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Bubble-T
Dec 26, 2004

You know, I've got a funny feeling I've seen this all before.

Cannot Find Server posted:

What about the people who were apparently signed in to chat clients on their phones?

They left their chat client logged in somewhere else most likely. Lots of people are "online" permanently.

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Loonytoad Quack
Aug 24, 2004

High on Shatner's Bassoon

Cannot Find Server posted:

What about the people who were apparently signed in to chat clients on their phones?

I've got a friend that always shows up on Skype even when he's not signed in anywhere. If I try and call him it just tries for about a minute then gives up. Probably just something like that.

Niwrad
Jul 1, 2008

kindermord posted:

if that wsj report is accurate i would be kind of nervous in any major western cities or tel aviv or seoul

Highly doubt a plane was flying around for 4 hours to a remote location and was not once picked up on some radar. Or that not a single passenger would have made a call during this ordeal and reported it.

Loonytoad Quack
Aug 24, 2004

High on Shatner's Bassoon

kindermord posted:

if that wsj report is accurate i would be kind of nervous in any major western cities or tel aviv or seoul

It's not loving accurate, nobody has stolen a plane, hidden it from the world, secretly loaded it up with millions of dollars of jet fuel and is now planning to fly it, unseen, to a major city to crash it into something. Oh and presumably they have executed 200-odd passengers at some point too.

If they wanted to fly it into something then they would hijack it and fly it into something, not execute the world's most ludicrous James Bond villain plan.

Skipjack
Sep 11, 2007

I prefer a quiet station,
thank you.

AKA Pseudonym posted:

They aren't very good at getting information out to the press at the very least. One day a satellite has spotted wreckage then the next day they're sure it has nothing to do the missing flight and nobody should have ever released the picutes in the first place. It's almost a week later and any word one way or the other about whether the plane was still transmitting flight data is just rumor. Maybe it's just poor press relations but it gives the impression that the various people in charge aren't coordinating very well.

You've got three regional countries involved already, using a mixture of military and civilian agencies and on top of that you have the FBI and NTSB also involved. that's a lot of different agencies that potentially don't have a lot of experience working with each other or others in general and who are all going to be pulling in different directions and working to different timescales of information. When TWA800 went down it created all kinds of conspiracy theories which in large part were boosted by the fact that the NTSB and FBI were at loggerheads with each other. And that was only two agencies from the same country working together. I seem to recall there were similar problems with different agencies confirming and denying wreckage sightings with Air France 447 as well.

Ultimately, this wasn't looking great in terms of communication strategy from the outset with the way the airline and the press treated the families. Like a lot of things surrounding this accident, the boring explanation, that the conflicting reports are due to poor communication across several agencies, is much more likely than the Tom Clancy bullshit about cover ups and misinformation.

AKA Pseudonym
May 16, 2004

A dashing and sophisticated young man
Doctor Rope

Cannot Find Server posted:

What about the people who were apparently signed in to chat clients on their phones?

The phones taken from the passengers are being stored in a locker in an unassuming office building that is, in truth, the headquarters of the Illuminati. Can the Malaysian Transportation Minister stop their plot and piece together the fragments of his true identity before it's too late?

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



Bubble-T posted:

They left their chat client logged in somewhere else most likely. Lots of people are "online" permanently.

This makes sense.

I wonder if this might be a similar case to Helios flight 522. It would explain why engine data kept getting transmitted and how the aircraft hasn't been found anywhere near its last known location, although it wouldn't explain the transponder ceasing to function or why there was never any communication from the crew or any passengers about a problem.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
I'm sure Alex Jones will know what happened.

Skipjack
Sep 11, 2007

I prefer a quiet station,
thank you.
The Times apparently has a story about carriers being warned about 777s being prone to fissures forming in the airframe of certain models, but people are also saying that its something to do with satellite antennae that MH370 didnt have, but its behind a paywall so I haven't read it. If that's correct you could easily have a slow depressurisation scenario where the plane just drifts along until it runs out of fuel and ditches.

Also Some Guy On Another Forum apparently spent last night looking over the plans for the 777 and reckons that a fire in the avionics bay could cause a total loss of electronic systems. It'd be easy to get disorientated flying blind at night over water and if the plane was on fire then that would support that oil rig worker who reckons he saw the plane on fire and crashing.

This is all speculation of course, but it's substantially more realistic than this bullshit that the plane is about to be turned into a DIY Minuteman and flown into Washington or whatever.

Bubble-T
Dec 26, 2004

You know, I've got a funny feeling I've seen this all before.
I think I know who's behind all of this


ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

The latest updates suggest nothing was going after it disappeared, it just went off. So we're back to the mid-flight breakup scenario somewhere.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Skipjack posted:

This is all speculation of course, but it's substantially more realistic than this bullshit that the plane is about to be turned into a DIY Minuteman and flown into Washington or whatever.

