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This is still better than the theory talk in the True Detective thread.
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I can't decide if this thread is full of trolls, god-wads, or retards. My 9 year old got way more in to the first episode of this one than she did the Sagan. If the purpose of this show is to help inspire awe and appreciation for the sciences and the cosmos then I think it's doing a fine job so far.
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Na'at posted:I can't decide if this thread is full of trolls, god-wads, or retards. Goons.
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Na'at posted:I can't decide if this thread is full of trolls, god-wads, or retards. How many papers has your daughter published?
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Mar 13, 2014 22:32
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WoodrowSkillson posted:Its gonna be hilarious in 300 years when historians talk about how hitler was not all the bad because he ushered in the nuclear age. If you accept the premise that the jews are a filthy subhuman race bent on ruling the world, it was entirely logical.
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Mar 13, 2014 22:38
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Trig Discipline posted:If you accept the premise that the jews are a filthy subhuman race bent on ruling the world, it was entirely logical. Isn't that the same premise you have to accept for the "The Inquisition was actually a great thing" theory? Robotnik Nudes posted:How many papers has your daughter published? 
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Mar 13, 2014 22:41
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counterfeitsaint posted:Isn't that the same premise you have to accept for the "The Inquisition was actually a great thing" theory? There were different Inquisitions! And if history has taught us nothing else, it's taught us that no matter where you go in history it is socially acceptable to hate the Jews.
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Mar 13, 2014 22:45
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It's really just their fault, though, for not conforming to the strict social organization the kindly church insisted on for the good of everyone. They were really asking for it.
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Mar 13, 2014 23:03
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counterfeitsaint posted:Isn't that the same premise you have to accept for the "The Inquisition was actually a great thing" theory? Yeah, it's funny how often that premise comes up.
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Mar 13, 2014 23:12
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Trig Discipline posted:Conversely, it's a loving excellent time to leave the USA if you're an early career scientist. Oh hey, more detail on this? I don't count since I do NDT, but still curious about your statement.
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Mar 13, 2014 23:54
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Paradox Personified posted:Oh hey, more detail on this? I don't count since I do NDT, but still curious about your statement. Grant funding rates in the USA are abysmal, both funding rates and salaries are better elsewhere. I talked a bit more about it here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3576608&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=16#post426878796
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Mar 13, 2014 23:59
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Ah poo poo I was just catching up with the thread, already answered. Can't wait for the next episode, honestly. I'm in love. No complaints here.
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Mar 14, 2014 00:04
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America used to lead the world in science and technology. Maybe it still does, but not by anywhere near the comfortable margin it used to have. Fundamentally, I think a lot of Americans have the attitude that being the world leader in sci/tech was just a natural result of being God's Chosen Country, but it isn't - the USA was out in front because they paid for it, with good old cash money. They don't realize that if you stop paying for innovation, it stops happening. The USA still has many of the best universities in the world, so it will take a while for the effects to really be felt, but the academic culture has already changed since I started grad school in 2003. It used to be that top American early career scientists almost never went overseas; it was seen almost as an acknowledgement of defeat. Now, more and more are going overseas because the grass is actually greener over there, and the stigma attached to that has all but disappeared. My own example: far from being out of options, I turned down a very competitive postdoc at Berkeley to come to Australia. My grad advisor, who is one of the most blunt and no-bullshit people I have ever known (and would have said "don't be a loving idiot" if he thought it was a bad idea), was entirely in favor of that choice. The academic job market is increasingly global, and for those of us who are willing to be mobile at that geographic scale, the USA doesn't look anywhere near as appealing as it used to.
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Mar 14, 2014 00:09
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DarkCrawler posted:(Also this is the best show ever to watch while high)  But yeah, this. After being in straight up awe at the visual effects the first time through, me and my room mates partook in some recreational medication and watched it again. MIND BLOWN. Also? Jupiters giant storm and clouds looked so fluffy. Looking forward to the rest of the series.
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Boogaleeboo posted:There was a period where 3 separate Inquisitions existed. The Roman Inquisition, which is the actual church Inquisition, and the Portuguese and Spanish Inquisitions, run by the respective monarchies of their countries and not the church. The Roman Inquisition generally investigated for heresy and didn't kill all that many people compared to trials it had. The reason Bruno came up on Cosmo is he's pretty much the only person with a vaguely science background you *could* show being burned, because none of the others that got tried were killed. Roman Inquisition not really about killing scientists. Not even remotely, not slightly. The Portuguese and Spanish Inquisitions? Generally killed Jews. Really, really a lot of Jews. For the crimes of being Jewish and annoying folks with their Jewosity. Killed a whoooole bunch of Jews. Your Hobbesian dystopic view of history has been commented on by others, but this is what really bothered me. The Spanish Inquisition was interested in Conversos. That's also what made it so hosed up. The notion of racial Judaism, particularly in Andalusia, would come later. But you can trace its origins back to the Spanish Inquisition because people who had converted where deemed "Secret Muslims/Jews". This is a racist narrative, which you'll note continues to this very day. The Spanish Inquisition is also curious because it also targeted Jews. Pogroms were fairly common in Europe, but when it came to heresies other religions are left out. A Jew isn't a heretic, he's non-Christian. There is a rather critical difference. So you have a purge or recent converts and a pogrom at the same time. That's some hosed up poo poo. And also entirely unlike the Inquisition. The Dominicans (an order created to fight the Cathars, as others have mentioned) were actually pretty decent. On the milder side of the legal norms of the time.
