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NtotheTC posted:I only watch F1. Why would I waste time watching lesser drivers and cars when I already watch the pinnacle of motorsport? You're missing out.
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Sulman posted:You're missing out. On the fat chick? yes. On NASCAR? No.
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Apr 17, 2014 14:54
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Well, of course he of all people would say this...quote:Pastor Maldonado fears that Formula 1 drivers could get too scared to battle hard wheel-to-wheel if the FIA continues to hand out penalties for racing incidents. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113501
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Apr 17, 2014 15:28
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Apr 17, 2014 15:29
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Its funny that hes saying people are too afraid to race wheel to wheel yet Lewis and Nico were perfectly happy to.
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Apr 17, 2014 15:30
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The bald faced cheek of that motherfucker gets so far up my nose it raises my hat (if I wore a hat). The sooner Venezuela cuts his funding and he gets arseholed out of the sport the better.
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Apr 17, 2014 15:30
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Poor Pastor just wants to race but people don't want to let him, why wont they let him race? Its a tragedy.
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Apr 17, 2014 15:36
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This is great: http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/04/17/ron-dennis-ayrton-senna/ Some new Prost/Senna words from Ron Dennis.
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Apr 17, 2014 15:40
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A reminder that F1 hero Senna also liked to drive into people.
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Apr 17, 2014 16:12
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animeliker posted:A reminder that F1 hero Senna also liked to drive into people. He had a good reason (winning the WDC) instead of doing it for giggles.
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Apr 17, 2014 16:21
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karoshi posted:He had a good reason (winning the WDC) instead of doing it for fixed that, if you're talking about Pasta
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Apr 17, 2014 17:07
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karoshi posted:He had a good reason (there is no reason but he's dead so we call it "determination" and "resolve" instead of "bad sportsmanship" because humans are like that) instead of doing it for giggles. I fixed this.
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Apr 17, 2014 18:27
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be nice wicka posted:well yes, that's basically just rewording the question. but i find it exceedingly hard to believe that a company that's been building race cars for 40 years and has all the facilities and personnel necessary to build a car would be worse than a brand new operation. that's not to say that they wouldn't still be slower than caterham/marussia in 2015 but some people expect them to be embarrassingly slow and i'd be surprised if that was the case. People act as if a Dallara chassis has never won a race because the HRT car was such poo poo (which it was but for reasons other than not getting paid). Yeah their F1 performance isn't great, but their last outing in F1 (excluding HRT obviously) did net them a few podiums here and there. Also, Dallara builds all of Audi's R8/R10 ALMS cars, and those things are consecutive world champions. So clearly the talent to build a good car is there, you just have to give them the time and money to let them work it out.
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Apr 17, 2014 18:35
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Revive the old Nurburgring race and rename it the Nuremberg Ring.
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Apr 17, 2014 18:39
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darth cookie posted:Quite possibly. Unless they get super lucky and find themselves way more competitive than expected, they should use 2015 as basically 20 rounds of on track testing (mostly to collect data and compare it to their wind tunnel simulations) in preparation for 2016. The worry I would have is that as a new entrant you can probably attract some sponsor money as novelty value and by talking a good game. One year of punting around looking completely hopeless, for any reason, and that'll disappear. Happened to Forti. First year, lots of money, pile of shite car. They built quite a good car for year 2 but had no money to run it with, had to jump into an agreement with a bunch of conmen, went under. MustardFacial posted:People act as if a Dallara chassis has never won a race because the HRT car was such poo poo (which it was but for reasons other than not getting paid). Yeah their F1 performance isn't great, but their last outing in F1 (excluding HRT obviously) did net them a few podiums here and there. Also, Dallara builds all of Audi's R8/R10 ALMS cars, and those things are consecutive world champions. So clearly the talent to build a good car is there, you just have to give them the time and money to let them work it out. They don't design those Audis. F1 in 1988-92 was a very, very different place to now. Dallara can design and build a fabulous spec car. The last time they've really won a head to head battle with their own designs was 90s Formula 3, these days no-one else finds it economical to try. Even so, they've got effectively 9 months to hire a team, design and build a car while being distracted by all those other projects that actually make them money. It's beyond tough.
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:I hate NASCAR for reasons that have nothing to do with NASCAR. I hate it for the coverage it gets to the almost total exclusion of other motorsports in this country. Whatever else is covered at all is covered horribly, except for a few F1 races. I hate it because AMA roadracing is almost totally dead under the ownership of DMG, which I actually know nothing about but I've heard is somehow connected to NASCAR. It's not even possible to legally see the vast majority of motorsports I want to see while living in America, yet NASCAR is featured every weekend all day long on multiple tv channels here. I hate it for reasons that are embarrassing because I know they have nothing to do with NASCAR racing, but it still makes me so loving mad. There's an entire world of awesome poo poo out there, and it's just dead here. Doesn't exist here. The internet is a wonderful resource. Dudley posted:They don't design those Audis. F1 in 1988-92 was a very, very different place to now. Dudley posted:Dallara can design and build a fabulous spec car. The last time they've really won a head to head battle with their own designs was 90s Formula 3, these days no-one else finds it economical to try. They can build a great spec car, and IMO this is the thing that HRT missed. HRT hired Dallara to build them an F1 chassis very quickly for no money, What Dallara delivered was a by-the-books, no nonsense race chassis. It was HRT's (specifically Geoff Willis) job to make that thing competitive. I mean look at this thing:  A more plain F1 car I have not seen. HRT could've very easily made a new nose, spoiler, diffuser, etc. to try to eke some performance out of it but they instead chose to make no changes and then complained that the car was poo poo. If HRT added their own accessories and refinements it still wouldn't have been a fantastic car, but it would've been better. And at the end of the season that's all data you take back to Dallara to make a better car for next year. [edit] fixed image link.