From infowars comments on it:

quote:

After black box disabled, luggage and some light debris and perhaps a
few passengers jettisoned from aircraft at lower altitude (and or along
with accompanists tossing some fake debris overboard from a ship way
outside the filed and revised highjacked/actual flight path, may have
helped buy time for the craft to fly low and escape (or actually
crash way-off path if pilot not experienced enough to fly such a
large craft at very low altitude) to another country, landing
field/desolate but cleared area, for later use of (or sell as) the craft
as a disguised craft/bomb/missile and OR more-unlikely, to ransom
"some" special passengers or "cargo" later.

Road_Warrior
Sep 16, 2005

Skipjack posted:

The Times apparently has a story about carriers being warned about 777s being prone to fissures forming in the airframe of certain models, but people are also saying that its something to do with satellite antennae that MH370 didnt have, but its behind a paywall so I haven't read it. If that's correct you could easily have a slow depressurisation scenario where the plane just drifts along until it runs out of fuel and ditches.

Also Some Guy On Another Forum apparently spent last night looking over the plans for the 777 and reckons that a fire in the avionics bay could cause a total loss of electronic systems. It'd be easy to get disorientated flying blind at night over water and if the plane was on fire then that would support that oil rig worker who reckons he saw the plane on fire and crashing.

This is all speculation of course, but it's substantially more realistic than this bullshit that the plane is about to be turned into a DIY Minuteman and flown into Washington or whatever.

That would be the FAA Airworthyness Directive issued initially in November 2013 and updated at the beginning of this month:

http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgad.nsf/0/d91639a24674ca8f86257c920050edf7/$FILE/2014-05-03.pdf

Seems to relate to both the 777-200 and 200LR models.

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot
lol the amount of tinfoil hat posting going on in this thread is hilarious.

Crewmine
Apr 26, 2012

Agrajag posted:

lol the amount of tinfoil hat posting going on in this thread is hilarious.

listen fucker if you can come up with a more credible theory than an iranian hijacking to turn the plane into an orbital nuke to destroy the ISS then we'd all love to hear it

Tumble
Jun 24, 2003
I'm not thinking of anything!

Agrajag posted:

lol the amount of tinfoil hat posting going on in this thread is hilarious.

its wishful thinking; we'd love if something crazy happened and it turns out the plane got hijacked and now people are being held hostage in a secret jungle base
much more interesting than "plane crashed into the ocean, its hard to find because the ocean is big"

Malaysia should just remember that the airplane is always in the last place you look, and then extrapolate from there. its probably in the couch or underneath your jacket

Tumble fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Mar 13, 2014

Skipjack
Sep 11, 2007

I prefer a quiet station,
thank you.

happyhippy posted:

From infowars comments on it:

lets face it, we all know it'd be implausible for the government to hijack 4 airliners on 9/11 and fly them all into their targets. clearly what has happened is they are stealing planes like MH370, AF447, making it look like an accident, then transporting the planes back in time to 2001 to stage the attacks.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Agrajag posted:

lol the amount of tinfoil hat posting going on in this thread is hilarious.

WHERE ARE THE PASSENGERS AND WHAT DO YOU KNOW!

Mons Hubris
Aug 29, 2004

fanci flup :)


The longer the hijackers wait to turn the plane into a space nuke, the closer Jack Bauer gets to finding them. It's been days and this poo poo usually gets resolved within 23 hours or so.

wearing a lampshade
Mar 6, 2013

quote:


Malaysia has nothing 2 hide. Spared no expense and effort. #MH370 @HishammuddinH2O

— H2O Comms (@H2OComms) March 13, 2014

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Mons Hubris posted:

The longer the hijackers wait to turn the plane into a space nuke, the closer Jack Bauer gets to finding them. It's been days and this poo poo usually gets resolved within 23 hours or so.

Previously on 24, dateline Malaysia, South China Sea. Operatives are in place for exercise Hide The Salami. Let's not gently caress this one up guys, there's a plane to snatch.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

ewe2 posted:

Previously on 24, dateline Malaysia, South China Sea. Operatives are in place for exercise Hide The Salami. Let's not gently caress this one up guys, there's a plane to snatch.

"Sir, wouldn't it be easier to steal one from a hangar somewhere?"
"What do you mean?"
"Well why don't we just break into one of their storage hangars and steal one, no need to risk a hijack. And no need to kill 200 passengers."
"But this was the plan!"
"I know, but we could just take the plane, be gone before they were aware its missing, and it won't attract as much attention as killing 200 people would."
"I can see what you mean. But one question, who is in charge here?"
"You sir."
"Remember that. Ok lads, the one last to kill a passenger has to fly the bucket of bolts back to base at sea level!"

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

Skipjack posted:

This is all speculation of course, but it's substantially more realistic than this bullshit that the plane is about to be turned into a DIY Minuteman and flown into Washington or whatever.

