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sethsez
Jul 14, 2006

He's soooo dreamy...

Zyklon B Zombie posted:

Worst was seeing Kompressor live. He a CD player and a distortion pedal and a mic. And the distortion pedal broke. And it was daylight saving time, so the bar was closing early and he had to skip a bunch of tracks on his CD player. Then he got winded and sat down while he sand the rest of the songs.

This is exactly what I would expect from a Kompressor performance.

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copshootcop
Aug 4, 2013

Omi-Polari posted:

^ Yup.

Gloomy goth folk music.

In a nutshell, after WW2 the far right splintered into a million pieces. Some groups tried to reform themselves into friendly fascists ("we're not Nazis, we're national patriots" etc.); others turned into a parody of the Third Reich with swastika tattoos -- the whole nine yards.

Neofolk emerged as the musical expression of a third splinter, where you had the brainier and depressive types saying "all is lost, the dream is dead. We're doomed." And they argued that one should disengage politically, retreat inwards, cultivate an "aristocracy of the soul," drink wine and put up candelabras in your apartment and sing wistful songs about Europe on the decline. It's like lifestyle Nazism.

Think of it like the reverse mirror opposite of Nazi hate rock. Where hate rock is vulgar, populist and openly bigoted -- but also hides itself -- the concerts are held in basements and kept secret, neofolk is sophisticated and elitist, but hides in plain sight. You wouldn't get what they were singing about if you weren't read up on esoteric Nazis like Julius Evola. It just sounds "artsy."

But some of it is more explicit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8jk5v8NCNo

I know its wrong, but despite having eventually realized Douglas Pierce's politics I still like some of Death in June's music. That being said I'll never feel the need to own more than the compilation album that I currently have. Oddly enough as a leftist I can in some strange way relate to the extreme pessimism expressed in his music.

*edit
I still feel far worse for ever bothering with anything Boyd Rice ever did. Well aside from easy listening for the hard of hearing, because Frank Tovey is awesome.

copshootcop fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Feb 21, 2014

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

copshootcop posted:

I know its wrong, but despite having eventually realized Douglas Pierce's politics I still like some of Death in June's music. That being said I'll never feel the need to own more than the compilation album that I currently have. Oddly enough as a leftist I can in some strange way relate to the extreme pessimism expressed in his music.
Well, I don't want to guilt anybody out of it and my attitude is listen to what you want to listen to. People should think critically about it but I don't make much of a connection between politics and aesthetic quality. A lot of political left-wing music I think is really unlistenable and bad. I'm talking about folk songs about labor unions and stuff. Blegh. I just don't like the sound and the mood of it. Doesn't mean I'm against labor unions. Just the same, because you like Death in June doesn't mean you agree with the politics.

One thing I forgot to mention is that there's the added layer of boycotts and pickets at DiJ shows. I'm not sure if these still happen very often. But I find these hard to justify since the whole point behind neo-folk music is that it's "apoliteic" and about deliberately disengaging from politics. They're not organizing for anything.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
"Apolitical" is a nonsense word, especially when you're using it as cover to push fascist or crypto-fascist ideas.

a cyborg mug
Mar 8, 2010



:siren:Stream LAIBACH - SPECTRE in full:siren:

Eat Liver! :drat:

a cyborg mug fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Feb 25, 2014

deong
Jun 13, 2001

I'll see you in heck!

boo_radley posted:

The Denver tickets for SP are turning out to be more expensive than I expected. Has the show been crazy awesome so far?

Did you make it out last night? A friend had 93.3 tickets and was sick, so I got them FREE. Pretty awesome since I was planning to buy mine at the door. They had the Ogden pretty packed, I assume it was close to a sell out show. I thought it was pretty great. I've never been a huge SP fan, I like Mythmaker, which feels like the least skinny puppy album maybe?

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Jesus, but this is great. But hell, what did I expect?

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

deong posted:

I've never been a huge SP fan, I like Mythmaker, which feels like the least skinny puppy album maybe?

Actually yeah. I think Mythmaker stands out more than Rabies does.

sethsez
Jul 14, 2006

He's soooo dreamy...

Mythmaker and The Process are definitely the two biggest outliers in SP's history. Rabies has a few odd songs, but most of it fits right in.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Also The Process is the best thing they ever did. Mythmaker the opposite.

(I love hanDover and Weapon for what it's worth.)