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Mar 14, 2014 01:46
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I like space and planets and black holes and kooky space-time astrophysics stuff. What else should I be watching?
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Steve Yun posted:I like space and planets and black holes and kooky space-time astrophysics stuff. What else should I be watching? Star Trek: TNG/DS9. Stephen Hawking's Universe. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1655078/ Wonders of the Solar System http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1611787/ How The Universe Works http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1832668/ Drifter fucked around with this message at 09:56 on Mar 14, 2014 |
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Mar 14, 2014 09:53
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Steve Yun posted:I like space and planets and black holes and kooky space-time astrophysics stuff. What else should I be watching? The sky. 
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Everyone should watch Disney's "The Black Hole". It's not really scientific or anything, but gently caress you, if you like space and spaceships and good, creepy sci-fi, it's fantastic and was the first thing I saw as a kid that really fascinated me with black holes.
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Mar 14, 2014 17:42
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That movie traumatized the poo poo out of me as a kid. God it was scary to a six year old. Holy crap they're going to remake it.
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Mar 14, 2014 18:05
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Steve Yun posted:I like space and planets and black holes and kooky space-time astrophysics stuff. What else should I be watching? https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sky-guide-view-stars-night/id576588894?mt=8
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Mar 14, 2014 18:30
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Updated ratings for the first episode:quote:Across the 10 Fox-owned US networks, led by FBC, the science program drew 8.5 million total viewers and a 2.9 in adults 18-49.
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Mar 14, 2014 19:40
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I'm not a TV expert but that seems pretty good considering the tough competition in that timeslot.
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Mar 14, 2014 19:57
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Yeah, Resurrection got a 3.2 share, so that's not nothing.
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Mar 14, 2014 20:20
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Steve Yun posted:I like space and planets and black holes and kooky space-time astrophysics stuff. What else should I be watching? Hosted by Sam Neill 
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Mar 14, 2014 20:24
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I think this is really good, and have heard people excited about the series here in the office, so I'm hopeful for a growing popularity. And yes I know the using anecdotes as data about a show about science is ironic.
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Mar 14, 2014 20:35
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Oracle posted:That movie traumatized the poo poo out of me as a kid. God it was scary to a six year old. This is a movie that could make for a fun remake...but the original is just SO loving good, I'm hesitant.
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Oracle posted:That movie traumatized the poo poo out of me as a kid. God it was scary to a six year old. Same here!
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My only lasting thought about The Black Hole is simply "That robot killed the gently caress out of that guy."
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I thought the first episode was really good. The timeline was great and NDT talking about Sagan at the end was touching. The history/Bruno thing was a bit long but I think it's good to remind everyone what society used to be like and how important things like freedom of speech are. I especially found it refreshing that the church can be involved in a story without having to hear dozens of excuses for all their bad actions. That gives me hope that the Evolution discussion won't try and sugar coat anything for the masses. However, I can't decide what I'm looking forward to the most. The next episode OR the entertaining posts in this thread that will soon follow!
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kant posted:However, I can't decide what I'm looking forward to the most. The next episode OR the entertaining posts in this thread that will soon follow! I'm hoping that we spent the week evolving into better posters and won't poo poo up the thread after tonight's episode.
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smg77 posted:I'm hoping that we spent the week evolving into better posters and won't poo poo up the thread after tonight's episode. I see you're new to TVIV
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Here is the synopsis of today's episode:Ann Druyan posted:Life is transformation. Artificial selection turned the wolf into the shepherd and all the other canine breeds we love today. And over the eons, natural selection can sculpt the exquisitely complex human eye out of a microscopic patch of pigment. The Ship of the Imagination is on a voyage of exploration of the relatedness of all life on Earth and the possible evolution of life in the cosmic context. Neil takes us on our first visit to the grand Hall of Extinction, a monument to all the broken branches on the tree of life. So what are we going to be whining about this time? Not enough space stuff? Too antagonistic to the creationists?
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Mar 16, 2014 23:29
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mikemil828 posted:Here is the synopsis of today's episode: I want to see complaints about NDT avoiding discussion about micro vs macro evolution or why there are no transitional fossils. Also, at least a few people need to call his credentials into question. He clearly isn't qualified to talk about natural selection because he hasn't published 500 papers on advanced evolutionary theory.
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Mar 17, 2014 00:08
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Anyone have a way to watch this legally on the internet? I don't have a TV.
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Mar 17, 2014 01:27
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Dirty Job posted:Anyone have a way to watch this legally on the internet? I don't have a TV. It looks like you can watch the old episodes here: http://www.fox.com/watch/183733315515
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Mar 17, 2014 01:31
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Hope they talk about extremophiles tonight.
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Motherfucking evolution!
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