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  Welcome to the PS4 thread! FAQ is at the bottom of this post! Scroll down to the second post for info on current and upcoming games!  Yes, this is a fast-moving launch thread but GAMES FORUM RULES STILL APPLY. Keep shitposting and console warrioring to a minimum. Launch Dates North America  - 11/15/13Europe, Central/South America, Australia - 11/29/13 Asia regions - December '13 Japan - 2/22/14 Latest Firmware: 1.70 (download here!) Post your PS4 streams here! PS3 Hardware thread PS3 Games thread PS Vita thread PSN Store thread Goon PSN list Want to mass-add goons from the goon list? Click here for instructions how! #ps4goons IRC chatroom What is the Playstation 4? Do I really need to answer this question? Well, okay. The Playstation 4 (henceforth 'PS4') is Sony's entrant into the eighth console generation grudge match, squaring off against the Xbox One and the Wii U - well, okay, really just the Xbox One. Sorry Nintendo.  How is it different from a PS3? After over 7 years on the market, the PS3 is practically ancient in technological terms, and the PS4 provides a generational leap in processing power over its predecessor. Tech specs are below, but specifically for you - this means bigger, more immersive worlds, sharper graphics, larger player counts (in online games), and numerous other improvements as developers learn their way around the new hardware. Also importantly, the PS4's simplified PC-like architecture represents a significant departure from the PS3's esoteric design, which will make life easier for developers and ease porting between platforms. Specs!
Accessories! What would a new console be without new accessories?  Dualshock 4 The first truly significant redesign of the Dualshock since its debut 16 years ago, the Dualshock 4 includes several refinements over its predecessors:
 Playstation Camera Originally rumored to be a pack-in, the optional Playstation Camera provides support for social features such as video chatting and inserting your face into game streams, motion-based gaming features using the DS4 and Move controllers, and Kinect-style voice recognition features. Other Accessories
User Interface  The PS3's venerable (if spartan) XMB has been refined and updated for the PS4. Now dubbed the 'Playstation Dynamic Menu', the new UI aims to maintain simplicity while including more useful and eye-catching content for the user. Digital Foundry's take: Richard Leadbetter posted:The Dynamic Menu is actually pretty neat. A central "bar" shows your content, gives access to the web browser and Sony's audio visual services and allows you to access your library of PlayStation content. Above the bar, you'll find utilitarian aspects - settings, party configuration, friends lists, messages, trophies, notifications and the PlayStation Store. Beneath the bar, you interact with your games and services in a little more depth - an overview of games plus an outline of recent activities appears, while media functions offer a customised series of suggestions of material you may - or may not - want to watch. We also suspect that it's here that the more social elements of the interface are integrated. As none of our friends own PlayStation 4 yet, this is something we couldn't test in-depth. Major Features The PS4 has several headline features, detailed below:  PS Vita Remote Play Long promised since the early days of the PSP and PS3 launches, remote play is finally delivering. Using Gaikai streaming technology, the PS4 compresses and streams video through your wireless LAN to your Vita (remote play over WAN currently not recommended), with little in the way of lag or compression (provided your Wifi signal is decent). Sony 'expects' most games to support the feature, with notable exceptions being games that require the camera or move controllers, etc. Notably, the streaming technology is built into the PS4 and Vita themselves and doesn't consume additional resources, so the only onus on developers is to reassign controls for the Vita's slightly altered control scheme (and various developers have described the process as rather easy and quick). The Vita's 'PS4 Link' app (installed with Vita firmware 3.0) will also allow the device to function as a second screen for the PS4, similar to the Wii U gamepad. Also of note, this feature will be supported by the Vita TV, meaning the set top box can act as a PS4 extender to TVs in other rooms.  Gameplay Sharing The PS4 has been designed to function as a permanent 'gaming DVR', in that it records gameplay as you play that can later be edited and posted to social media* by the user. *At launch, only Facebook. Sony is mum on Youtube support. Notably, Sony has said that developers can disable certain portions of their games from being recorded (e.g., spoilerific endgame cutscenes), so you technically can't record EVERYTHING in a game. At present not enough games are out to determine how comprehensive this feature is. The PS4 can also livestream gameplay to Twitch and Ustream, though at launch these sites will not archive your videos. If you have a Playstation Camera, you can also include a small superimposed video of your face for reaction shots while playing. Play-As-You-Download Day 1 Digital releases are a big deal now for Sony, but in realizing that many (or most!) next-gen games will be weighing in at a whopping 50+ GB, it was imperative that users not have to wait for the entire download to finish before playing. Now, the game will download a determined necessary amount to start gameplay, at which point you can begin playing while the download finishes in the background. Some games also allow you to choose which portion of the game you want to start playing first (e.g., single player or multiplayer). This functionality also applies to disc-based games - after a minimal install period, you can start playing the game and the console will cache (install) the rest of the content in the background.  