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punakone posted:There is currently some hubbub here over a possible Russian disinformation campaign waged against Finland: There has been a lot of strange stuff going on around the Baltic lately. For example Swedish intelligence recently noticed Russians have been buying up large amounts of local tourist maps, like as if they wanted to equip large amounts of personnel with them. Which makes little sense from a covops standpoint, because then why wouldn't they just buy one and make copies? Mind games with Swedish intelligence? It appears Latvia and Lithuania has banned Russian tv for a period of 3 months, saying the channels "programs were biased and likely aimed to incite discord". So they are definitely worried about the threat of Russia trying to much poo poo up and incite the local Russian minorities. http://bigstory.ap.org/article/latvia-lithuania-ban-russian-state-tv-broadcasts
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Courthouse posted:Mind games with Swedish intelligence? They totally do this. We were out with these bog standard boring naval home guard (like the national guard) vessels a few years ago, about to go into a tiny port for the night:  We found an empty Russian embassy car (untouchable) right at our assigned civilian berth for the night, just to rub it in that they knew our sailing plan and our berthing space and no unit is too small and boring to be without interest. We retaliated by placing the cordon juuust on the other side of the car so whoever had to leave his car right there untill we left.  Once a few men were "fishing" from a bridge over to a nearby military installation in the winter, but they hadn't even bothered to make a hole in the ice below. I want you to see me see you.
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http://www.svd.se/nyheter/inrikes/sapo-varnar-for-ryskt-spionage_3442778.svd Säpo (Swedish intelligence) warns for Russian warplanes. Sums up what courthouse posted, its in swedish though. This is getting pretty interesting. Id like to believe that Russia seriously doesnt plan for anything like whats happening in Crimea to happen here or in the Baltics. Though doesnt every state have opplans for stuff like this, even if it isnt happening?
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My dream scenario is that Russia attempts to do a South Ossetia/Abkhazia/Crimea type action to Estonia, Finland intervenes to help a buddy out, and the end result is Continuation War 2: Putin Boogaloo
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Think it's pretty obvious that the US never plans for anything.
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Benagain posted:Think it's pretty obvious that the US never plans for anything. It's because we're really loving good at winging it. Chaos is the natural state of the American military, GiP is proof of this. Having a plan is the first step in having it used against you. We just scream some poo poo about the Alamo and go off on their asses like a rabid spider monkey. And that, my good human being, is what makes America great 
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punakone posted:
(I think you mean warplans) Looking at Georgia and Ukraine, it does not seem like Russia had some genius plan laid out ahead of what happened. Rather they had the resources, planning and will to take advantage of the situation as it evolved. The Baltic is probably safe, but it seems that if the situation would suddenly and unexpectedly change Putin wants to have the option to exploit it as well. And less overtly, use the knowledge that he has the ability to act in a crisis to leverage influence in the area by convincing the near abroad that they'd do best to not antagonize Moscow. Also, a bit of it is almost certainly tit-for-tat over Sweden selling the NSA access to Russian data communications. (Sweden sits on the main cable that links Russia with the rest of the internet, representing some 80% of their internet traffic) http://rt.com/news/sweden-spied-russia-nsa-759/ quote:My dream scenario is that Russia attempts to do a South Ossetia/Abkhazia/Crimea type action to Estonia, Finland intervenes to help a buddy out, and the end result is Continuation War 2: Putin Boogaloo The contingency plans for which calls for people like me to die first, so I vote no. 
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Booblord Zagats posted:It's because we're really loving good at winging it. Chaos is the natural state of the American military, GiP is proof of this. Having a plan is the first step in having it used against you. We just scream some poo poo about the Alamo and go off on their asses like a rabid spider monkey. And that, my good human being, is what makes America great gently caress yeah.
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I recall hearing that Georgia/Ossetia was done with Russia's conventional forces and that Ukraine/Crimea was mostly Spetsnaz (and that this has a bit to do with the scenarios playing out very differently - recall that the Russians took a whole mess of casualties in Georgia). Are there any non-tinfoil sources that talk about this, whether supporting the idea or debunking it? Prima facie it sounds plausible given that Russia's entire force was sans-insignia. (I've also heard hyper paranoid  stuff about Spets from a couple of vets who were stationed at Grafenwoehr in the 80s, but who knows if any of that was ever true).
