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NtotheTC posted:I think most goons, myself included, would happily take an uncompetative championship right now, provided its not Red Bull winning it. Yep. Especially as there's a realistic prospect of an intrateam batle. CratSock posted:He leveraged his position as president of the Constructors Association to allow the cars for a few more races, after which they would be voluntarily withdrawn, but the Commission Sportive of the FIA actually stepped in and declared them illegal. The results from the one race they were used (with a win and a retirement) remained legit. This isn't entirely accurate, the car was never ruled illegal. They were told that would happen for the next year but voluntarily pulled it after the one race. The designer, Gordon Murray talks about it in some detail in the podcast here - http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/multimedia/audio-podcasts/
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NtotheTC posted:I think most goons, myself included, would happily take an uncompetative championship right now, provided its not Red Bull winning it. I disagree. I don't want Vettel to win again either but I'd rather he win in a close, exciting championship, than have Mercedes run away with it all season. I've been watching F1 for 20 years, and while this isn't the worst it's been, I'm starting to consider doing other things with my time 
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If you want to see flagrant disregard of rules just take a look at the 1980-1982 Formula 1 seasons.
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I think it’s way too early to say Mercedes have already locked up the championship. They are obviously the class of the field now but there are an awful lot of races to go, and crazier things have happened. But if they do keep their dominance up, watching Lewis and Nico battle it out wouldn’t be the worst thing to watch. I’ve got my fingers crossed for RBR getting their first three race results tossed in the trash for their bullshit sensor. If that happens this will automatically be the most entertaining season in a long while.
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poopzilla posted:I think it’s way too early to say Mercedes have already locked up the championship. They are obviously the class of the field now but there are an awful lot of races to go, and crazier things have happened. But if they do keep their dominance up, watching Lewis and Nico battle it out wouldn’t be the worst thing to watch. They'd spectacularly spit their dummies out too and hopefully they'd gently caress off.
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NtotheTC posted:I think most goons, myself included, would happily take an uncompetative championship right now, provided its not Red Bull winning it. This, op!!!
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NtotheTC posted:I think most goons, myself included, would happily take an uncompetative championship right now, provided its not Red Bull winning it. Kinda makes you an rear end in a top hat. I'd rather have a nail biter with RB or Mercedes coming out on top so long as it comes down to the last lap of the last race. I don't want to see anyone walk away with it, no matter what team.
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front wing flexing posted:I'd rather have a nail biter with RB or Mercedes coming out on top so long as it comes down to the last lap of the last race. The kind of fan that got us double points, gentleman.
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I'm still in denial that the double points race exists. I keep thinking they're going to change it back some time.
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Its such a gloriously bad idea that it would be fitting that Vettel wins it after punting a mercedes off the track and wins the championship by a single point.
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nsaP posted:I'm still in denial that the double points race exists. I keep thinking they're going to change it back some time.
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front wing flexing posted:Kinda makes you an rear end in a top hat. I'd rather have a nail biter with RB or Mercedes coming out on top so long as it comes down to the last lap of the last race. I don't want to see anyone walk away with it, no matter what team. Look at this bad opinion.
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serious gaylord posted:Its such a gloriously bad idea that it would be fitting that Vettel wins it after punting a mercedes off the track and wins the championship by a single point. It will be really stupid if the championship leader is leading by 49 points, dominates most of the race, then has a mechanical problem and drops out, and the second place driver in the championship takes the win and the championship, which will totally happen to Lewis.
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gret posted:It will be really stupid if the championship leader is leading by 49 points, dominates most of the race, then has a mechanical problem and drops out, and the second place driver in the championship takes the win and the championship, which will totally happen to Lewis. If that happens then Lewis will become the WMDC for life but as is always said the driver who deserves to be the champion is the the driver with the most points so we will have to accept 5ebastian Vettel as the greatest driver who ever lived when he secures his fifth championship in such a fashion.
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MZ posted:I disagree. I don't want Vettel to win again either but I'd rather he win in a close, exciting championship, than have Mercedes run away with it all season. I've been watching F1 for 20 years, and while this isn't the worst it's been, I'm starting to consider doing other things with my time In 1988/89 McLaren run away with it and those 2 are considered classic seasons. People seem to be completely ignoring that 2 drivers are in for the championship at worst. It's not like when Red Bull is quick and you know it'll be Vettel.
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So when did Lotus start shilling the Microsoft cloud? Are they really that hard up for money?
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MattD1zzl3 posted:The kind of fan that got us double points, gentleman. Oh gently caress you, the double points thing is stupid but I'm hardly the first fan to want a championship to come down to the last race. In fact, it's what most of you mouth-breathers have been crying about for years in these threads that you wanted.
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Cart Cam posted:So when did Lotus start shilling the Microsoft cloud? Are they really that hard up for money? Almost all of their sponsors are business related. It makes sense when looking at their other sponsors.
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They added the Richard Mille sponsorship this year too, to compete in the hideously ugly watches game with Ferrari's Hublot sponsorship.
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It's a long season, so give it a chance please. I hope RBR doesn't win a race this year.