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

The Process is definitely one of my favorites. The fact that the band was coming apart at the seams comes across in the music somehow.

Sizone
Sep 13, 2007

by LadyAmbien
All this Denver talk reminds me. My buddy got a track on the latest Metropolis Records compilation. It's too bad that 1: Metropolis is loving terrible and 2: No matter what else he does he will always carry the stigmata of being a dude who used to be in Velvet Acid Christ.

http://www.metropolis-mailorder.com/product.php?prodnum=MET+936

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

Sizone posted:

All this Denver talk reminds me. My buddy got a track on the latest Metropolis Records compilation. It's too bad that 1: Metropolis is loving terrible and 2: No matter what else he does he will always carry the stigmata of being a dude who used to be in Velvet Acid Christ.

Awesome box set. I hope you meant stigma unless they took the Christ bit too literally.

SacrificialGoat
Oct 8, 2003

Catjaw is a hero of the people
What's with all the Metropolis hate, anyway?

Molestationary Store
May 21, 2007

Dunno, they've had some cool bands on their roster. Probably still do at the moment.

a cyborg mug
Mar 8, 2010



Been listening to the Spectre stream a lot, here are some incoherent ramblings about it.

gently caress this is a good album, loving hell! Couple of weaker tracks there like Walk With Me and No History, and I don't really think the latter half of Resistance Is Futile fits the album all that well, but drat if this isn't a band/entity that can actually TRULY reinvent itself over and over again. I mean, it always sounds like Laibach, because nothing else on the planet sounds like this, but tracks like We Are Millions And Millions Are One are just so far away from what you'd expect from this band that it's just mindblowing. Didn't like The Whistleblowers at first listen, and I still think Fras's vocals are mixed way too loud, but it's really a chillingly rousing song and now I can't stop listening to it. Eat Liver! loving kicks rear end, there's a swing to it that Laibach just never had before. Still love Eurovision to death. Koran is probably one of the most beautiful and haunting songs ever by Laibach.

I think the mood here is extremely interesting for Laibach. Laibach has always been mostly threatening, or, occasionally (for example on Volk and some tracks here and there), hopeful or disappointed-sounding, but here Laibach sounds kind of "tired", exhausted. Not at ALL in the musical sense, mind you, but more like exhausted of the world. But there's still a glimmer of hope. I dunno. That's just what it makes me think of. I think what I'm talking about is summed up pretty well in Americana when Fras goes "Do it with a feeling" in his best :geno: voice.

Also the album is just straight-up synth porn, amazing stuff in the technical sense. I guess it's a very logical continuation of the live sound Laibach has been working with for the last couple of years, especially Bossanova sounds kind of like something they could've worked out from their cover of Warm Leatherette or something.

Can't wait to hear the bonus tracks on the limited edition. Monday :allears:

Laibach good you guys. Laibach good.

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost
Obscure band time! If you like EBM, you should listen to Groupe T because they're not very well known, but sound amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kt-HjH3qaE

W424
Oct 21, 2010

Danger - Octopus! posted:

Obscure band time! If you like EBM, you should listen to Groupe T because they're not very well known, but sound amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kt-HjH3qaE

That was lovely <3

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Ted Phelps says Imperative Reaction is done and he's leaving music behind after one more album + tour. He's been saying it since November, I just finally happened to notice a Facebook status about it.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

teethgrinder posted:

Ted Phelps says Imperative Reaction is done and he's leaving music behind after one more album + tour. He's been saying it since November, I just finally happened to notice a Facebook status about it.
Aw. I like them. Any reason why? They always pushed themselves hard. Maybe too much.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Bunch of musings on the band Facebook page, but he at one point says he's changing his focus to family and his other career. I have no idea what his other career is.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
Information Technology, one assumes.

The Cleaner
Jul 18, 2008

I WILL DEVOUR YOUR BALLS!
:quagmire:
It's always interesting when you realize these drug addled insane industrial frontmen often have families and day jobs. From what I'm told:

- Al Jorgensen and Raymond Watts both have daughters.
- Cevin Key was the first male cashier at a Safeway.
- Trent Reznor used to scrub toilets at a recording studio.

I can only imagine what some current lesser-known bands do in their Mon - Fri life.

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

The Cleaner posted:

I can only imagine what some current lesser-known bands do in their Mon - Fri life.

