fields where being too tired can kill innocent bystanders, like driving trucks or flying commercial aircraft. Otherwise, you work however long your company wants you to work. And if you're an employee and you're exempt from overtime laws, then you don't even have to be paid anything above your base salary for the extra time. 95% of the folks in this thread who are employees (as opposed to contractors) are almost certainly exempt; the overtime exemption level for salaried employees in "professional" fields (which includes basically all of IT) is less then $24k USD per year (a salary level which, if you're the sole breadwinner in a family of four, literally puts you at the poverty line in the US).

Right, but there are other qualifiers for salary other than income depending on state. California, for instance, has significant rules around who is or is not eligible for overtime exemptions.

Poor sheepherders.

namol
Mar 21, 2007

dennyk posted:

Only if you are in a handful of federally-regulated fields where being too tired can kill innocent bystanders, like driving trucks or flying commercial aircraft. Otherwise, you work however long your company wants you to work. And if you're an employee and you're exempt from overtime laws, then you don't even have to be paid anything above your base salary for the extra time. 95% of the folks in this thread who are employees (as opposed to contractors) are almost certainly exempt; the overtime exemption level for salaried employees in "professional" fields (which includes basically all of IT) is less then $24k USD per year (a salary level which, if you're the sole breadwinner in a family of four, literally puts you at the poverty line in the US).

I thought the hourly rate was 27 and change which puts you at a salary of 56-57k. No matter what the laws for workers suck in 'Murica.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

namol posted:

I thought the hourly rate was 27 and change which puts you at a salary of 56-57k. No matter what the laws for workers suck in 'Murica.

That's if you're hourly, which you're almost certainly not as a programmer or IT drone. The salaried rate is $455/wk, which is about $11/hr.

http://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/fairpay/fs17e_computer.pdf

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go
I've been working on this for hours why won't it work WHY WILL IT NOT WORK, IT SAYS I NEED THE ADK, I HAVE THE loving ADK, I SWEAR TO GOD IF THIS DOESNT WORK IN THE NEXT TEN MINU

ohhhhh I installed the one for Windows 8 instead of 8.1, well, carry on :shobon:

TKovacs2
Sep 21, 2009

1991, 1992, 2009 = Woooooooooooo
Pissing me off:

Backup Exec 2012. Every single thing about it.

The quality of my life has actually eroded in the two weeks it's been (attempting to) work.

Drighton
Nov 30, 2005

When things are flying across my screen uncontrollably and you catch a glimpse of an error or warning that immediately disappears. The text color or icon says "you should probably take notice of this" but the software seems to think "you can ignore this."

Alctel
Jan 16, 2004

I love snails


TKovacs2 posted:

Pissing me off:

Backup Exec 2012. Every single thing about it.

The quality of my life has actually eroded in the two weeks it's been (attempting to) work.

Backup Exec is the goddamn worst

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go

Drighton posted:

When things are flying across my screen uncontrollably and you catch a glimpse of an error or warning that immediately disappears. The text color or icon says "you should probably take notice of this" but the software seems to think "you can ignore this."
Yeah I had one just last night where it would pop up a cmd.exe window with the error and immediately disappear. Even running the program from its own cmd.exe was no good, because it would always create the new window. No idea why this is a thing that developers let happen.

sfwarlock
Aug 11, 2007

Alctel posted:

Backup Exec is the goddamn worst

What are you talking about? I miss working with Veritas Backup Ex... wait, not Veritas anymore? Who bought it then?

Well poo poo. That explains everything. Carry on.

TKovacs2
Sep 21, 2009

1991, 1992, 2009 = Woooooooooooo

Alctel posted:

Backup Exec is the goddamn worst

You didn't use caps there. It should have read THE GODDAMN WORST.

I didn't want to upgrade from 2010 to 2012, but noooooooo, our hardware vendor said that it would fix the problem we were having.

gently caress me.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011

Hi
:saddowns: Don't look at my site :saddowns:
So I'll be external Monday, Thursday and 1 hour every Friday for the next 3~ months. Boss is telling me to come in before and after the 1 hour assignments. ...
For some reason this really pisses me off, even though I understand the (company) motivation. I guess it's because my Boss seems to give everyone the rest of the day off when poo poo like that is forced on them, but because of his weird hate-boner against me right now, I am exempt.

canis minor
May 4, 2011

Pissing me off today - when your coworkers can't even properly communicate.

:downs: Can we add numeric validation on the phone field?
:3: Why would you want to do that? (proceeds to list all the reasons against it)
:downs: You've got a point there. So, can we add it?
:3: Ask the boss, if he says yes, then I'll put it in

20 min pass

:dance: The boss says yes - let's add the validation, keeping numerics and other special characters.
:aaa:
:aaa: Ok, let me do a group chat.

:aaa: Boss, boss! This validation you're proposing won't really work - if I'm stupid I'll put in stupid data, and restricting me from putting in non-numeric characters won't really matter
:clint: What are we talking about?
:aaa: [proceeds to explain the problem so far]
:clint: So, currently we're putting in only numerics?
:aaa: [proceeds to explain things a little more clearer] no, anything

At this point feeling a little confused I asked the boss directly if :downs: talked to him. Nope.
He talked with other director about if the telephone field should contain numeric data, to which apparently he replied - "not only". That was translated to "Let's introduce this validation as numeric field".

canis minor fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Jan 27, 2014

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Drighton
Nov 30, 2005

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

Yeah I had one just last night where it would pop up a cmd.exe window with the error and immediately disappear. Even running the program from its own cmd.exe was no good, because it would always create the new window. No idea why this is a thing that developers let happen.

You know, that's really just irritating. What's really pissing me off is the boss's inability to properly manage time. This weekend was the third time we've had 5 people tasked to do a job that only needs 2. Not that more hands will help, we actually have 3 people standing around because there is nothing for them to do. Luckily I was able to do some other work for 5 hours rather than stand around but none of it actually required me to be there on a Saturday.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply