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bobkatt013 posted:Yeah, but midseason they should have known that it was not going to happen, and find a way to get the powers to a more managable level. Peter unable to mimic when not near the person he's mimicking. Well, that was easy.
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Didn't the eventually make it "One power at a time"? That made sense. And as bad as Sylar's flip flopping was at least it would give us some cool scenes when he he'd inevitably go evil again and do some massacring. Mohinder's flip flopping was the worst and never made any sense with the plot
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Feb 24, 2014 18:41
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Once again I'm kinda baffled anyone watched that show long enough to explain in detail how bad it got.
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Feb 24, 2014 18:56
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Opopanax posted:Didn't the eventually make it "One power at a time"? That made sense. That's all well and good until that one power can be control over space and time.
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Feb 24, 2014 19:05
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Opopanax posted:Didn't the eventually make it "One power at a time"? That made sense. Yeah but then I think he used that to take Sylar's power which let him do whatever he wanted again.
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Feb 24, 2014 19:09
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Lurdiak posted:Once again I'm kinda baffled anyone watched that show long enough to explain in detail how bad it got. Trainwreck analogy.
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Feb 24, 2014 19:36
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Probably the same reason people watched 10 seasons of Smallville.
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Urdnot Fire posted:Probably the same reason people watched 10 seasons of Smallville. People watched it for the moments that they would mention the Superman mythos or bring in a DC character. Heroes did not have any of those things. That is right Heroes is shitter than Smallville.
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Feb 24, 2014 19:48
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Lurdiak posted:Once again I'm kinda baffled anyone watched that show long enough to explain in detail how bad it got.
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Feb 24, 2014 19:53
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Dexo posted:Trainwreck analogy. Also explains why I tuned in every week for Under the Dome.
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Feb 24, 2014 19:53
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I saw all of Smallville and Heroes. I barely remember anything about Heroes. Perhaps for the best. I started thinking about it again and things are flooding back.
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Feb 24, 2014 19:59
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ToastyPotato posted:I saw all of Smallville and Heroes. I barely remember anything about Heroes. Perhaps for the best. I started thinking about it again and things are flooding back. Do you remember West?
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Feb 24, 2014 20:00
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bobkatt013 posted:Do you remember West? Nnnnngh. He was friends with Claire? Is that the same kid that could fly? Played by the kid who played John Connor on the Sarah Connor Chronicles?
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I watched it right through to the end because I had some kind of stockholm syndrome and kept expecting it to get better, and didn't want to have to catch up when it did. And I'll watch this new one, too 
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ToastyPotato posted:Nnnnngh. He was friends with Claire? Is that the same kid that could fly? Played by the kid who played John Connor on the Sarah Connor Chronicles? Her flying boyfriend in season 2. You are mixing two characters up. One was not that bad and the kid who left the show for SCC. The other was loving West and one of the worst parts of season 2.
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He pushed her off a cliff so he could subsequently catch her to show her she could trust him. She found this romantic.
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bobkatt013 posted:Her flying boyfriend in season 2. You are mixing two characters up. One was not that bad and the kid who left the show for SCC. The other was loving West and one of the worst parts of season 2. I still maintain that the worst part of season 2 was the South American siblings. That whole subplot was a huge waste of time.
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ToastyPotato posted:I still maintain that the worst part of season 2 was the South American siblings. That whole subplot was a huge waste of time. The chick with the bleeding eyes that was never mentioned again after season 2? Season 2 still had the glorious moment where Peter left his irish girlfriend in the plague hellhole and never went back. So who knows what happened to her since ??
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Strangely enough turning Elixir into two characters just makes two terrible characters instead of one.
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ToastyPotato posted:I still maintain that the worst part of season 2 was the South American siblings. That whole subplot was a huge waste of time. Maaaaayaaaaaaa! Aaaaalllleeeejaaaaaannndrooo! I thought they wasted a lot of potential with Micah's cousin (whatever her name was). Yeah a lot of it was  but I thought her power was cool and not too powerful, and they could have done something better than what they did.
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Error 404 posted:Maaaaayaaaaaaa! Better than watching WWE and doing awful wrestling moves?
