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PantsBandit posted:There really does need to be some service like Netflix where you can rent digital copies of games for a set period of time. I understand that that is what Sony wants to start doing but I just don't think the streaming service is going to ever work without a hitch, at least not for people that don't have incredible internet service. A better alternative would be letting people rent a game, download the full file, then somehow lock them out of it when the rental period is over. Seems like the kind of thing that companies just assume wouldn't work for one reason or another and so they don't put any effort into making it work. I think this is actually coming. Current gen "rentals" digitally. The tech is already in place. (PS3 had "timed demos" locked at like an hour for Plus people. No reason they can't change it to a date/time specification.
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Elysiume posted:Just to double-check, the PS4 controller uses micro-USB, right? I'm planning to buy one for use as a computer peripheral. Yes
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Sony is working on/testing rental options through the PSN store. Hopefully it comes sooner rather than later and the prices aren't ridiculous.
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PantsBandit posted:There really does need to be some service like Netflix where you can rent digital copies of games for a set period of time. I understand that that is what Sony wants to start doing but I just don't think the streaming service is going to ever work without a hitch, at least not for people that don't have incredible internet service. A better alternative would be letting people rent a game, download the full file, then somehow lock them out of it when the rental period is over. Seems like the kind of thing that companies just assume wouldn't work for one reason or another and so they don't put any effort into making it work. The PS3 has everything it needs on a technical level to do this, in a method that can't even be effectively hacked. The PS3 (and I'm assuming the PS4) when you download something with a PS+ membership, it asks the server "how many seconds from now does this expire?" and issues you a time-limited license based on that, using a special internal timer in the console. This timer survives any loving with the time/date. It's just the will.
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Harlock posted:Sony is working on/testing rental options through the PSN store. Hopefully it comes sooner rather than later and the prices aren't ridiculous. The leaked screenshot suggested you can rent games for 1, 7 or 30 days, although the price was just listed as 'free', which is obviously just a placeholder. I would hope the prices would be something like $2/1 day, $10/7 Days and $25 for 30 days although I think that would probably be optimistic.
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One hopes prices wouldn't be outrageous for digital rentals, but let's face it, digital rentals aren't being developed for any benevolent reason to fill a gap or need for users. It's another revenue stream for publishers and developers and Sony. It would be nice if it's a rate we can stomach, but I figure it's gotta be something that still lines all the appropriate pockets else why cannibalize digital and hard copy full-retail sales. Alternatively, Sony wants a slice of the pie (or the whole pie,) that places like Gamefly presently "own" and goes aggressive with pricing to kill that market. But I find that far less likely.
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the truth posted:Is NFS: Rivals still active online? I remember that it seemed like the kind of game that was best played with a large userbase. Looks like the kind of game I'd buy for around $30, so I don't know if I should try to find a deal on it used or wait a few more months for the price to go down. I almost always have a full room of players every time I play.
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I said come in! posted:I really want to get through Assassins Creed IV, but the single player is so frustrating. The missions where you trail behind someone, really suck for me. I am not good at them. There are fewer of them than in AC3, but still too many. I found most of them can be cheesed either by hiring dancers (or whatever they called the courtesans in this iteration) and just standing in the middle of the street blended with them or by taking to the roofs. Once you have the poison darts the roofs tends to be fairly easy because you can just knock out any rooftop sentries from a distance. There are a couple that take place in the wilderness, but in most cases there is an obvious route you are supposed to take from bush to bush.
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PantsBandit posted:There really does need to be some service like Netflix where you can rent digital copies of games for a set period of time. I understand that that is what Sony wants to start doing but I just don't think the streaming service is going to ever work without a hitch, at least not for people that don't have incredible internet service. A better alternative would be letting people rent a game, download the full file, then somehow lock them out of it when the rental period is over. Seems like the kind of thing that companies just assume wouldn't work for one reason or another and so they don't put any effort into making it work. The PS4's play while you download system seems like it would handle this really well. It was a bit silly having to probably download over 10GB to play a game for an hour on the PS3, but at least you could keep your save file for the full game, or buy it online and keep playing. Having PS+ let you play every game in the rental catalogue for one hour and then be locked out, but it should be possible to rent it for a specific time period instead, such as three days or a week. Since it would be possible to complete a game over this time period, they probably wouldn't let you rent games near launch so they can get as many full price purchases as possible.
