Which version ya gettin? This poll is closed. |
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Duck Hunt Dog | 412 | 18.24% | |
Duck Hunt Dog | 226 | 10.00% | |
Duck Hunt Dog | 433 | 19.17% | |
Waluigi | 1188 | 52.59% | |
Total: | 2259 votes |
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They don't take spots but if that character didn't exist, that time spent would go to something else, either tweaking the game to make it better, adding more stages, or working on a different character. It's really pointless to argue the semantics of it.
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 16:42 |
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# ? May 16, 2024 02:52 |
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...zero suit samus owns
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 16:42 |
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Excels posted:Didn't they animefy her, make her eyes/boobs bigger and make her cry and ask for help a lot, etc etc? quote:3. the word is kinda hosed up as a whole when you think about it (how dare this woman not be smart and also want to have sex) but that part there doesnt apply even to other M samus. ThePhenomenalBaby posted:...zero suit samus owns empty quote
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 16:42 |
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The only way to solve this is to go back in time and assassinate Team Ninja to prevent Other M from ever being made
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 16:42 |
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PantsBandit posted:I guess I never really understood why ZSS needed to be a character in the first place. I mean obviously normal Samus is what everybody associates with the series. She really seems to have no purpose other than sex appeal. I mean if you like playing as her that's fine I'm just talking about why she was added in the first place. I'm pretty sure they made ZSS and Sheik into separate characters this time around to even out the male to female ratio a bit. Which is why it's odd they still used the male AC Villager and Olimar as the main representatives of their respective franchises for now, even though those both have female equivalents now and Olimar is no longer the main protagonist of Pikmin. It's probably because they are a bit more recognizable, but I still expect they will include the female Villager and Britanny as alternates for them, just like how the male Wii Fit trainer is an alternate of the female one.
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 16:43 |
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Excels posted:The only way to solve this is to go back in time and assassinate Ninja Theory to prevent Other M from ever being made
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 16:43 |
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Quest For Glory II posted:There won't be silhouette issues because the 3DS has black outlines and the Wii U version is HD, so what does it matter. I would think that having heavy outlines would look worse when the character is in profile? While the Wii U is in HD having more visibility is still better in a visually busy game like Smash.
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 16:44 |
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Excels posted:The only way to solve this is to go back in time and assassinate Ninja Theory to prevent Other M from ever being made That was Team Ninja, and I'm pretty sure just about everything TN did was at the behest of Sakamoto.
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 16:44 |
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Excels posted:The only way to solve this is to go back in time and assassinate Ninja Theory to prevent Other M from ever being made 1.) Ninja Theory ruined DMC, Not Metroid 2.) Sakamoto is to blame for Other M. Team Ninja had to follow his stupid orders.
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 16:44 |
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Endorph posted:That'd prevent DmC from being made, not Other M. Other M was Team Ninja. Two completely separate companies. wow maybe we should go back in time and just assassinate both of them
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 16:44 |
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How far back in time? Because Ninja Gaiden Black was pretty cool.
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 16:45 |
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Go back in time to assassinate and destroy all video games. It's the only way.
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 16:45 |
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But did they really have to give her heels?
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 16:45 |
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I really hate the whole "character slot" argument when it comes to representation and roster choices. I doubt Rosalina directly "took" the slot from Waluigi. Little Mac was long overdue and didn't "steal" his slot from anyone else, yet there are people out there (though not in this thread) who hate that choice for only that reason. Wii Fit Trainer fulfills the "weird" niche that Sakurai always liked doing and probably doesn't factor in whether or not Mewtwo makes the cut. I'll admit that my mind has drifted towards "What newcomers would make for an awesome CG trailer?" even though that's even more arbitrary. (Takamaru? With samurai and that catchy theme, yes. Yet another Ike/Roy replacement? Wouldn't excite me, but maybe FE fans.) But you can probably make a nice trailer from anyone. I just like imagining how cool the newcomer videos will look, because that's usually the highlight of whatever SSB news we get.
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 16:46 |
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Andorra posted:But did they really have to give her heels? Her heels make her stronger. Don't ask how that works Color Printer posted:Go back in time to assassinate and destroy all video games. It's the only way.
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 16:46 |
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Famous TV Dad posted:I would think that having heavy outlines would look worse when the character is in profile? The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Apr 24, 2014 |
# ? Apr 24, 2014 16:47 |
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Quest For Glory II posted:Why only her character and not everyone else? Is there nothing iconic about her that would be recognizable from a distance? Because that makes the inclusion even more suspect, if it leads to visual confusion. Is it only her character? Off the top of my head both Marth and Mario stand with their bodies fully facing the camera while looking to the side. I have no opinion on whether having a skin tight space suit variation of an existing character is a good idea tho lmao
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 16:50 |
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PantsBandit posted:I guess I never really understood why ZSS needed to be a character in the first place. Because that last section of Zero Mission was really cool.
