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gatz posted:Chunk, the most pathetic character in the game, everybody. Excuse me, I think you meant to write "best character" here  Don't rat out Mercurio. You have to weigh the options: how likely is it that LaCroix would react with anything other than "Oh cool, thanks I guess" and then eliminate an underling he clearly doesn't think to be that important anyway? It's better to be keep Mercurio in your debt, I say! Oh, and suck up to LaCroix - Ventrue know their place! Which is behind their elders with a stake in the hand
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Shut up about Mercurio and suck up to him.
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That garage is a pain in the backside to stealth. You could have used blood buff in the harder areas to boost your sneaking a bit though. Also, slow and steady does it. You really should have been able to pull it off. I think my favourite run of that place was when I got down there, stole the case, and everything bugged out so neither side killed each other and the top three floors guards didn't despawn. I had to fight may way up four floors of parking garage with my fists and that little handgun  double nine posted:edit: that security guard in the apartments is something that the unofficial patch added. Does he ever do anything? He seems like a pointless addition that I really have no clue what his added benefit is. Oh, a vote! I vote for keeping Mercurio's secret, and as much as I love sassing Lacroix, it is probably best to suck up to him
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Feb 10, 2014 14:41
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I've never been able to ghost the garage either. I could wait til later in the game but never have had the patience. Shut up and suck up.
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Feb 10, 2014 15:13
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This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!
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Mercurio is credit to team, and milk that fucker for every penny. We'll have time to stick it to the Man later. Best he thinks we're on the same side for now.
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Feb 10, 2014 15:38
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Mercurio is in your debt now, why waste an asset that you know to be valuable? Its a low-risk, high reward scenario here. Keep quiet about Mercurio. LaCroix is still the Prince, and even if you intend to supplant him its best he remain unaware and un-enraged. Better suck up a bit to him and show some gratitude for your second chance at unlife.
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Feb 10, 2014 16:00
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To err is human, and Mercurio's just a human who's had a sip of the good stuff. No reason to report what's already been resolved. If we're going to screw with LaCroix, there's no reason to reveal our hand just yet. Best to schmooze with him in the meantime.
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Feb 10, 2014 16:16
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Mercurio's already had the everloving poo poo beat out of him, so I think he's paid for his screwup. Plus he'll owe us, which is nice. Don't give up Mercurio You're a baby Ventrue, and apparently your thing is supposed to be making nice faces at people while positioning your knife behind them (wielded by someone else, naturally)--suck up...for now
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Feb 10, 2014 17:20
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Keep quiet and schmooze like the Ventrue spawn you are.
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Bobbin Threadbare posted:Keep quiet and schmooze like the Ventrue spawn you are. This.
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Feb 10, 2014 17:24
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Keep Quite and Act Neutral
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Feb 10, 2014 17:47
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Don't screw Mercurio and be a suck-up.
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Feb 10, 2014 18:05
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I say we say nothing about Merc, and that we should schmooze with LaCroix. We're Ventrue, it's kinda expected we do this as a blueblood.
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Feb 10, 2014 18:16
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Merc is our bro, don't rat him out. As to LaCroix, play it neutral. Don't milk too much out of him.
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Feb 10, 2014 18:51
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Mercurio trusted us, let's keep Mercurio's failure secret. And be neutral, I'd love to tell the prince some things but it's not a time to make enemies.
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Pickled Tink posted:You really should have been able to pull it off. Hey man  That guy on the left was right in the way of where I needed to go. I waited for a bit, but he didn't move.  Then as soon as I get to the ladder he opens fire on me, somehow having 20/20 eyes on the side of his head, but deaf to me walking behind him and blind with his front eyes. Of course, I could have reloaded, but what's the fun in that?
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gatz posted:Hey man Plus, this gives another good example of life as a vampire. Got caught by 5-10 armed thugs? Instead of just being dead, getting shot is an annoyance and the thugs all die like flies. It's less "oh gently caress I got caught" and more "damnit I really wanted to be sneaky. Oh well!" 
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Feb 10, 2014 19:59
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Keep Mercutio's secret and suck up to LaCroix.
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More votes for Keeping Mercutio's secret and flattering LaCroix. You are Ventrue after all.
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Gantolandon posted:Holy poo poo, I would really play a GTA-like game where you are a vampire/werewolf/mage doing supernatural stuff and, instead of FBI and the army, faces NWO Men in Black, HIT-Marks and Void Engineer Border Corps. If you could get Volition to make it I would play the hell out of this.
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I have to ask those more knowledgeable than me: is this "the environmental and urban devastation" sign written in italian a reference to something specific in the World of Darkness or something in this game that I missed? I always wondered why this was in, but could never find out why. As for the voting, keep Mercurio's secret safe and as for LaCroix, let's act neutral.
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Randabis posted:If you could get Volition to make it I would play the hell out of this. After Saints Row IV, that would be pretty easy to do, just tone down the silliness a bit, put some fangs and claws around and you're golden.
