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Quite a bit of hate towards Jack, guess I've got some tasting to do.
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Keyser S0ze posted:In the summer I'll freeze or ice bath a few small tumblers for whiskey or use the tiniest ice cube. I do the same thing when I sip an anejo tequila like 7 Leguas. Room and booze temps in the 80's just too hot for me. In the summer I prefer either lighter or drier bourbons. Ice and cold just ruin flavors for me, and there is a masochistic thrill to being outside in 100 plus heat and humidity with some OGD.
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Mar 9, 2014 21:36
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Shif posted:Quite a bit of hate towards Jack, guess I've got some tasting to do. A lot of the hate towards Jack comes from the fact that a lot of swinging dicks like to act like they're Billy Badass drinking JD on the rocks and in reality they have 2oz of 80 proof bland booze in a rocks glass full of ice. JD used to be way better and a higher proof FYI.
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Mar 9, 2014 21:50
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Shif posted:Quite a bit of hate towards Jack, guess I've got some tasting to do. Ok, you're probably not trolling but when you said you actually liked JW Red I got real suspicious because that stuff is just VILE. I like to drink good whisk(e)y and I try not to be a snob about it so this was never meant to come off as "Ho hum look at this plebian drinking poor people whisky" or anything like that, I just didn't really think anyone could actually think JW red is good. Jack isn't too bad in my book though. There are however a LOT of better options for the same money, a few good suggestions have already been posted.
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Mar 9, 2014 21:54
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Well in all reality I do consider myself a newbro whisk(e)y plebian, no harm done. JW Red is meh at best, I just don't know what else to compare it to; at first taste I honestly thought it tasted like cardboard. On the other hand I am itching to try some George Dickel, signs are pointing to holyshitthisis10timesbetterthanJD. What happened to the venerable JD anyway that I'm so feverishly missing out on?
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Mar 9, 2014 22:12
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Shif posted:Well in all reality I do consider myself a newbro whisk(e)y plebian, no harm done. JW Red is meh at best, I just don't know what else to compare it to; at first taste I honestly thought it tasted like cardboard. Suggestions for total noob whiskey: Bourbon - Evan Williams Scotch - Glenlivet 12
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Mar 9, 2014 23:04
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Sometimes I wonder if us peat whisky fans are chugging down celtic warriors in a very literal sense. Tasting notes like leather, bandages, thick red wine... 
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Mar 9, 2014 23:12
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Has anyone had a chance to try Glenmorangie Ealanta? I have a bottle reserved for me, and was wondering if anyone had any thoughts/opinions on it?
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Mar 9, 2014 23:15
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Shif posted:Well in all reality I do consider myself a newbro whisk(e)y plebian, no harm done. JW Red is meh at best, I just don't know what else to compare it to; at first taste I honestly thought it tasted like cardboard. I'm jealous. If you really like what many people consider bad or mediocre then you are in for a treat when you get to try some really good stuff!
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Mar 9, 2014 23:18
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Wojcigitty posted:I'm jealous. If you really like what many people consider bad or mediocre then you are in for a treat when you get to try some really good stuff! I know right, I'm looking forward to it! Praise the military genius who said gently caress blue laws, in before px trip.
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Mar 9, 2014 23:24
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Stultus Maximus posted:Suggestions for total noob whiskey: I'm going to say Highland Park 12 because it's incredibly balanced and immediately let's you know what to look for next. It's a little sweet, a little smoky, a little malty. It's not that much more expensive but it's so much more balanced. It's like a Rosetta Stone for scotch because it lets you decipher a lot about scotch after a few glasses.
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Mar 9, 2014 23:27
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I owe you guys some notes I recently had excuse to try the Smooth Ambler 10 and was quite impressed so I was excited when Bottle rocket was pouring 2 different ones I was quite excited. The 7 year is made with a 36 percent rye mashbill which has the corn sweetness taking quite a backseat to the rye spice, and a pleasant, mature mouthfeel. Bought a bottle immediately for that price and sipping it now. The spice stays with you resulting in a more aggressive finish than many bourbons. The 2 year old "yearling" is a heavily wheated mashbill. It' say it's on par with Makers, maybe a little better, but more interesting as a preview of the 10 year and you can see just what kinds of impact aging has as opposed to other factors then a great drink by itself. aaaand  Just going to Quote myself talking about the blue corn that this is based on. KhyrosFinalCut posted:Sweet Sassy Molassey! -- and I mean that both as an interjection and as decriptive language. The finish lingers forever and the density of sweetness as a follow on to the spice/burn of the palate is really molasses-like... and I can't come up with something to append to that that sounds less cheesy than "but in a good way." So I'll just go with that. This is the same mashbill but they smoke the hell out of it and you can taste that. The Molasses expands into a BBQ sauce with the smoke, and it really is kind of like there's a Barbecue going on in your mouth. Definitely drink this neat or with only 1 ice cube. Water kills the smoke on it very fast rendering it basically indistinguishable from the basic blue corn and losing the kick. The sales rep tells me that from 2 years or so ago, it was even more aggressive. Pity I missed that.