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 16:51 |
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Famous TV Dad posted:Is it only her character? Off the top of my head both Marth and Mario stand with their bodies fully facing the camera while looking to the side.
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 16:51 |
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...zero suit samus owns tho
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 16:52 |
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Endorph posted:I don't know about Mario, but Marth's definitely fanservice for a certain audience. if they were really trying to appeal to that demographic 90% of his model would be his beautiful face...
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 16:54 |
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This thread right now reminds me of Moneyball. While some people talk about how good players/characters are in the actual game, lots of other people are focusing solely on their appearances. The bottom line is that ZSS is a fantastic character in Brawl, and will likely be a fantastic character again.
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 16:55 |
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ThePhenomenalBaby posted:...zero suit samus owns tho Agreed. Please turn Dark Samus into a playable character so I can have three Samus' then make morph ball Samus a separate character so there can be a Samus-For-All Brawl.
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 16:56 |
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Excels posted:Her heels make her stronger. They're Rocket Heels. Which could be the song/album title of a second-rate hair metal band if you squint.
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 16:56 |
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Marth's poses are not great either, like you said. This pose is weak as poo poo for example, where's the line of action: Having the characters face the camera just looks really awkward and results in awkward looking rigging. e: Also in terms of line of action, Samus's new pose is actually going the wrong way, she's leaning way back instead of angling forward which doesn't really make sense. It's very DC Comics. The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Apr 24, 2014 |
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Famous TV Dad posted:if they were really trying to appeal to that demographic 90% of his model would be his beautiful face... Marth Organism Designed Only For Killing?
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 16:56 |
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Obviously they need to make Marth's poses in a way that they can fit girl Marth in the same moveset, like male and female WFT
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 16:59 |
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Excels posted:Marth Organism Designed Only For Killing? Marth Organism Designed Only for Kawaii.
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 17:00 |
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Excels posted:Brawl ZSS was based entirely on Zero Mission. Her powers and her poses were based on her sprites. Which were functional. InterrupterJones posted:This thread right now reminds me of Moneyball. While some people talk about how good players/characters are in the actual game, lots of other people are focusing solely on their appearances. The bottom line is that ZSS is a fantastic character in Brawl, and will likely be a fantastic character again.
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 17:00 |
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You can't judge an animation based on one frame. Well, you can, but it is not a fair assessment.
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 17:01 |
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DoctorWhat posted:Marth Organism Designed Only for Kawaii. Biological Intelligence Shoe Horned Into Entertainment
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 17:02 |
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There's a lot of stuff wrong with the new Zero Suit Samus design even if you look past the sexism. The fact that they gave her suit a gloss that makes it look like she came out of a Gamecube-era Sonic game really stands out to me as making her look awful.
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 17:03 |
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This conversation is almost as fun as the same one that occurs in the comic movie threads whenever a poster comes out with women in stupid poses. Goons seem simultaneously like the most ready to be offended by blatant sexism and the most likely to still spend their money on the product. We'll just complain about it first.
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 17:09 |
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JordanKai posted:There's a lot of stuff wrong with the new Zero Suit Samus design even if you look past the sexism. The fact that they gave her suit a gloss that makes it look like she came out of a Gamecube-era Sonic game really stands out to me as making her look awful. She even has the glossy texture in that Tomodachi Life ad.
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 17:09 |
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I think at the last second they should replace Marth with Excellus just to see the fangirl reaction
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 17:11 |
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Maybe she got her form fitting catsuit it made out of some new duty free space materials? Hard to say i wish i could ask sakurai
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 17:12 |
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PantsBandit posted:I think at the last second they should replace Marth with Excellus just to see the fangirl reaction They were both voiced by Spike Spencer...
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 17:12 |
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I actually kinda dig the gloss/neon shine her suit has, but maybe I just have really gaudy taste.
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 17:13 |
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PantsBandit posted:I think at the last second they should replace Marth with Excellus just to see the fangirl reaction Alternate Wario costume, for sure.
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 17:13 |
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# ? May 16, 2024 02:52 |
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I think the heels are cool because they seem to me like they jets in them to make her kicks stronger and the idea of Samus jet kicking someone in the face is hysterical.
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# ? Apr 24, 2014 17:14 |