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Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

Republican Vampire posted:

The dog is called Snuffles, which it dismisses as its slave name. It prefers to be called Snowball.

The dog leaves the family to found a new techno-augmented cybernetic canine civilization in episode two.

That is what happened to the dog.

Pretty concise, Morty.

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Relentlessboredomm
Oct 15, 2006

It's Sic Semper Tyrannis. You said, "Ever faithful terrible lizard."
I binged through all of these in a few days and it's loving amazing.


I worry about myself for nodding vigorously during Rick's speech about love and breaking the cycle.




Also the Meseeks was easily the best plot so far.

Chairman Mao
Apr 24, 2004

The Chinese Communist Party is the core of leadership of the whole Chinese people. Without this core, the cause of socialism cannot be victorious.
I have nothing but endless praise for the Mr Meeseeks storyline. It's such a simple, obvious setup that you know exactly how things are going to play out, but that just makes it more engaging. From the minute Rick hands over the Meeseeks box you know things are hosed, it's the moment that the train flies off the tracks, the instant you know that a spectacular disaster is about to happen and you just have to see it.

Or at least that's what I thought before Rick Chronenberg'd the entire world and then abandoned it, kind of made everything else seem like less of a big deal.

Planet Piss
Dec 18, 2006

hey you kids, get out of my moat, it was not meant to be played in

Chairman Mao posted:

I have nothing but endless praise for the Mr Meeseeks storyline. It's such a simple, obvious setup that you know exactly how things are going to play out, but that just makes it more engaging. From the minute Rick hands over the Meeseeks box you know things are hosed, it's the moment that the train flies off the tracks, the instant you know that a spectacular disaster is about to happen and you just have to see it.

Or at least that's what I thought before Rick Chronenberg'd the entire world and then abandoned it, kind of made everything else seem like less of a big deal.

The most beautiful part of the Meeseeks storyline is that Summer and Morty's mom ask for these nebulous, vague ideas, which end up being simple for the Meeseeks. Morty's dad asks for something relatively simple and almost gets people killed for it. Everything I've thought would be cliche in this show has been turned on its head and I love it!

I drew a Mr. Meeseeks a while ago too:

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
I wonder if the vice principal ever got his number from Summer :ohdear:

Chairman Mao posted:

I know you guys edited it out but I absolutely love the idea that the people making this show live and work in perpetual darkness, their offices lit only by the bleak glow of their wacom tablets.

I must have passed the Starburns office a dozen times in the past, it's by a bunch of other non-descript offices in a Surburban part of Burbank, kinda blows my mind a bit how much you more little things you discover here

Alan Smithee fucked around with this message at 10:02 on Feb 14, 2014

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

Chairman Mao posted:

I have nothing but endless praise for the Mr Meeseeks storyline. It's such a simple, obvious setup that you know exactly how things are going to play out, but that just makes it more engaging. From the minute Rick hands over the Meeseeks box you know things are hosed, it's the moment that the train flies off the tracks, the instant you know that a spectacular disaster is about to happen and you just have to see it.
He exploded

trust me, they're ok with it

Buzkashi
Feb 4, 2003
College Slice

Planet Piss posted:

The most beautiful part of the Meeseeks storyline is that Summer and Morty's mom ask for these nebulous, vague ideas, which end up being simple for the Meeseeks. Morty's dad asks for something relatively simple and almost gets people killed for it. Everything I've thought would be cliche in this show has been turned on its head and I love it!

It's such an incredibly simple exchange but literally the hardest I've laughed at this show was

"Is he keeping his shoulders straight?"
"Ooooh, he's trying!"

because it's actually hilariously foreboding.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

The Mr. Meeseeks character is one that absolutely should not have worked, yet somehow the voice acting and design just cracked me the gently caress up. That's talent right there.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

mind the walrus posted:

The Mr. Meeseeks character is one that absolutely should not have worked, yet somehow the voice acting and design just cracked me the gently caress up. That's talent right there.