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Spalec posted:The leaked screenshot suggested you can rent games for 1, 7 or 30 days, although the price was just listed as 'free', which is obviously just a placeholder. I can say for sure that if it was priced like this I would be willing to throw a few bucks at a lot of games I'm on the fence about, that wouldn't have gotten any of my money otherwise. Hopefully they include an option to buy that subtracts the cost of the rental if you decide to purchase it too.
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Edit: Well, looks like it's already fixed  Hopefully a few people managed to snag it.
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Feenix posted:One hopes prices wouldn't be outrageous for digital rentals, but let's face it, digital rentals aren't being developed for any benevolent reason to fill a gap or need for users. Well, I mean, PS+ doesn't exist for any benevolent reason and it's a pretty good deal. I have high hopes. Maybe I'm too optimistic.
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Lorne Lanning says Oddworld New and Tasty will most likely be priced at $30, and needs 250K sales for an Abe's Exoddus remake. Interesting for him to straight up state what sales are needed.
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cronox2 posted:Lorne Lanning says Oddworld New and Tasty will most likely be priced at $30, and needs 250K sales for an Abe's Exoddus remake. Do we know if this is a straight up remake so it has the same level design with new graphics or is it going to change stuff more like the Resident Evil Gamecube remake? I'm excited either way, I loved both the original games. There's not a more specific release date then 'spring' is there?
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So I hopped on the PS4 after work today and noticed some odd "tearing" artifacts on my screen- almost like VSync-disabled tearing on a PC - in two bands, one about 1/5 from the top of the screen, and one about 1/5 from the bottom. I thought it might be related to overheating (my PS4 was up to that point atop my A/V receiver, which I noticed was rather hot at the time), so I moved my PS4 to another shelf and the problem has gone away. Was I right to suspect heat issues, or is this a known "welp, best get ready to RMA" issue?
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TheQat posted:What time Eastern US will GZ be available? It's up now! $29.99, 3.6 GB
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Pro-tip for Ground Zeroes buyers: store is still updating, but it IS available to buy and download on the PS4 without need of the webstore. Just go to Games -> New Games -> scroll through tiles of Dead Nation etc. -> All New Games and it'll be right there. The other places its listed in have yet to be updated with more than just the listing itself (i.e., you can't go to Games -> All Games and buy it.)
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cronox2 posted:Lorne Lanning says Oddworld New and Tasty will most likely be priced at $30, and needs 250K sales for an Abe's Exoddus remake. Maybe I'm unfairly conditioned to the typical indie $10-$15 model but that seems a tad much, even if it's a longer game than many of those games. I was expecting $10 less.
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Oddworld was amazing, but that does seem pretty steep. I don't think I'd pay $30 for a remake of a PSX game I've already played multiple times..
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You guys are going to want to play Ground Zeroes. It really looks and feels next gen. I can only imagine what The Phantom Pain is going to be like.
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:You guys are going to want to play Ground Zeroes. It really looks and feels next gen. I can only imagine what The Phantom Pain is going to be like. Does it feel like more than 2 hours of entertainment? That's my biggest concern considering it's cost.
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NESguerilla posted:Does it feel like more than 2 hours of entertainment? That's my biggest concern considering it's cost.  So there's a lot of side missions and stuff that I still have yet to see.
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I guess today's the day we find out whether Sony has VR engineers who think they can beat John Carmack and the gang at Oculus rift eh? Or maybe not. I'm willing to bet that it's going to be super-prototype half baked stuff that Sony is still way not committed to because the title of the talk is 'driving the future of innovation' which is kind of corporate talk for 'he's some cool impractical and decades-away stuff we're experimenting with in our R&D department'.
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:The main story feels really loving short (it's literally only 2 objectives and a couple cutscenes), but I had so much fun loving around in the game world that I didn't even touch the story for the first 2 hours of play time. And when I was done with my first play through, I saw that I only had 8 PERCENT COMPLETION Still sounds like the biggest ripoff in VG history but goddamn I do want to try it. I love me some Metal Gear. If I wasn't so distracted by Dark Souls 2 I'd probably just cave and buy it tomorrow morning.
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Should have just stuck with $20 across the board.