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Mar 10, 2014 01:38
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Speaking of cheap whiskey I really like Clontarf 1014. $16 for 750ml, $30 for 1.75lt  I haven't tried any of their upper tier stuff but 1014 is nice for cheap hooch.
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Mar 10, 2014 04:00
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KhyrosFinalCut posted:aaaand What was the price on this? It sounds awesome.
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Mar 10, 2014 04:14
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Shif posted:I know right, I'm looking forward to it! Praise the military genius who said gently caress blue laws, in before px trip. If you can track down one of the more reasonably-priced rye whiskeys you should check that out too. Look for Rittenhouse 100 proof or Sazerac 6 year or Redemption.
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Mar 10, 2014 06:43
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Devoz posted:Has anyone had a chance to try Glenmorangie Ealanta? I have a bottle reserved for me, and was wondering if anyone had any thoughts/opinions on it? Here's what I wrote about it previously: quote:Glenmorangie Ealanta - A special edition 19yo Glenmorangie aged in first-use oak barrels. It is deliciously sweet and the finish seems to go on forever. Jim Murray voted it World Whisky of the year 2014, so it has a significant mark-up if you can get hold of it. I'd say it's not worth the £150 you can get it for now, but at the £75 price point it came out at it would've been excellent value. After further tastings, I think it tastes much more like a Bourbon than a Whiskey.
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Mar 10, 2014 11:32
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StorrowS posted:Here's what I wrote about it previously:
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Mar 10, 2014 19:59
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door Door door posted:What was the price on this? It sounds awesome. Balcones Brimstone is ~55 most places I've seen in NYC.
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Mar 10, 2014 20:31
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Kenning posted:If you can track down one of the more reasonably-priced rye whiskeys you should check that out too. Look for Rittenhouse 100 proof or Sazerac 6 year or Redemption. What is the difference between the rye and sour mash? Just bought some George Dickel 12.... Finally a JD replacement.
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Mar 10, 2014 21:30
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Shif posted:What is the difference between the rye and sour mash? American Rye means 51% of the mashbill is rye based. Straight Rye means 100%. Sour mashing is reusing byproduct from the mashing process to initiate fermentation.
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Mar 10, 2014 21:39
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kidsafe posted:American Rye means 51% of the mashbill is rye based. Straight Rye means 100%. Forgive me, but "mashbill"?
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Mar 10, 2014 21:56
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Shif posted:Forgive me, but "mashbill"? Mashbill refers to the breakdown of the grains in the recipe used to create the mash, the base matter that gets fermented and eventually distilled. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mash_ingredients )
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Mar 10, 2014 22:00
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kidsafe posted:American Rye means 51% of the mashbill is rye based. Straight Rye means 100%. Straight rye means aged 2 or more years, whatever 51% or more rye mashbill used.
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Mar 10, 2014 23:32
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KhyrosFinalCut posted:Balcones Brimstone is ~55 most places I've seen in NYC. Doesn't sound too terrible, I'll have to keep an eye out for it. A more general question. I have a few bottles of whisky that are probably 4/5 full each. I might have to put them in storage for four months. Will that amount if time noticeably degrade the flavor? Should I just try to drink as much as possible now?
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Mar 11, 2014 01:06
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Radio Nowhere posted:Straight rye means aged 2 or more years, whatever 51% or more rye mashbill used. Ah right, it's an odd coincidence that most 100% rye whiskeys are branded as 100% straight rye.
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Mar 11, 2014 01:41
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door Door door posted:Doesn't sound too terrible, I'll have to keep an eye out for it. No. You'll be fine.
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Mar 11, 2014 02:36
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spankmeister posted:Ok, you're probably not trolling but when you said you actually liked JW Red I got real suspicious because that stuff is just VILE. No it isn't. Stop saying this like its gospel or something. You don't like Johnnie Red, fine, that doesn't make it a bad or undrinkable whisky.
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Mar 11, 2014 03:55
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Radio Nowhere posted:Straight rye means aged 2 or more years, whatever 51% or more rye mashbill used. kidsafe posted:Ah right, it's an odd coincidence that most 100% rye whiskeys are branded as 100% straight rye. Yes, "Straight" in "Straight Bourbon Whiskey" or "Straight Tenessee Whiskey" means aged minimum 2 years, "Rye" means at least 51% rye.
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Mar 11, 2014 05:18
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PatMarshall posted:No it isn't. Stop saying this like its gospel or something. You don't like Johnnie Red, fine, that doesn't make it a bad or undrinkable whisky. Nope, it's inherent objectively awful. This is not out of snobbery but out of personal experience. I like a lot of cheap blends in the JW red category but JW red really is the worst.
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Mar 11, 2014 08:21
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I've never had JW Red, but I though the consensus was that it isn't a great sipping whisky but is a wonderful mixer?