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The situation in the Ukrainian east is escalating. quote:DONETSK, Ukraine (AP) -- Ukraine's government struggled to stay in control of the country's eastern regions as tensions flared Tuesday in three cities. While the government managed to recapture its regional headquarters and detain dozens of pro-Russian protesters in one city, it said "radicals" were keeping 60 people hostage and threatening them in another city. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_UKRAINE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT Still no reports of any well disciplined "militias" with no insignias showing up. So we are perhaps not quite in Crimea territory yet here.
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Courthouse posted:Still no reports of any well disciplined "militias" with no insignias showing up. So we are perhaps not quite in Crimea territory yet here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ST-eBMo9d0 quote:Good morning!
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Booblord Zagats posted:It's because we're really loving good at winging it. Chaos is the natural state of the American military, GiP is proof of this. Having a plan is the first step in having it used against you. We just scream some poo poo about the Alamo and go off on their asses like a rabid spider monkey. And that, my good human being, is what makes America great 
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Otto Skorzeny posted:Are there any non-tinfoil sources that talk about this, whether supporting the idea or debunking it? Prima facie it sounds plausible given that Russia's entire force was sans-insignia. They had a bunch of eotech sights and other super nice gear, some of which is apparently only given to spetsnaz. Also they seemed pretty good in general, looking professional and continuously de-escalating on the fly, neither of which a regular unit can be trusted with. There was one guy who left his name tag visible and via social media he got tied however accurately to special forces but then again, internet "investigation." So no firm proof, but lots of circumstantial evidence as far as I'm aware.
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It also seems the Ukrainian parliamentary discussions on the proposed constitutional changes are going well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrLuUJqD3c4 A reminder if you're wondering who is who, the Euro thumbrule that if a politician doesn't wear a tie, he's probably a Communist, seems to hold true here
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Snowdens Secret posted:the Euro thumbrule that if a politician doesn't wear a tie, he's probably a Communist 
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Bahgawd I always knew that there Obungler was a commie muslim fascist.
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Booblord Zagats posted:It's because we're really loving good at winging it. Chaos is the natural state of the American military, GiP is proof of this. Having a plan is the first step in having it used against you. We just scream some poo poo about the Alamo and go off on their asses like a rabid spider monkey. And that, my good human being, is what makes America great booblord for mod 2014
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Helldump Immunity. posted:booblord for mod 2014 Only if I can be the sole mod of E/N.
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So the army is cracking down on womens hairstyles. This is of course seen as an attack on blacks. http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/08/politics/army-hairstyle-ban-debate/index.html?hpt=hp_c2 crappy news network posted:
Women should have the same standards for hair as the men, then see how they complain.
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ded posted:Women should have the same standards for hair as the men, then see how they complain. This but unironically.
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FIDEL CASHFLOW posted:This but unironically. All standards, not just hair
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ded posted:So the army is cracking down on womens hairstyles. This is of course seen as an attack on blacks. Just another incident of White Amerikkka forcing people of color to fit within white cultural norms.
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Snowdens Secret posted:All standards, not just hair
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/04/08/north-korea-offical-executed-flamethrower/7475895/ North Korean executed via flamethrower.
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Snowdens Secret posted:All standards, not just hair This, my god this.
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JSARSOM posted:http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/04/08/north-korea-offical-executed-flamethrower/7475895/ North Korea leads the world in sick rear end excecution styles gleep gloop fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Apr 9, 2014 |
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gleep gloop posted:North Korea leads the world in sick
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/08/us-iran-nuclear-usa-breakout-idUSBREA3719I20140408quote:Iran can produce fissile material for an atomic weapon in two months, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry on Tuesday told a Senate hearing in which he faced tough questions from lawmakers about negotiations with Iran over its nuclear program.
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Snowdens Secret posted:http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/08/us-iran-nuclear-usa-breakout-idUSBREA3719I20140408 send in the jews
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:send in the jews Pretty sure that's the Saudi plan in a nutshell
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Democracy has prevailed in Pakistan  quote:A nine-month-old boy charged with planning a murder, threatening police and interfering with state affairs in Pakistan has been granted bail after appearing in court this week. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/ninemonthold-boy-charged-with-attempted-murder-in-pakistan-granted-bail-by-judge-9241959.html
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Neo Duckberg posted:Nine months old and he already thuggin  Kid's a cold hard killer, straight out of the crib
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Glass that duplicitous piece of poo poo country.
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Derek Dominoe posted:Glass this duplicitous piece of poo poo planet.
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