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Horner on Vettel swearing in all his media interviews:quote:"He should be applauded for saying what he thinks" Swearing is cool.
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So is there a possibility that Red Bull will be Disqualified for the Australian-Malaysian-Bahrain GPs? Or did they play by the rules in Malaysia?
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marsisol posted:So is there a possibility that Red Bull will be Disqualified for the Australian-Malaysian-Bahrain GPs? Or did they play by the rules in Malaysia? Yeah, they're going all-in on their special snowflake of a sensor. So like a said earlier, fingers crossed! I really hope this bites them in the rear end so hard
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poopzilla posted:Yeah, they're going all-in on their special snowflake of a sensor. So like a said earlier, fingers crossed! Wow that seems positively insane. They must be very, very confident (full of poo poo). A part of me hopes to see a Red Bull 1-2 in Bahrain, only to have it taken away.
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krushgroove posted:IIRC Lee said she didn't want to present the show, but maybe that was a statement for the public? The thing i liked about the BBC was the way they covered everything from the team, the driver and the technical stuff. Sky just seems to be an old drivers club that almost never mention the other stuff unless its a team principle gushing over their driver. Without Eddie to balance out DC's bias (both RB and driver) its getting more like Sky's Off topic a bit for those who have read the regulations. Is it explicitly stated that the fuel sensor has to be on the only fuel line between the tanks and the engine? If not then just have it on its own little loop with a fuel pump that will pump at 50kg/hr.
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Foxtrot_13 posted:Off topic a bit for those who have read the regulations. Is it explicitly stated that the fuel sensor has to be on the only fuel line between the tanks and the engine? If not then just have it on its own little loop with a fuel pump that will pump at 50kg/hr. What are the implications of that explicit positioning of the sensor? I thought RBR's issue was that they were just using their own sensor, not the FIA-mandated sensor.
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The FIA posted:5.10.4 Only one homologated FIA fuel flow sensor may be fitted to the car which must be placed wholly within the fuel tank. It's fairly cut and dry, for the FIA.
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That was a pretty big disparity between HOUR LUIS and Rosberg, was there maybe a bit of sandbagging to hold off the rest of the field by Rosberg or was his setup just not that great? I guess maybe he was scrapping a bit at the beginning to let lewis get away or something and couldn't claw his way back? RB look pretty good considering they're allegedly still down on power on the mercs (and everyone else), not that I'm looking forward to their imminent domination.
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Spaced God posted:Red Bull's Christian Horner: "We intentionally sabotaged the FIA sensors at Malaysia." You're gonna feel really silly when it turns out to be true.
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dreesemonkey posted:That was a pretty big disparity between HOUR LUIS and Rosberg, was there maybe a bit of sandbagging to hold off the rest of the field by Rosberg or was his setup just not that great? I guess maybe he was scrapping a bit at the beginning to let lewis get away or something and couldn't claw his way back? Definitely something about set up or driving style. Lewis' engineer said over team radio that Nico was struggling with rear grip. To me that either means he's not as good at managing the torque as Lewis is yet, or something about Nico's set up was making the car harder on the tyres.
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The irony is that Hour Lewham was always said to destroy his tyres. Driving with his crotch instead of his head. Either he has matured or that was all bullshit, as is the way in F1.
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thegasman2000 posted:The irony is that Hour Lewham was always said to destroy his tyres. Driving with his crotch instead of his head. Either he has matured or that was all bullshit, as is the way in F1. Hes probably just adapted to the massive jump in rear wheel torque better than Rosberg. He was much easier on his fuel consumption too so he clearly had a smoother driving style. Although that far out in front he could lift+coast a lot more.
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serious gaylord posted:Hes probably just adapted to the massive jump in rear wheel torque better than Rosberg. He was much easier on his fuel consumption too so he clearly had a smoother driving style. Although that far out in front he could lift+coast a lot more. But this goes back to the Jenson Mclaren days, Old Jenson has the measure of him regarding tyres bull... I know Lewis likes a twitchy rear end so perhaps its just a setup preference coming from the new torquey engines (Powertrains)
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thegasman2000 posted:I know Lewis likes a twitchy rear end Lets ask Sutil.
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thegasman2000 posted:The irony is that Hour Lewham was always said to destroy his tyres. Driving with his crotch instead of his head. Either he has matured or that was all bullshit, as is the way in F1. Lewis did used to shred his tyres. He got better. A couple of seasons not being at the top have really improved him as an all round driver, I doubt we'll see him crash into a stationary car in the pit lane again.
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Zombywuf posted:Lewis did used to shred his tyres. He got better. A couple of seasons not being at the top have really improved him as an all round driver, I doubt we'll see him crash into a stationary car in the pit lane again. Schumacher was similar in '92-93. Ross Brawn said he was hard on his tyres and in '92 he bumped into a lot of people.
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Sulman posted:Schumacher was similar in '92-93. Ross Brawn said he was hard on his tyres and in '92 he bumped into a lot of people. Well to be fair he just focused that "bumping into people" at his rivals instead of getting rid of it all together.
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pik_d posted:Well to be fair he just focused that "bumping into people" at his rivals instead of getting rid of it all together. Good strategy, imo.
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