Playstation App for Phones/Tablets Basically Sony's version of Smartglass, this app for iOS and Android devices gives you access to your friends list, What's New stream, trophies, and PSN store. The app also supports 'connect to PS4' functionality to provide second-screen experiences, though how this will be utilized is yet to be seen. FAQ What's this about busted PS4s?! Like any major consumer electronics launch, there are going to be some bad apples in the millions of devices shipped. That said, even sites like Kotaku have had issues, with the culprit seeming to be the HDMI port. Details are scarce but Sony is 'looking into' the matter. In any case, all PS4s are covered with a year warranty so you'll be taken care of. If you ARE having issues: quote:If your console light turns white (and doesn't get stuck at pulsating blue), it could be the HDMI cable or connection issue. Fix with a pin (see Kotaku's article). Can I replace the HDD? If so, what sizes are supported? Yes! Like PS3, the PS4's HDD is user-replaceable, which is handy since next-gen games will probably fill up that 500 GB fast. The PS4 will support any 2.5", 9.5 mm (laptop-sized) HDD of a minimum capacity of 160 GB. Currently drives top out at 1.5 TB, though 2 TB drives are on the horizon. SSDs are supported, though again, the minimum storage size is 160 GB, so don't hold hope of slapping your spare 128 GB drive in there. Here's how to do the deed! Can I use the Dualshock 4 on my PC? What about with my PS3? Yes and yes (through USB connection), although functionality is limited in both cases. On PC, the DS4 appears as a generic Directinput controller and doesn't support Xinput (like a 360 controller), so some tweaking is necessary - many goons have had success with x360ce. On PS3, the DS4 is functional in most games, though not all. Feeling adventurous? Help goon Monastery Dweller with getting proper DS4 support on PC! Do I have to connect my PS4 online? Nope! The PS4 was designed to never require an internet connection. That said, by not going online you obviously miss out on all the benefits of services like PSN, multiplayer functionality, media streaming and so on. Note that enabling DVD and Blu-ray playback requires updating your console to 1.5 firmware (which can be installed via USB drive in safe mode) and a one-time connection online, but afterward you can watch all disc content offline. Can I change my PSN name? I was young and stupid once, now I'm not Nope. You're stuck with whatever you originally chose. The new PSN will allow you to display your real name (if you choose), but besides that your only option is to create a whole new PSN account.Will there be colored Dualshock 4s? Yes, though release date in North America is yet to be determined. Current variations are 'wave blue' and 'magma red':  Can I upload to Youtube? Can I copy saved videos to my PC? Currently, no and no. Sony has said copying videos to PC will be supported in a later update, Youtube sharing is a big unknown but seems likely. My monitor isn't HDCP compliant. What do I do? At the moment, your only real option is a third party HDCP stripper. Sony has said they'll eventually remove the HDCP requirement but haven't given a timetable for doing so. Is there any backwards compatibility? At the moment, no - not even for PSone titles, making this the only Playstation (besides the first, obviously) to lack any form of backward compatibility. Sony has indicated they'll use Gaikai streaming as an eventual solution starting sometime in 2014, but details are scarce. They also haven't said if they have any eventual plans for local emulation. Can I plug headphones into my Dualshock 4 for game audio, and if so, how? Yes! Any 1/8" set of headphones will work (though you'll need a pair with an integrated mic if you want to use chat as well). Hold the PS button, then select 'manage devices'. Note that this will also mute audio going to your TV/receiver. What's the difference in 'standby' and fully powering down? Standby is essentially a low-power mode that allows the PS4 to perform background functions while not being fully powered. In this mode, it can charge connected controllers, download and install system updates, and also be turned on by other devices (e.g., Vita remote play) - however, the PS4 still draws about 10 watts, which is a low but not insignificant amount. Fully powering down the console doesn't give any of this functionality but it will draw zero power, and this option also allows you to safely unplug and move the PS4 when needed. For remote play, what does the 'connect directly' option do? When selected, the PS4 itself will create a wifi connection directly with your PS Vita and skip your wireless router entirely. If you're a short range from your PS4 (e.g., in the same room or an adjoining room) this is generally the best option, but the range is also shorter. When disabled, your PS4 will relay its stream through your router and then to your Vita, which can give longer range but adds an extra step to the connection, possibly introducing additional input lag. Connecting your PS4 to your router with ethernet cable may aid in reducing said lag. Is voice chat always enabled with the camera? If so, how do you disable it? Yes, the camera's microphone can be used for voice chat, but for some reason Sony made it so that it's always on when the camera is plugged in, with no option to disable the mic. Currently the only solutions to muting yourself are to plug a headset into the controller, or create a party consisting only of yourself. Note - firmware 1.60 now allows you to mute the camera. The Illusive Man fucked around with this message at 18:23 on May 1, 2014 |