Well, he roped me into this!

Well, him over there, he roped me into this!

Don't look at me, he roped me into this!

Brightman
Feb 24, 2005

I've seen fun you people wouldn't believe.
Tiki torches on fire off the summit of Kilauea.
I watched disco balls glitter in the dark near the Brandenburg Gate.
All those moments will be lost in time, like crowds in rain.

Time to sleep.

mind the walrus posted:

The Mr. Meeseeks character is one that absolutely should not have worked, yet somehow the voice acting and design just cracked me the gently caress up. That's talent right there.

The long string of "Well he roped me into this" really shouldn't have been funny, but was hilarious to me and my friends mainly because it goes on for a while.

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin
Hey what the hell is up with this break?! This is literally the funniest thing to come in years.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer

Brightman posted:

The long string of "Well he roped me into this" really shouldn't have been funny, but was hilarious to me and my friends mainly because it goes on for a while.

I think what made it brilliant was they always sounded like they were close to snapping, so the juxtaposition of sounding like he's about to open fire with being genuinely helpful and kind starts as funny and only gets funnier when they really do start to lose it.

LeJackal
Apr 5, 2011

Eifert Posting posted:

I think what made it brilliant was they always sounded like they were close to snapping, so the juxtaposition of sounding like he's about to open fire with being genuinely helpful and kind starts as funny and only gets funnier when they really do start to lose it.

The verbal tics and unrepentant enthusiasm for everything also really killed it. Even the horrific pain of existence was made humorous!

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug

DarkCrawler posted:

Hey what the hell is up with this break?! This is literally the funniest thing to come in years.

Dan and Justin said that they're on break because they need to finish up the second half of the season.

Brightman
Feb 24, 2005

I've seen fun you people wouldn't believe.
Tiki torches on fire off the summit of Kilauea.
I watched disco balls glitter in the dark near the Brandenburg Gate.
All those moments will be lost in time, like crowds in rain.

Time to sleep.

Eifert Posting posted:

I think what made it brilliant was they always sounded like they were close to snapping, so the juxtaposition of sounding like he's about to open fire with being genuinely helpful and kind starts as funny and only gets funnier when they really do start to lose it.

LeJackal posted:

The verbal tics and unrepentant enthusiasm for everything also really killed it. Even the horrific pain of existence was made humorous!

The way they started to develop into slightly deeper characters due to prolonged existence and started having debates with each other and showing more emotional range all the while still saying "I'm Mr. Meseeks. Look at me." was great.

If there really was a Meseeks Box I'd probably burn through a bunch of them just asking questions like why do they say "Look at me." so much just to see what their answers would be. Other questions would be "How do you know about the box?" and "Could a Meseeks do a job for a day or would the 8 hours of work be too torturous?" but only one question per Meseeks, any answer would be acceptable. I'm not a monster, like Jerry.

I'd probably also get lazy and use them as an egg-timer: "Stand on your head for 12 minutes."

Brightman fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Apr 17, 2014

ultramiraculous
Nov 12, 2003

"No..."
Grimey Drawer

Brightman posted:

If there really was a Meseeks Box I'd probably burn through a bunch of them just asking questions like why do they say "Look at me." so much just to see what their answers would be. Other questions would be "How do you know about the box?" and "Could a Meseeks do a job for a day or would the 8 hours of work be too torturous?" but only one question per Meseeks, any answer would be acceptable. I'm not a monster, like Jerry.

Oh yeah, asking deep, maybe unanswerable philosophical questions about the nature of what it means to be a Meseeks doesn't make you a monster. :colbert:

Brightman
Feb 24, 2005

I've seen fun you people wouldn't believe.
Tiki torches on fire off the summit of Kilauea.
I watched disco balls glitter in the dark near the Brandenburg Gate.
All those moments will be lost in time, like crowds in rain.

