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Mr. Maltose posted:Basically, we need a game that doesn't acknowledge in the narrative that people are bursting into song all the goddamn time but would have mechanical effects. Yeah, this already exists. It's called Rhapsody.
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Well then we need another one  Preferably with musical poo poo in the actual gameplay instead of just the cutscenes.
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Apr 23, 2014 14:33
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I would kill myself before ever voluntarily buying the Blitzball song for Curtain Call. Blitzball Day 3: 60 games in, 4 to go. I can see the light at the end of this godforsaken tunnel, but the pain will never fade. Also, oh my god, Brother is loving godlike
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Apr 23, 2014 14:36
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I'm proud of myself for accidentally figuring this out in FFX. If you give someone Guard, and then give them Evade and Counter, you basically make your entire party immune to physical attacks. Wakka has Guard and E&C on a Capture weapon, so he blocks everything, counters back, and can get a capture. Since it's Wakka he hits pretty hard and can hit most enemies. Rikku has Deathstrike+Capture and is a mugging death machine. Auron has Piercing+Capture just so that he continues hitting hard. I'm on Gagazet but at this rate I will capture 10 of everything straight through to the end of the game.
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Apr 23, 2014 14:38
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MrAristocrates posted:I would kill myself before ever voluntarily buying the Blitzball song for Curtain Call. You know you can get everything you need in Blitzball with only 26 games right
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Apr 23, 2014 15:18
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I optimized really poorly, I know
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Apr 23, 2014 15:19
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Instant Grat posted:You know you can get everything you need in Blitzball with only 26 games right You need to reset all your progress though. I would feel bad resetting my insanely buff Tidus who can score 10 goals a match
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Apr 23, 2014 15:20
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Yeah, I didn't want to rest my progress, especially because this just happened:  
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Apr 23, 2014 15:28
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Can you still exploit the AI and just go behind the goalie with the ball and do something else while waiting or is that fixed for the International Release?
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Apr 23, 2014 15:40
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If I could have just done that then gently caress everything.
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Apr 23, 2014 15:42
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Orgia Carnaval posted:Can you still exploit the AI and just go behind the goalie with the ball and do something else while waiting or is that fixed for the International Release? Yep, that still works. It's how I usually get my win against the Goers in the tournament. Some things never change.
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Apr 23, 2014 15:44
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MrAristocrates posted:If I could have just done that then gently caress everything. I am so sorry.
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Your Dead Gay Son posted:Jfc if you have dlc in the first week maybe just hold off for a week! You do know that's not how video games work, right? Like they're not working on brand new content for it right until the very end, there's a long stretch of testing and poo poo during which the song guys/'level' designers are basically done on the project if they not working on another game or DLC.
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Apr 23, 2014 15:47
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Orgia Carnaval posted:Can you still exploit the AI and just go behind the goalie with the ball and do something else while waiting or is that fixed for the International Release? what the fuuuuuuuuuck seriously, this is blowing my goddamn mind right now, everyone's just swimming in circles
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Apr 23, 2014 15:56
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That's 2002 team based programming for ya.
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Holy poo poo, it's done. My long national nightmare is over. I feel empty.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:You do know that's not how video games work, right? Like they're not working on brand new content for it right until the very end, there's a long stretch of testing and poo poo during which the song guys/'level' designers are basically done on the project if they not working on another game or DLC. Lol it's not like they didn't already have week 1 dlc planned at the beginning of the project. You knew what I meant.
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I'm pretty sure every video game from here on out will have DLC within a week of launch for increased  .Also, sorry about your Blitzball nightmare, MrA. I've been scouring this thread's last 80 or so pages for FFX pointers so I don't mess anything up before I start HD.
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Mr. Maltose posted:Well then we need another one You'd think Kingdom Hearts would be perfect for this if they actually put some effort into it. Too bad they screwed it up in 2.
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There's always room for second chances.
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Your Dead Gay Son posted:Lol it's not like they didn't already have week 1 dlc planned at the beginning of the project. You knew what I meant. Bregor posted:I'm pretty sure every video game from here on out will have DLC within a week of launch for increased I'm no expert in video game production, but I feel like before the age of DLC, there just would have been nothing at all. They would have said "These are the songs", and that's all you would have gotten, as opposed to now, when they can make new things to add to it after that point while testing and everything is going on. Would it honestly make you feel better about it if they just arbitrarily waited like two months and released something that was already done after final production on the printed game had stopped but before it actually shipped, just because you hate week 1 DLC?
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morallyobjected posted:I'm no expert in video game production, but I feel like before the age of DLC, there just would have been nothing at all. They would have said "These are the songs", and that's all you would have gotten, as opposed to now, when they can make new things to add to it after that point while testing and everything is going on. Would it honestly make you feel better about it if they just arbitrarily waited like two months and released something that was already done after final production on the printed game had stopped but before it actually shipped, just because you hate week 1 DLC? It depends. If the DLC is literally just bonus content like extra songs or costumes or whatever then I'm fine with it. But games like XIII-2 that make you pay extra for crucial scenarios that are relevant to the plot (and the sequel it seems) just feels like bad development, or a cash grab, or both.