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I'm still incredulous that there isn't as much cutscene time as there is gameplay time in GZ (according to what people are saying). Is that what Phantom Pain is going to be like? Did they look at Revengence and realize that the main line series doesn't need hour-long cutscenes either? edit: $15 is what I think the ideal price for a sub-full-length game. Hell, lots of near full length games are $15 also. I'm still working on Strider. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 10:00 on Mar 18, 2014 |
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I've been listening to audio logs for the past hour. There's no shortage of extra content in this game.Samurai Sanders posted:I'm still incredulous that there isn't as much cutscene time as their is gameplay time in GZ (according to what people are saying). Is that what Phantom Pain is going to be like? Did they look at Revengence and realize that the main line series doesn't need hour-long cutscenes either?
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I caved and just bought Ground Zeroes. It's a 1/3 done downloading. I only played the PS1 and PS2 MGS games and have no memory or idea what the plot was about. I want to see some pretty pictures on my PS4 to tie me over until Friday.
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Housh posted:I caved and just bought Ground Zeroes. It's a 1/3 done downloading. I only played the PS1 and PS2 MGS games and have no memory or idea what the plot was about. I want to see some pretty pictures on my PS4 to tie me over until Friday.
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Al-Saqr posted:I guess today's the day we find out whether Sony has VR engineers who think they can beat John Carmack and the gang at Oculus rift eh? Part of me hopes the announcement is that they are just teaming up with the rift people, because a format war in such a ridiculously niche market would just be dumb. Sony used to love doing that poo poo, but they have gotten much better about it. Plus Sony can contribute so much in terms of manufacturing and design, it seems like an ideal fit... But who knows.
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Samurai Sanders posted:I'm still incredulous that there isn't as much cutscene time as there is gameplay time in GZ (according to what people are saying). Is that what Phantom Pain is going to be like? Did they look at Revengence and realize that the main line series doesn't need hour-long cutscenes either? Revengeance really isn't a metal gear game. It's a Platinum game with Metal Gear paint. It isn't trying to "do" the same poo poo that a main series Metal Gear game is doing in terms of themes, pacing etc. It's all well and good to like Revengeance more than a main series Metal Gear game but I think adopting too much for Revengeance would pretty much destroy what makes those games what they are. That said I've been kind of out of the loop. Is Ground Zeroes literally the first chapter of Phantom Pain or is it a separate prologue that won't be in the final game? I assumed the former.
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RagnarokAngel posted:Revengeance really isn't a metal gear game. It's a Platinum game with Metal Gear paint. It isn't trying to "do" the same poo poo that a main series Metal Gear game is doing in terms of themes, pacing etc. It's all well and good to like Revengeance more than a main series Metal Gear game but I think adopting too much for Revengeance would pretty much destroy what makes those games what they are. I believe it's the latter. Which is why literally calling it a demo is disingenuous or ignorant.
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Software 1.62 is out and with it "Operation quality during use of some PlayStation 4 software has been improved." My favourite.
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Sprat Sandwich posted:Software 1.62 is out and with it "Operation quality during use of some PlayStation 4 software has been improved." I think it means "Playstation runs more gooder."
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RagnarokAngel posted:Revengeance really isn't a metal gear game. It's a Platinum game with Metal Gear paint. It isn't trying to "do" the same poo poo that a main series Metal Gear game is doing in terms of themes, pacing etc. It's all well and good to like Revengeance more than a main series Metal Gear game but I think adopting too much for Revengeance would pretty much destroy what makes those games what they are.
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Sprat Sandwich posted:Software 1.62 is out and with it "Operation quality during use of some PlayStation 4 software has been improved." FINALLY, 60FPS 4K Playroom.
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I have never played a Metal Gear game for more than 10 minutes. I probably won't be getting the new one simply because the whole thing seems very inaccessible to someone who is new to the series.
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Rinkles posted:I believe it's the latter. Which is why literally calling it a demo is disingenuous or ignorant. It's literally a short demonstration of what Phantom will be like, its not like you'll miss anything important by not playing it, or at least that's what the eurogamer dude said.
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RagnarokAngel posted:That said I've been kind of out of the loop. Is Ground Zeroes literally the first chapter of Phantom Pain or is it a separate prologue that won't be in the final game? I assumed the former. It's the equivalent of MGS2's Tanker or MGS3's Virtuous Mission, but on a larger scale with side-missions to play with afterwards. It almost definitely wont be included on the final game's disc, but there'll probably be editions that come with a download code or something, we don't know yet.
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