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Games! Notable retail launch titles (click images to go to relevant threads, when they exist):  Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag Basically a pirate simulator set in the AssCreed universe, also rights much of AC3's wrongs.  Battlefield 4 With the PS4, Battlefield on console is now at (near) parity with the PC version. Unparalleled multiplayer mayhem, provided you can make it through the crashes.  CoD: It's CoD. If you don't know what that is by now, you probably aren't buying a PS4.  Fifa 14 Fifa, with slightly prettier graphics and enhanced AI.  Killzone: Shadow Fall Hands-down the best-looking launch title, Shadow Fall is set 30 years after the events of the original Killzone trilogy.  Knack Family-friendly platformer that no one would care about if it weren't helmed by Mark Cerny. Based on review scores, that didn't help much.  Madden 25 Madden, with slightly prettier graphics and enhanced AI.  NBA 2K14 If watching this doesn't make you at least a little excited, you probably don't give a poo poo about basketball.  Need For Speed: Rivals The best launch racing game by default, after DriveClub was delayed. Notable upcoming titles  Destiny Bungie's first post-Halo title, Destiny is an online, massively multiplayer co-op shooter (think Borderlands with a persistent online world and more players).  Dragon Age III: Inquisition This has to be better than Dragon Age 2, right...?  DriveClub   Infamous: Second Son Ever wanted to tear through Seattle as a grungy dude with super powers?  Metal Gear Solid V Split into two parts, with Ground Zeroes releasing first as a smaller 'prologue', and full game The Phantom Pain releasing later, this is the first time Metal Gear has incorporated open-world gameplay. Also Kiefer Sutherland is now voicing Snake. Sorry, David Hayter.   The Order: 1886 Taking place in a steampunk-inspired alternate 19th century London, this could be a by-the-numbers cover shooter but looks very promising.  Tom Clancy's The Division Like Destiny, this is an open-world, massively multiplayer co-op shooter set in New York City after a deadly viral outbreak.  Watch Dogs This was the big launch title a lot of people were really looking forward to, myself included. Delayed until Spring 2014 for polishing, which is probably a good thing, all things considered. You play as Aiden Pearce, a lone wolf hacker out for retribution in near-future Chicago.  The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt The Witcher 2 was a treat for RPG fans in the previous generation, matching a complex, branching story with a remarkably realized world. The Witcher 3 promises to return all these elements and incorporate them in a huge open world - think Skyrim with a story and characters you actually care about. The Illusive Man fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Mar 24, 2014 |
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Greatness is here.
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Excellent OP! Ready to get my hands on this beast.
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RagnarokAngel posted:Greatness is here. Indeed. 
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One of my friends was telling me about how he was playing Killzone Shadow Fall on his Vita this morning, and how smooth and lag free the experience was. Remote Play has ended up being way better then we expected.
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Yay. Can't wait to pick up my system today. Hopefully my USB headset works with it.
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Very much enjoying it so far. UI is clean and efficient, games look suuuper pretty and plenty of free games from PSN+
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I'm going to hug my UPS man when he shows up today.
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Stream going back up. http://www.twitch.tv/vallens
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Thanks everyone, obviously this is a work in progress so I'll be updating a bunch over the next few days. Let me know if there are any glaring omissions.
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So the mono buds that came with the system don't work. Luckily it isn't the controller as my stereo headphones work perfect with it. Does anyone know if it is even worth talking to Sony about and where exactly to contact? And in the mean time anyone got any recommendations on comfortable mono+mic buds on monoprice? Edit: Wow they are working again somehow? Okay. Still would like a recommendation on a better one. These things are the size of gauges for stretching ears. Ularg fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Nov 15, 2013 |
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USB headsets are plug and play compatible with the PS4. Definitely only something for class-compliant hardware, which means I can plug a USB mixer in for better mic quality + fooling around. From: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/10/30/ps4-the-ultimate-faq-north-america/ Ghosts n Gopniks fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Nov 15, 2013 |
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How is NFS went to 4 places today all gone edis ps4 that is Winkie01 fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Nov 15, 2013 |
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Space Racist posted:Thanks everyone, obviously this is a work in progress so I'll be updating a bunch over the next few days. Let me know if there's any glaring omissions. You confused TB with GB in the HDD section.