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bobkatt013 posted:Her flying boyfriend in season 2. You are mixing two characters up. One was not that bad and the kid who left the show for SCC. The other was loving West and one of the worst parts of season 2. Thomas Dekker's role in the show is only hilarious for the fact that despite it being obvious that the character was gay from the get go he gave out when they were going to reveal it in a later episode and they had to change the character to straight.
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bobkatt013 posted:Better than watching WWE and doing awful wrestling moves? Well I thought the taskmaster style mimicking was cool. 
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Waterhaul posted:Thomas Dekker's role in the show is only hilarious for the fact that despite it being obvious that the character was gay from the get go he gave out when they were going to reveal it in a later episode and they had to change the character to straight. IIRC, he had a quasi-coming out scene that actually did air on the show, where he talked about being "different" or something without using the words. NBC at the time was running text recaps of every episode on their website, and the description of the scene originally read something like "Zack tells Claire that he's gay." Dekker's people made them change the text to something else. To this day, I think his defense is that he thought the character was intended to be straight and played him that way, and didn't want to "change" the character's sexuality midway through the run. Yeah.
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Barry Convex posted:IIRC, he had a quasi-coming out scene that actually did air on the show, where he talked about being "different" or something without using the words. NBC at the time was running text recaps of every episode on their website, and the description of the scene originally read something like "Zack tells Claire that he's gay." I thought it was some bullshit that his manager told him playing a gay character would ruin his chances for future roles?
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bobkatt013 posted:I thought it was some bullshit that his manager told him playing a gay character would ruin his chances for future roles? It's a he-said, she-said thing. Bryan Fuller said back in 2007 that it was always the plan for Zach to be gay, and that Dekker's management backed out over fears that playing a gay teen would kill his shot at the Sarah Connor Chronicles pilot. Dekker still claims that the character was originally written as straight and that he only refused to play gay because it wasn't set up in earlier episodes.
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Endless Mike posted:A forum I used to post on had a thread devoted to people watching it just to poo poo on it. And that forum... was TVIV.
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bobkatt013 posted:People watched it for the moments that they would mention the Superman mythos or bring in a DC character. Heroes did not have any of those things. That is right Heroes is shitter than Smallville. Heroes after Season 1 is shittier than Smallville.
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:Heroes after Season 1 is shittier than Smallville. Woah, lets not say things we can't take back.
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Dexo posted:Woah, lets not say things we can't take back. The last couple of Smallville when it became JLA was not that bad. It had some lovely episodes, but it was watchable. That is more then could be said of Heroes.
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Dexo posted:Woah, lets not say things we can't take back. Smallville has Kristin Kreuk and Tom Welling. Heroes Season 1 only has Milo Ventimiglia he is that bad.
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:Smallville has Kristin Kreuk and Tom Welling. Heroes Season 1 only has Milo Ventimiglia. Yes but John Glover and Michael Rosenbaum were always watchable.
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bobkatt013 posted:The chick with the bleeding eyes that was never mentioned again after season 2? Season 2 still had the glorious moment where Peter left his irish girlfriend in the plague hellhole and never went back. So who knows what happened to her since ?? I'm pretty sure Sylar ended up killing the eye bleeding girl. The Irish girlfriend left in the hell future was really weird because of how unnecessary the whole thing was.
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404GoonNotFound posted:And that forum... was TVIV. I don't think I've ever even opened TVIV intentionally.
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muscles like this? posted:The Irish girlfriend left in the hell future was really weird because of how unnecessary the whole thing was. A lot of season 2 got hosed up by the writers strike. It got cut short and a lot of stuff that was set up didn't get followed through on
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^^^ Couldn't they have picked up the pieces later? The old Heroes threads probably wouldn't survive today. Smallville I don't know. I can only base this on how much a few people whine very loudly about other people criticizing Agents of SHIELD in its thread. It's kind of a bummer.
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Heroes season 2 wasted Kristin Bell. Not sure how much more you can indict a show than that.
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jscolon2.0 posted:Heroes season 2 wasted Kristin Bell. Not sure how much more you can indict a show than that. I forgot she was on the show dammit.
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If I remember correctly Kring took a lot of the blame for screwing up S2, then started to fix things when the writers strike went into effect. Then I guess they wanted to start fresh with S3 (which still wound up being mostly garbage). S4 was ok, mainly due to Robert Knepper.
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