Time to sleep.

ultramiraculous posted:

Oh yeah, asking deep, maybe unanswerable philosophical questions about the nature of what it means to be a Meseeks doesn't make you a monster. :colbert:

Any answer would be acceptable though, including "I don't know". :colbert:

Edit: VV No, but it does fulfill the request. If they don't know the answer, there's not much that can be done, so while it would suck, them's the breaks.

Brightman fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Feb 14, 2014

Irish Joe
Jul 23, 2007

by Lowtax

Brightman posted:

Any answer would be acceptable though, including "I don't know". :colbert:

That's not very helpful.

Typical
Mar 19, 2007

Planet Piss posted:

The most beautiful part of the Meeseeks storyline is that Summer and Morty's mom ask for these nebulous, vague ideas, which end up being simple for the Meeseeks. Morty's dad asks for something relatively simple and almost gets people killed for it. Everything I've thought would be cliche in this show has been turned on its head and I love it!

I drew a Mr. Meeseeks a while ago too:


you should tweet that to justin or the facebook page and they might feature it.


Chairman Mao posted:

I absolutely love the idea that the people making this show live and work in perpetual darkness, their offices lit only by the bleak glow of their wacom tablets.

Most studios are pretty much this. but its a happy and relaxing atmosphere.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

HorseRenoir posted:

Dan and Justin said that they're on break because they need to finish up the second half of the season.

Hopefully, this won't turn into a production fiasco like Ren & Stimpy.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Brightman posted:

The way the started to develop into slightly deeper characters do to prolonged existence and started having debates with each other and showing more emotional range all the while still saying "I'm Mr. Meseeks. Look at me." was great.

If there really was a Meseeks Box I'd probably burn through a bunch of them just asking questions like why do they say "Look at me." so much just to see what their answers would be. Other questions would be "How do you know about the box?" and "Could a Meseeks do a job for a day or would the 8 hours of work be too torturous?" but only one question per Meseeks, any answer would be acceptable. I'm not a monster, like Jerry.

I'd probably also get lazy and use them as an egg-timer: "Stand on your head for 12 minutes."

MeSeeks seem to have a lot of knowledge and intelligence, from Psychotherapy to help Beth become a more complete woman, to public persuasive speaking to make Summer more popular and the finer points of golf. I'd bet you could ask a MeSeeks to solve world hunger, cure cancer or bring peace to the middle east and they could do it.

The keeping things simple thing is probably just a precaution against stupid people like Jerry.

LeJackal
Apr 5, 2011

MariusLecter posted:

MeSeeks seem to have a lot of knowledge and intelligence, from Psychotherapy to help Beth become a more complete woman, to public persuasive speaking to make Summer more popular and the finer points of golf. I'd bet you could ask a MeSeeks to solve world hunger, cure cancer or bring peace to the middle east and they could do it.

The keeping things simple thing is probably just a precaution against stupid people like Jerry.

The problem is that a lot of the more complex situations involve long time frames, and MeSeeks do not enjoy prolonged existence. You'd need to sub-divide large tasks into smaller, less time consuming ones.

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

I thought this show was supposed to be garbage because I saw a pilot where the doc just kept telling the kid to suck his balls for 15 minutes. Turns out the actual show is good!

JesusFists
Feb 14, 2005

ong-time listener, first-time caller.


The Meseeks is just a really fun concept to work with. It's been mentioned that it's kind of a sci-fi adaptation of a genie, but the absurd differences from that trope are what causes it to be so funny. Considering how they're summoned and their purpose, you'd expect them to have some sort of otherworldly abilities, but as it happens they have almost no tools besides their charisma and basic knowledge. So while they're great at changing how others view their summoner (Summer) or how their summoner views herself (Beth), they trip up when they're tasked with making a miniscule substantive change in someone (Jerry). Meseeks could probably get Jerry elected president, but they're powerless to make him even a slightly less mediocre person.