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Thanks for not using any of the funny title suggestions.
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Solid OP, nice work. A couple of issues I ran into during setup: 1) While setting up my PSN account for the first time it hung while trying to connect and wouldn't respond to any button presses. Powering the PS4 down (hold the power button for 7 seconds) and then trying again worked fine. 2) After downloading the firmware update it got stuck on "Preparing to Install" for ~5 minutes, so I just cancelled it and updated via USB. It worked without a hitch that way. Now I'm adding tons of goons to my friends list and dang this is gonna take a while  Winkie01 posted:How is NFS went to 4 places today all gone First impressions I've read said it was fun. I'll probably grab it after I get a few hours in with the first few games I bought.
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I said come in! posted:One of my friends was telling me about how he was playing Killzone Shadow Fall on his Vita this morning, and how smooth and lag free the experience was. Remote Play has ended up being way better then we expected. This is my favorite new feature (well old feature that will actually be supported for a change)
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I'm excited! This is my first launch-day system. I guess I'll keep playing Arkham Origins until it shows up.
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14 days to go, thank you for beta testing!  edit: I'll pm you my list of multiplatform games thread limaCAT fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Nov 15, 2013 |
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Hoping to pick one up this holiday. Looks great.
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Anyone playing an EA game unable to connect to EA's servers? I'm trying to on FIFA and no dice; although I'm on PSN just fine
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Can I tell before I put an HDMI cable in whether I have a bad port? Still waiting for my console.
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Fergus Mac Roich posted:Can I tell before I put an HDMI cable in whether I have a bad port? Still waiting for my console. Isn't it not so much it being a bad port but there being a piece of metal inside of the port that is sticking out of place? You could just push it back into place if that happens.
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Fergus Mac Roich posted:Can I tell before I put an HDMI cable in whether I have a bad port? Still waiting for my console. The issue is that a metal part sticks up from its shielding and blocks entry. A proper looking HDMI port on a PS4: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/PlayStation+4+Teardown/19493#s54770
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Hardware is solid, controller is still a little small but better than the ps3, mine was covered in snot in the box. I keep accidentally hitting the touchpad which brings up the map but doesn't get rid of the map in asscreed.
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How amazing does Angry Birds look on it?
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Saw a Fed Ex truck pull up outside and got all excited until I remembered Amazon shipped via UPS. The waiting is always the hardest part of buying these things online. Last year my Wii U didn't show up until the end of the day.
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Nice OP! Should be putting my hands on my PS4 in about an hour or so, and I can't wait. I'm ready. If any goons want to add me for Killzone, AC4, or Knack stuff, I'm NotECEC. I'll probably be picking up NFS soon as well.
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Looking forward to seeing how well the Vita remote play actually works now that the system is in the wild.
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I've played NSF for about 2 hrs. I love being a cop, majority all drive are racers, and if you have a voice chatter, they HATE being busted from an online player.
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Gonna start adding a bunch of you goons from the spreadsheet now, I'll be playing BF4 mostly all day after 2PM EST
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I'm logged into my account but PS store but it's not recognizing that I have PS+ It's just telling to buy + Is this happening for anyone . Also how do I manage/view game update progress?
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That's a common problem, you didn't lose plus. Just log out and log back in.
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Been playing Resogun remotely with my Vita. My god, so amazing. The future is here. Greatness has arrived.
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Repostin' Can someone check the audio settings and see what formats it supports over optical or already running on one of those TOSLINK-RCA things.
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Anybody try out the Pulse headset yet?
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gameday posted:Anybody try out the Pulse headset yet? Pulse Elite works if you plug it into the DS4 with the 3.5mm stereo jack. Pulse Elite doesn't work wirelessly. The 7.1 emulated surround sound and other ps3 only features don't work. The mute button also doesn't work. Pulse regular the jury is still out on but I'm going to guess it won't work since it's wireless usb. I'll find out tonight when I bring my ps4 home.
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I was trying out the twitch streaming earlier and it worked pretty well! I was playing on my TV and watching on my monitor and the bitrate didn't crap out. I wanted to get a new avatar on the PSN store but the PS4 version doesn't have avatars apparently. PS3 ones carry over so I guess I gotta go use that old thing
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