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gatz posted:Hey man  about vidyagame mechanics a little? If I go too far, just tell me what to cut.gatz posted:We just have to sneak over there undetected. I put two dots into stealth for this, and it better pay off. I’m pretty sure you found that book on sneaking in Santa Maria, right? Well, what you may not know is this: if you sell a skill book to a vendor, you can turn around and buy it right back from them, read it, and then keep on buying copies until it no longer gives you a benefit. You can use this in Santa Monica to cheaply boost Firearms, Computers, and Stealth to 2 without needing to spend any XP, and there may be further opportunities ahead if you keep an eye out.  Dexterity will also boost your Stealth, and more besides – from memory I was able to complete every mandatory stealth section in the game with only 3 Dexterity and 2 Stealth, although the extra elbow room is definitely noticeable. gatz posted:If we had one more dot in persuasion, we could convince Larry to also give us a discount at his store. In fact, between its boost to Persuasion and the Research requirement for reading skill books, Scholarship is probably one of the most useful skills to sink XP into. Not that that should stop anyone from playing a pure combat monster if they want to, but the little optional boosts here and there really add up over time. And there are a lot of little things to discover. Last time I played through the game, I discovered several little things you can do which earn extra XP that weren't in any guide or FAQ I’ve ever read. Part of why I am enjoying this LP so much is seeing a side of the game I never have before— so thanks again for doing this, gatz.*  ✱ Although you did an incredible job making it look good, I really am glad you’re done with BloodNet and onto a game that rewards your attention better. GrimRevenant fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Feb 11, 2014 |
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gatz posted:Hey man
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GrimRevenant posted:I’m pretty sure you found that book on sneaking in Santa Maria, right? Well, what you may not know is this: if you sell a skill book to a vendor, you can turn around and buy it right back from them, read it, and then keep on buying copies until it no longer gives you a benefit. You can use this in Santa Monica to cheaply boost Firearms, Computers, and Stealth to 2 without needing to spend any XP, and there may be further opportunities ahead if you keep an eye out. Hell, since this absolutely is abusing buggy game mechanics to get free skills, why not go all in and just open the console and type in 'giftxp 1000'?
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Barf Wight posted:
Mersurio seems like a nice enough guy. Second chances don't come often, and we already proved what you can do when you do get one. Likewise, I don't have a good feel for LaCroix yet. He's an rear end in a top hat and clearly manipulating us, but to what ends? We might want in on it later or we might want to blow him off later. For now, stay neutral until we get a better idea. No reason to suck up or piss him off.
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I say rat out Mercurio (only because I've never done it) and suck up to the Prince. Let's get on his good side.
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I love how I'm the only one in favor of giving LaCroix some sass, and even then that's only because I already went the suck-up route.
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TheMcD posted:I love how I'm the only one in favor of giving LaCroix some sass, and even then that's only because I already went the suck-up route. The only major difference between getting on LaCroix's good or bad side is whether you want to live in Santa Monica the entire game or not.
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Tehan posted:Hell, since this absolutely is abusing buggy game mechanics to get free skills, why not go all in and just open the console and type in 'giftxp 1000'? Even if you only get a single use out of them, those manuals can be pretty handy. I realise I didn’t directly answer your question. The answer to why I don’t just use console commands to trivialise the game? It would be boring.  This is hardly cost-free, but I’d definitely rather spend a little more effort and time rounding out my skills at the cost of money than I would spend my precious XP on stuff I don’t have to. It’s not a free lunch, it’s not cheating your way to success, and if you don’t like using an option the game presents then you’re free not to use it.One of my favourite things about (most of) the game, actually. TheMcD posted:I love how I'm the only one in favor of giving LaCroix some sass, and even then that's only because I already went the suck-up route.  GrimRevenant fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Feb 11, 2014 |
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Angry Lobster posted:Don't rat out Mercurio Having him indebted to you it's probably a good idea. Also, LaCroix is your typical chessmaster and won't break a sweat to sacrifice his pawn, but suck up, it's better to have smooth relations with the higher-up bastard. Voting for this as well.
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Barf Wight posted:Sure are.  is Chancellor Séguier and his suite, Charles Le Brun, ca. 1670. Le Brun worked for Louis XIV, and in addition to the part where he either has good taste in art or needs to look like he has good taste in art (this stuff was antiques when he was alive), LaCroix probably approves of the way Le Brun's paintings were designed as visual representations of power. Not sure why he chose that subject matter though; Séguier himself survived a tumultuous period but he ended up disgraced. Perhaps it's the enigmatic expressions of the men in his train that interested LaCroix--instead of the fawning lackeys you expect, they look like they're keeping their own council. HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 08:26 on Feb 11, 2014 |
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I vote you keep Mercurio's secret to exploit at a later date, and suck up like a true Ventrue to LaCroix.
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The last painting is apparently from "Les Campagnes de Louis XIV. Campagne du Roy pendant l’année M.DC.LXXVI" It's Louis XIV dressed in roman armor. Can't find any information about who painted it. I'd say keep the secret and neutral.
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Trust the man on the couch, suck up, and make the two faced comment.
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RichardA posted:Trust the man on the couch, suck up, and make the two faced comment. Voting this too. Even if you haven't got a Sire to bring you into the loop of what being a Venture entails, I like to imagine it coming naturally to Melissa. Backstabby suckup who doesn't give up information that is beneficial for her, but acts like she would tell the Prince everything.
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I have to play a Ventrue every time I play just because of their last set of clothing. Equipment Spoilers: Male / Female Edit: Since I've got these laying around from when I did an LP of this game 4 years ago, here's the clothing for all of the other clans (except Nosferatu and Tremere, I guess I didn't make any images for them.). Brujah: Male / Female Gangrel: Male / Female Malkavian: Male / Female  maybeToreador: Male / Female PureRok fucked around with this message at 12:41 on Feb 11, 2014 |
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Let's keep Mercurio's secret and suck up. No reason to risk a potentially valuable contact, and we're not powerful enough yet to get rid of the Prince, so why antagonize him? Though I wouldn't mind hearing about the other options once we've passed the points of choice. 
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Keep the secret because the man on the couch is our friend/pawn now. And Be neutral because I imagine the Prince will see through bullshit, but still expect us to show some respect.
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