MariusLecter posted:

I'd bet you could ask a MeSeeks to solve world hunger, cure cancer or bring peace to the middle east and they could do it.

LeJackal posted:

The problem is that a lot of the more complex situations involve long time frames, and MeSeeks do not enjoy prolonged existence. You'd need to sub-divide large tasks into smaller, less time consuming ones.
"Meseeks, try to solve world hunger for 24 hours, then summon another Meseeks and bring him up to speed, giving him the same instructions as I gave you." Given Meseeks' style, I picture they'd work by speechifying to convince everyone to make this our #1 priority. Not saying it would work, of course, but I'd love to see where the world would be 10 years into that. I could see the entire world being run by the Red Cross maybe, so horrible bureaucracy and overcrowding, plus accelerated global warming from turning everything into cropland. But hey, at least no one's starving!

Eat My Ghastly Ass
Jul 24, 2007

This show really has no right to be as funny as it is. I binge through the current six episodes at least once a week, and there have been times I've watched episodes twice in one day. I NEED MORE.

The MeSeeks have probably been my favorite plot line so far, their voices are just so ridiculous.

Buzkashi posted:

It's such an incredibly simple exchange but literally the hardest I've laughed at this show was

"Is he keeping his shoulders straight?"
"Ooooh, he's trying!"


This scene absolutely killed me.

RaspberryCommie
May 3, 2008

Stop! My penis can only get so erect.
This has probably already been posted in here but:

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

RaspberryCommie posted:

This has probably already been posted in here but:


He really gets fixated on that theoretical url at the end there.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


RaspberryCommie posted:

This has probably already been posted in here but:



I don't think this scene will ever not be funny to me. Just staring at the gif made me laugh out loud.

http://video.adultswim.com/rick-and-morty/not-real-life.html

I just found this old promo. Watching it made me fall in love with the show all over again so I thought I'd share it.

CuddleChunks
Sep 18, 2004

This show is hosed up in the extreme.


and now I'm hungry for apples.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
Jesus how is this the greatest thing ever made?

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


I’ve been thinking about the psychological make-up of a meseek and this is what I’ve come up with:

Meseeks are born (so to speak) with a large amount of inherent knowledge.

From the moment it comes into existence a Meseek knows how to talk, how to walk, how it was made, how to open pickle jars, and so on. It is also incapable of feeling of happiness, yet is still aware of what happiness is and that it will never experience it.

Instead of being driven by a desire to grow, learn, and reproduce the way humans are a Meseek is instead motivated by two overwhelming compulsions:

A) Fulfill an assigned task (any task)
B) Die.

Compulsion A overrides compulsion B which explains why Meseeks don’t simply stop breathing or walk in front of a car once they’re summoned and fight back when attacked. Meseeks are unable to stop thinking about compulsion B even as they fulfill compulsion A.

When compulsion A is satisfied a Meseek instantly moves on to compulsion B and blows himself up.

An inability to fulfill these compulsions will rapidly drive a Meseek to madness.


Sidenote: I’ve decided that creating a Meseek is an inherently evil act. No matter what you have a Meseek do for you or how much good it causes you’re still intentionally causing pain to a sentient creature for personal gain since meseeks cannot exist without suffering.

Space Cadet Omoly fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Feb 15, 2014

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver
I'm wondering though, are the Meseeks born with all of the knowledge they could possibly need to complete almost any request, or do they perhaps access only knowledge that they need to complete the task they have been given upon it's request from some sort of Meeseeks hive-mind database?

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
"I really Croenberged up the world" is the best line I've ever heard.

edit: hahahaha holy gently caress Rick portaling into the new universe was the best thing I've ever seen.

pentyne fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Feb 15, 2014

Relentlessboredomm
Oct 15, 2006

It's Sic Semper Tyrannis. You said, "Ever faithful terrible lizard."

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

No matter what you have a Meseek do for you or how much good it causes you’re still intentionally causing pain to a sentient creature for personal gain since meseeks cannot exist without suffering.