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Mar 11, 2014 12:52
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S.W.O.R.D. Agent posted:I've never had JW Red, but I though the consensus was that it isn't a great sipping whisky but is a wonderful mixer? Yes. JWRed for my friends who wanna get wasted, Glenmorangie or Highland Park or equivalent for the friends that appreciate it. I am not wasting my good stuff on most of my buddies, kinda like having a few Aurturo Fuentes to pass along when they wanna smoke a cigar, while I will give my second group a DPG Blue or cuban RASS. Usually this group is overlapping with the one with good Scotch. I don't think I am being snobby here, it's just that I have known these guys for thirty years now, and I know their habits pretty well.
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Mar 11, 2014 14:36
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S.W.O.R.D. Agent posted:I've never had JW Red, but I though the consensus was that it isn't a great sipping whisky but is a wonderful mixer? I wouldn't go so far as "wonderful." It's a serviceable mixer. For a mixing Scotch I generally prefer Dewars or Famous Grouse, which still aren't good enough to drink straight but at least don't have JW Red's funky flavors. For straight drinking, unfortunately the whisky boom is jacking up prices all around but there's still stuff like Speyburn 10 and McClelland's Islay around the $25ish price range that make decent sippers if you're on a budget. If you're not set on Scotch, though, nothing still beats Evan Williams for a cheap-rear end tasty mixer.
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Mar 11, 2014 15:49
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Devil Wears Wings posted:
Get the Evan Williams Bottled in Bond 100 proof. It's EW Black on steroids.
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Mar 11, 2014 19:42
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It goes without saying that people can drink whatever they like, even if what they like is terrible -- or a goddamn waste. For an example of the latter, Balvenie Doublewood and Coke.
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Mar 11, 2014 22:36
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KhyrosFinalCut posted:It goes without saying that people can drink whatever they like, even if what they like is terrible -- or a goddamn waste. I stand by that decision because BD 12 is an utterly tasteless waste and I will never by that again. So far it's the only single malt I've disliked. Right now I'm killing my bottle of Glenmorangie Quinta Ruban.
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Mar 11, 2014 22:45
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Tastes vary, of course, but JW Red is not ABC vodka or something, only fit for making you drunk. Try 2 ounces over ice with a splash of club soda, it's very nice. I prefer it to Dewar's, but I like both. If you can find it, try Balantine's, quite good for whisky and soda, and usually cheaper than Dewar's or Johnnie Walker.
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Mar 12, 2014 01:37
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Questions about expanding my tastes in whiskey - I've been drinking whiskey for the ~three years I've been legal to drink in the US, so my experience is highly limited and likely shallow, but I usually buy in the $20-$40 range outside of special occasions. I alternated Woodford Reserve and Gentleman Jack for a while, but a co-worker introduced me to Bulleit bourbon a few months ago and I'm seriously considering switching to that because of how smooth it is. Are there any other rye whiskies in a similar vein for $30-$50 that goons would recommend? On the high end of that price point, I've got half a bottle of gifted Blanton's and I'll probably get the wife some Red Breast 12 sometime in the next few months if I can find it (I live in AL) since she's partial to Irish whiskey. The Blanton's is far and away the best drink I have ever tasted. Outside that price point, the in-laws have a Glenmorangie 12 somewhere, but I don't know if I want to try it given my budget, so I'm confined to ~$50-$60 and under.
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Mar 12, 2014 06:09
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Rittenhouse or Sazerac are my go-to inexpensive, really great ryes. For the Bulleit, did you get the bourbon or the rye? If it's the bourbon, it will taste a little different from the ryes recommended above. For a good bourbon for a decent price with a good rye content, check out Wild Turkey 101 (don't mess with 81). Also, Redbreast is incredible stuff, especially the 15 if you can spring for it.
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Mar 13, 2014 02:23
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So the recent discussions about inexpensive and tasty rye whiskey reminded me that I am out of George Dickel Rye. When I went to the store, I ended up picking of George Dickel and Bulleit Rye as well. Considering they come from the same initial source, they did taste similar. Personally, I prefer the Bulleit Rye. The finish is a little spicier, which is nice to have in a rye. The clearance section also had a bottle of 21yr rye, from Collingwood (Canadian whiskey company). It was only 80 proof, compared to 90 for the other two. The Collingwood 21yr Rye had a lot more depth in flavor, and I certainly prefer it over the other two. 
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PatMarshall posted:Rittenhouse or Sazerac are my go-to inexpensive, really great ryes. For the Bulleit, did you get the bourbon or the rye? If it's the bourbon, it will taste a little different from the ryes recommended above. For a good bourbon for a decent price with a good rye content, check out Wild Turkey 101 (don't mess with 81). Also, Redbreast is incredible stuff, especially the 15 if you can spring for it.  You know, now that I check the label again, it was indeed the bourbon. Still going to keep an eye out when I make a store run for a good rye in the next few weeks. Thanks for the recommendations! I'll post a trip report on whatever I wind up getting.
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