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If you do the Blitzball exploit your guys don't gain experience though so it's not like all is lost. They get exp every time they pass or shoot or fight, if you stay behind the goal I think the other teams start to out level you. But at that point you should have everything anyway soooo
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Bregor posted:It depends. If the DLC is literally just bonus content like extra songs or costumes or whatever then I'm fine with it. But games like XIII-2 that make you pay extra for crucial scenarios that are relevant to the plot (and the sequel it seems) just feels like bad development, or a cash grab, or both. None of the "plot critical" pieces of dlc are really that plot critical, lightnings dlc tells you what you kind of essentially already knew, just a bit more explicitly The real problematic piece of ffxiii-2 dlc is sazhs since it turns what's a tedious nightmare (earning casino coins) into a joke and if you don't have it you will spend literally hours trying to get everything you need, including two of the best weapons in the game and a bunch of fragments It's the most unsettling because the games they lock away in the dlc in addition to being actually the fun ones to play, they show up in the main game- you just can't play them. So it's clear at some point the dev team made the whole serendipity side thing as intentionally terrible as possible to incentivize you to get the dlc, which is kind of terrible NieR Occomata fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Apr 23, 2014 |
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:If you do the Blitzball exploit your guys don't gain experience though so it's not like all is lost. They get exp every time they pass or shoot or fight, if you stay behind the goal I think the other teams start to out level you. But at that point you should have everything anyway soooo I was on the penultimate game of the last league I needed to play get the Sigil so it affected nothing. Also Brother was outleveling the enemy players by about 25 levels so yeah.
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Bregor posted:I've been scouring this thread's last 80 or so pages for FFX pointers so I don't mess anything up before I start HD. Is anyone here capable of just playing through a game and enjoying it? People study less for their exams than what you people do for FFX.
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FFX is a lot like FFXII in that 90% of it's gameplay lies in its meta and preparation, it's no real surprise that it gets all of these preparation posts
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Attitude Indicator posted:Is anyone here capable of just playing through a game and enjoying it? People study less for their exams than what you people do for FFX. I did that when it was first released twelve years ago. I meandered through games because I was in school and had a ton of time to do so. Now I want to get everything and not gently caress around with multiple playthroughs, so I read a little here and there to gather info before I play something. Also I hate missables. I blame the Zodiac Spear. 
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The old saying "different strokes for different folks" applies here. Also bear in mind a number of people are re-playing FFX and have already done the "just playing through" run. There are a lot of things that get walled off throughout FFX. People just want to make sure they'll be able to enjoy the postgame content without having to jump through hoops or cheese superbosses just to get sweet loot.
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Enallyniv posted:There are a lot of things that get walled off throughout FFX. People just want to make sure they'll be able to enjoy the postgame content without having to jump through hoops or cheese superbosses just to get sweet loot. This is the main problem and the primary reason for all of the preparation posts. It is really a shame that they didn't take the time to fix this aspect of the game before the releasing the HD version.
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Tales of the Abyss' sidequests broke me forever. I can't play RPGs any more without knowing exactly when I'm going to miss things.
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And of course like 5 mins later i get 13 balloons 0 birds
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Enallyniv posted:There are a lot of things that get walled off throughout FFX. People just want to make sure they'll be able to enjoy the postgame content without having to jump through hoops or cheese superbosses just to get sweet loot. Xavier434 posted:This is the main problem and the primary reason for all of the preparation posts. It is really a shame that they didn't take the time to fix this aspect of the game before the releasing the HD version. But the postgame of EVERY Final Fantasy are just Superbosses to grind through/cheese and hoops to jump through to get the shiniest of equipment just to max out your numbers even though you've been able to one shot most of the non-sidequest bosses for like 30 hours. There's nothing to enjoy if you don't enjoy that.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:But the postgame of EVERY Final Fantasy are just Superbosses to grind through/cheese and hoops to jump through to get the shiniest of equipment just to max out your numbers even though you've been able to one shot most of the non-sidequest bosses for like 30 hours. There's nothing to enjoy if you don't enjoy that. Yes, but none of them wall things off quite as hard as FFX does (see also: blocking off Destruction Spheres/Anima, the Sun Sigil, etc) if you don't do things just right the first time.
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Kyrosiris posted:Yes, but none of them wall things off quite as hard as FFX does (see also: blocking off Destruction Spheres/Anima, the Sun Sigil, etc) if you don't do things just right the first time. FFXIIs zodiac spear FF8s GFs. ff8s gfs Ffiv ds augments
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Occupation posted:FFXIIs zodiac spear Zodiac Spear is stupid and honestly not even that necessary (I'd rather use Tournesol and Masamune + GG myself). Every drawable GF is available in Ultimecia's Castle if you forget it the first time. Touche.
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I like Blitzball but it's become really boring now that I have such an overpowered team. The only challenge was the Al Bhed Psyches and now that I've signed their keeper then that's gone out the window too. Do league prizes change when you reload before checking them like tourney ones do, incidentally, or am I going to have to play two more leagues before I get my sigil?
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I was speaking more about the nondrawable gfs like doom train, who iirc you have to summon before disc 4 right? Or Diablos becoming almost impossible to beat after a certain point Also omegas draw able at the castle?
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