The guy who left Covenant (Clas?) was a teacher, wasn't he?

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

The Seabound lyricist is a professor of Psychology and the composer is an entertainment lawyer in LA (same firm as where he previously worked in Germany). His moving to California is the main reason the last album took so long.

a cyborg mug
Mar 8, 2010



The Cleaner posted:

I can only imagine what some current lesser-known bands do in their Mon - Fri life.

Well, spill the beans :colbert:

Nowadays this stuff always just makes me think of Trent Reznor changing diapers. I can't get the image out of my head. Help

edit: also I know for a fact that the Ad·ver·sary guy does nothing but sit on his rear end all day and tweet

a cyborg mug fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Mar 3, 2014

Entropist
Dec 1, 2007
I'm very stupid.

teethgrinder posted:

The Seabound lyricist is a professor of Psychology
Everything makes sense now! :v:

Twiin
Nov 11, 2003

King of Suck!

CAT rear end now!!! posted:

Well, spill the beans :colbert:

Nowadays this stuff always just makes me think of Trent Reznor changing diapers. I can't get the image out of my head. Help

edit: also I know for a fact that the Ad·ver·sary guy does nothing but sit on his rear end all day and tweet

a cyborg mug
Mar 8, 2010



The limited edition Spectre bonus track Just Say No! is essentially a Laibach hip hop song with Milan Fras rapping and it's exactly as amazing as you'd think

Also The Parade sounds like an old, OLD school KMFDM track (actually I dunno, why did that make me think of KMFDM? More like Alle gegen alle redux)? Love on The Beat is great too, and the See That My Grave Is Kept Clean cover will probably make WAT fans really happy. It owns, it all owns

a cyborg mug fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Mar 3, 2014

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost
The Whistleblowers has a video now. A great video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6Mx2mxpaCY

samurai slowdown
Jun 11, 2006

POWER UP

The Singing Chav posted:

Dunno, they've had some cool bands on their roster. Probably still do at the moment.

I'm having a hard time believing that even at their worst, Metropolis has done anything bad enough to snatch the Burger King crowns from TVT era Wax Trax, Cleopatra or Invisible.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 hours!
Metropolis has Army of the Universe and Aesthetic Perfection signed, so I guess you could hate them just for that, Idunno. Outside of that, they've always been generous with promotional material, so I don't see much of a reason to hate them unless you dislike Dave Heckman specifically or you just want to hate on the most mainstream label within a niche. My only criticism of Metropolis is that at times they've made their umbrella too wide and signed bands that I just thought were just kinda neither-here-nor-there synthpop/rock. Dope Stars Inc. is one that sticks out in my mind.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

I find it odd that Birthday Massacre is crowd-sourcing funding for a new album "in concert with Metropolis".

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 hours!
I don't know all the ins and outs, but a lot of individuals and companies are doing Kickstarters even though they have no problem with the capital. It's a promotional tactic as much as anything.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
Yeah, once you've given to a Kickstarter, you're committed and involved in a way that, however shallow, encourages you to identify with the project. It's a great promotional tool to keep devoted fans involved.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Yeah I was over-thinking it.

Also as a massive fan as Birthday Massacre from their early days ... I just couldn't be any more ambivalent now.

Crashbee
May 15, 2007

Stupid people are great at winning arguments, because they're too stupid to realize they've lost.

teethgrinder posted:

Yeah I was over-thinking it.

Also as a massive fan as Birthday Massacre from their early days ... I just couldn't be any more ambivalent now.

Any particular reason why? I think it's pretty neat that they're basically auctioning off promo stuff.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Nothing and Nowhere was new and exciting to me. And then Violet was generally better in every way. Even the songs that were reissued were mixed better.

By Walking With Strangers, it was OKAY, but not exceptional. And they've just gotten samey-sounding to me since. I don't really care to support a new album.

Twiin
Nov 11, 2003

King of Suck!

teethgrinder posted:

I find it odd that Birthday Massacre is crowd-sourcing funding for a new album "in concert with Metropolis".

If you're not an A-List artist then Metropolis probably isn't going to fund the record of your dreams. If you want anything fancy you've got to pony up.

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teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Twiin posted:

If you're not an A-List artist then Metropolis probably isn't going to fund the record of your dreams. If you want anything fancy you've got to pony up.
That's why I was confused. I thought The Birthday Massacre were A-list, for Metropolis.

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