I realize the posters are probably American or at least western, but it seems weird that the terrorist angle always hints at specifically Western targets. It seems more likely, if terrorism, it was the Uighers or something. A couple of Chinese terrorists decide to try their hand at a 9/11-style hijacking, hijack the plan, and then the Chinese shoot it down either on purpose or accident. Everyone is just upset about the west not being the bad guys. If everyone doesn't hate you, you're not playing government right :clint:

I'm calling it right now though, Malaysia is going to be China's Iraq :aaaaa:

Skipjack
Sep 11, 2007

I prefer a quiet station,
thank you.
get this: most plane crashes aren't caused by terrorism

Matchstick
Jul 10, 2004

The most boring theory is the always the right one: mechanical (non-terrorist) failure and it flew into the ocean. In a fire-ball, like the NZ oil rig worker said. This 4 hours of pinging to Rolls-Royce will be "clarified" and debunked within 24 hours.

e: Skipjack and Matchstick know the score

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007
Has a Liam Neeson joke been made yet?

He would have stopped the crash with his specific set of skills.

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

Delta-Wye posted:

I realize the posters are probably American or at least western, but it seems weird that the terrorist angle always hints at specifically Western targets. It seems more likely, if terrorism, it was the Uighers or something. A couple of Chinese terrorists decide to try their hand at a 9/11-style hijacking, hijack the plan, and then the Chinese shoot it down either on purpose or accident. Everyone is just upset about the west not being the bad guys. If everyone doesn't hate you, you're not playing government right :clint:

I'm calling it right now though, Malaysia is going to be China's Iraq :aaaaa:

Talk about full on retard mode.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Delta-Wye posted:

I'm calling it right now though, Malaysia is going to be China's Iraq :aaaaa:

We need to invade first to protect the ladyboys!

Sinjang
May 29, 2013
Time for another contradiction...


http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=22894802&ref=http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FajXnkedhDF

U.S. officials believe that the missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner may have crashed in the Indian Ocean and is moving the USS Kidd to the area to begin searching.

It will take another 24 hours to move the ship into position, a senior Pentagon official told ABC News.

"We have an indication the plane went down in the Indian Ocean," the senior official said.

The official said there were indications that the plane flew four or five hours after disappearing from radar and that they believe it went into the water.

Al Borland
Oct 29, 2006

by XyloJW
Woah they haven't FOUND IT YET?

It's almost like it crashed in the ocean. Yknow that giant big loving thing composed of water that is really deep.

Nahh that wouldn't happen must be alien government terrorists.

Boner Medicine
Feb 1, 2014
I wish I had a black girlfriend so I could find the black box on a nightly basis.

Al Borland
Oct 29, 2006

by XyloJW

Boner Medicine posted:

I wish I had a black girlfriend so I could find the black box on a nightly basis.

I see a porno being made here based on this plane.

aeternum
Sep 3, 2003

kindermord posted:

if that wsj report is accurate i would be kind of nervous in any major western cities or tel aviv or seoul

the plane flew an additional 4 hours not 4 days, they'll be fine.

Al Borland
Oct 29, 2006

by XyloJW

kindermord posted:

if that wsj report is accurate i would be kind of nervous in any major western cities or tel aviv or seoul

I'm literally quivering in fear of terrorism every minute and day. Since 9/11 I hope the government in acts more freedom removing laws to keep me safe! You never know where that terrorist is hiding waiting to kill me. Maybe on a plane in the bottom of the ocean or my cell phone.

roboshit
Apr 4, 2009

kindermord posted:

if that wsj report is accurate i would be kind of nervous in any major western cities or tel aviv or seoul

do you get nervous too when sunrise tomorrow is supposed to be 2 minutes later than it was today

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

Boner Medicine posted:

I wish I had a black girlfriend so I could find the black box on a nightly basis.

You've clearly never been with a black girl. The vag actually has a pleasant contrast of being really pink.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




Disconnecticus posted:

This was supposed to be the possible range of the flight, and since it came off the internet randomly it will be absolutely correct and accurate.




Despite electronics failures the plane landed safely in Australia. Everyone onboard was immediately killed by wildlife.

No. 6
Jun 30, 2002

There are about 2,300 missing Americans everyday. I too am terrified that there are sleeper suicide bombers walking among us and phantom death planes above. I doubt I will ever be able to leave this basement due to this looming dread.

Matchstick
Jul 10, 2004

This chlamydia-riddled koala is slowly but surely tearing at my flesh.

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Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
Blending in like it ain't no thang
I hope they find the blackbox, because I'm waiting to see what hilariously stupid thing a pilot did today to screw up the 20 redundant systems that modern planes have to prevent them from crashing. The Russian pilot that let his kids try to fly was pretty good, but the French pilots who managed to stall out their (fully functional) plane is really the winner right now.

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