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Oh the 2010 HRT. Barely any sponsors, 4 different drivers - rotating almost every race. Truly the spirit of 90's poo poo teams was in them.
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Apr 17, 2014 19:24
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And yet Sauber seem to have copied their livery
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Apr 17, 2014 19:38
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Wirth1000 posted:Well, of course he of all people would say this... Just goes to show that he hasn't learned anything and really shouldn't be in F1.
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Apr 17, 2014 20:45
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F1 doesn't deserve Pastor.
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Apr 17, 2014 20:51
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ImplicitAssembler posted:Just goes to show that he hasn't learned anything and really shouldn't be in F1. I think Pastor is in F1 just to keep him off the streets. It's a public service really.
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Apr 17, 2014 21:03
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Pastor is going to take his talent to nascar and you're all going to be really sorry, you don't know what you have until you lose it.
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Apr 17, 2014 21:12
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A million Edwards' into a million fences of a million Talladegas, but Pastor.
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Apr 17, 2014 21:14
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Oh my god. I would pay serious money to see Pastor and Danica going at it on track.
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Apr 17, 2014 21:15
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I'd love to see Pastor make a run in the Indycars. Would make Bernie sick to his stomach.
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Apr 17, 2014 21:15
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Stop hating on a proven race winner just because he's brown you racists.
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Apr 17, 2014 21:17
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Pastor is white as gently caress plus of the chosen elite (Chavista).
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Fag Boy Jim posted:I'd love to see Pastor make a run in the Indycars. Would make Bernie sick to his stomach. Yes, because if Pastor needs to be anywhere it needs to be racing on ovals at 220 mph in open wheel cars.
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Apr 17, 2014 21:20
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Personperson14 posted:Yes, because if Pastor needs to be anywhere it needs to be racing on ovals at 220 mph in open wheel cars. He does. The lad is at home fighting wheel to wheel for the win.
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Apr 17, 2014 21:20
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Not sure how aware people are of indycar these days but there are 6 ovals and 9 road courses. Pocono is a unique oval in that it's not really an oval, it's a triangle with 3 straights and 3 corners but I'm counting it as an oval here. Some of the road courses have 2 races scheduled at them so in terms of races there are 6 oval races and 12 road course races. The top level of NASCAR has 2 non oval events too GutBomb fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Apr 17, 2014 |
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Nico Rosberg plans to disuiss concerns with Mercedes team-mate Lewis Hamilton that their fight for victory in Bahrain went "over the line". Losing respect for that kid at the moment.
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Apr 17, 2014 21:42
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NtotheTC posted:Nico Rosberg plans to disuiss concerns with Mercedes team-mate Lewis Hamilton that their fight for victory in Bahrain went "over the line". Can see where he's coming from. The whole 'running the guy alongside you to the edge of the track' thing is getting old and kills off any chance of a decent battle for a position. Lewis is pretty masterful at it and only gets away with it because there's so much concrete run-off at tracks these days.
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Butt Wizard posted:Can see where he's coming from. The whole 'running the guy alongside you to the edge of the track' thing is getting old and kills off any chance of a decent battle for a position. Lewis is pretty masterful at it and only gets away with it because there's so much concrete run-off at tracks these days. That's one of Nico's favorite moves so I don't know why he's complaining about it.
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:I hate NASCAR for reasons that have nothing to do with NASCAR. I hate it for the coverage it gets to the almost total exclusion of other motorsports in this country. Whatever else is covered at all is covered horribly, except for a few F1 races. I hate it because AMA roadracing is almost totally dead under the ownership of DMG, which I actually know nothing about but I've heard is somehow connected to NASCAR. Although I grew up a huge NASCAR fan, and there are elements of the sport I still like. I have to agree. I wish the IRL-CART split would have went differently. I really believe that America is ready to embrace a new form of racing, it just needs someone to take the mantle away.
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Apr 17, 2014 22:47
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NtotheTC posted:Nico Rosberg plans to disuiss concerns with Mercedes team-mate Lewis Hamilton that their fight for victory in Bahrain went "over the line". Same basic article, different tone Going by this article, it seems his only problem was with the one incident and the rest of it was just racing. I do want to see Nico pickup a few more wins this season.
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Yeah, what I got from the BBC article wasn't that he was angry about Hamilton taking up the racing line, more that he felt Hamilton could have done it in a way that made it easier for him to avoid an incident.
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Apr 17, 2014 23:38
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gret posted:I'm sure they'll have a heated discussion all night in Lewis's hotel room. They should invite Sutil, I'm sure they'll find his input useful.
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Wirth1000 posted:Well, of course he of all people would say this... I like this bit: "..after putting the Sakhir incident down to a simple misunderstanding.." the simple misunderstanding being "Pastor, this is formula 1, not stock car racing" "oh.. oh sh.. sorry, my bad" Looking forward to seeing more criminally stupid moves from him as the season progresses.
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