The same argument could be made for bringing a child into the world but unlike a Meseeks we have no directives to focus on. It's all chaos and suffering.

LeJackal
Apr 5, 2011

Relentlessboredomm posted:

The same argument could be made for bringing a child into the world but unlike a Meseeks we have no directives to focus on. It's all chaos and suffering.

The obvious solution is species-wide suicide.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

JesusFists posted:

The Meseeks is just a really fun concept to work with. It's been mentioned that it's kind of a sci-fi adaptation of a genie, but the absurd differences from that trope are what causes it to be so funny. Considering how they're summoned and their purpose, you'd expect them to have some sort of otherworldly abilities, but as it happens they have almost no tools besides their charisma and basic knowledge. So while they're great at changing how others view their summoner (Summer) or how their summoner views herself (Beth), they trip up when they're tasked with making a miniscule substantive change in someone (Jerry). Meseeks could probably get Jerry elected president, but they're powerless to make him even a slightly less mediocre person.

Eh, I disagree somewhat. They fail with Jerry because Jerry is an easily frustrated rear end in a top hat with no patience or capacity to improve on his own. Even when he finally succeeds it's only because his wife does everything short of grab his testicles and move him around like a marionette. I imagine with most people they'd be able to do substantive changes much more easily.

Relentlessboredomm
Oct 15, 2006

It's Sic Semper Tyrannis. You said, "Ever faithful terrible lizard."

LeJackal posted:

The obvious solution is species-wide suicide.

We're on our way. Just be patient.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Relentlessboredomm posted:

The same argument could be made for bringing a child into the world but unlike a Meseeks we have no directives to focus on. It's all chaos and suffering.

I’m trying and failing to come up with an argument against this. You’re right, suffering is an inevitable part of human existence and propagation of the species prolongs that suffering indefinitely.



Rick’s “Don’t think about it” advice makes more and more sense the longer you think about something.

LeJackal
Apr 5, 2011

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Rick’s “Don’t think about it” advice makes more and more sense the longer you think about something.

He never explicitly states it, but I am getting the message that low-grade semi-functional alcoholism is probably also important.

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Planet Piss
Dec 18, 2006

hey you kids, get out of my moat, it was not meant to be played in

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

I’ve been thinking about the psychological make-up of a meseek and this is what I’ve come up with:

Meseeks are born (so to speak) with a large amount of inherent knowledge.

From the moment it comes into existence a Meseek knows how to talk, how to walk, how it was made, how to open pickle jars, and so on. It is also incapable of feeling of happiness, yet is still aware of what happiness is and that it will never experience it.

Instead of being driven by a desire to grow, learn, and reproduce the way humans are a Meseek is instead motivated by two overwhelming compulsions:

A) Fulfill an assigned task (any task)
B) Die.

Compulsion A overrides compulsion B which explains why Meseeks don’t simply stop breathing or walk in front of a car once they’re summoned and fight back when attacked. Meseeks are unable to stop thinking about compulsion B even as they fulfill compulsion A.

When compulsion A is satisfied a Meseek instantly moves on to compulsion B and blows himself up.

An inability to fulfill these compulsions will rapidly drive a Meseek to madness.


Sidenote: I’ve decided that creating a Meseek is an inherently evil act. No matter what you have a Meseek do for you or how much good it causes you’re still intentionally causing pain to a sentient creature for personal gain since meseeks cannot exist without suffering.

It doesn't seem like they CAN die without fulfilling their purpose. They were mauling and dismembering each other before they decided to kill Jerry, but they all survived it. It's like you could even chop them all to pieces and as long as they haven't granted your wish they'll keep living. It's chilling to think about. That's that nihilism ingrained in the show that I adore.

Typical posted:

you should tweet that to justin or the facebook page and they might feature it.

I just did so, I hope he gets a kick out of it. Thanks for suggesting it!

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