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Arianya
Nov 3, 2009

jonjonaug posted:

Let me help you with that decision.

Here's what the cover of volume 3 looks like (NSFW). Here's one illustration of what is apparently a scene from the books (NSFW). Here is another (NSFW).

Seriously for all of my complaining about light novels I've certainly sat through worse over in VN land to get to the "good parts", but that's harder with anime and people are kind of willfully ignoring and understating the unsavory aspects of NGNL right now in favor of HEY GUYS JOJO/ACE ATTORNEY REFERENCES, particularly when recommending the show to others. The basic premise actually does look pretty cool by taking the "dorks get transported to game world" premise and not even trying to hide how ridiculous it is and just having fun with it, but you should probably be aware of the awful looking bits too before jumping in.

While obviously the images that you linked should be taken as a worrying sign, the worst thats been shown in the anime so far is some pretty (unfortunately) anime standard of "anime protag falls over and gropes chest of female character". Hell, they've even made a point of specifically addressing how Shiro and Shora are brother and sister in a much more normal (as in, not creepy) manner (if very co-dependent), instead of dumb rear end incest subplot. Hell, Shora even makes a specific point that he doesn't see his sister that way because a) he's her sister and b) she's "like 11".

I was kinda worried about it after the first episode, for the obvious potential incest bullshit, but episodes 2 and 3 have been fun and great, with the show actually going down a interesting path.

e: Also, theres a thead up here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3628080

Arianya fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Apr 24, 2014

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Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit
ty for these before/after comparisons of anime porn

Opposing Farce
Apr 1, 2010

Ever since our drop-off service, I never read a book.
There's always something else around, plus I owe the library nineteen bucks.

jonjonaug posted:

Let me help you with that decision.

Yeeeeepppp, that sure is some anime right there.

Maybe if I've got some spare time I'll give it the three-episode test but I'm feeling like the highs'll have to be pretty drat high to justify those lows. Now that there's a thread up I'll move this over there if I do end up watching it.

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

if i don't look past blatant pedophilia i won't get to enjoy a stupid fantasy where being good at video games means absolutely anything, and that's a price i'm not willing to pay

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.

Cake Attack posted:

if i don't look past blatant pedophilia i won't get to enjoy a stupid fantasy where being good at video games means absolutely anything, and that's a price i'm not willing to pay

It's nice to see there are still some real anime fans on this forum.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Emalde posted:

http://a.pomf.se/zmmuby.webm

No Game No Life is perfect. All of you whiners should go home. :colbert:

I told you guys. I'm riding this trainwreck all the way down.

jonjonaug posted:

Seriously for all of my complaining about light novels I've certainly sat through worse over in VN land to get to the "good parts", but that's harder with anime

Seems like it'd be easier to skip to good bits with anime what with fast forward being available from the start and the fact that a VN usually requires you to actively contribute to advancing things.

\/\/fair enough.

Namtab fucked around with this message at 05:59 on Apr 24, 2014

jonjonaug
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax

Namtab posted:

Seems like it'd be easier to skip to good bits with anime what with fast forward being available from the start and the fact that a VN usually requires you to actively contribute to advancing things.

You'd think that, but in my experience the awful parts in VNs are usually all relegated to individual scenes that you can just hold CTRL until they're over. Whereas with anime it tends to be more pervasive throughout a work and harder to see coming, and therefore harder to ignore. Like, to avoid dumb poo poo in a VN I'd have to hold CTRL for 20 seconds every 2-10 hours and it's usually really obvious when something retarded is about to happen, but for avoiding dumb poo poo in a light novel adaptation with particularly bad content I'd have to click around a bunch to fast forward multiple times an episode, and even then you'd have random pantyshots or cameltoe or dumb camera angles all over the place. That's most of the reason why I can stand reading 18+ visual novels but light novel adaptations drive me up the wall.

devtesla
Jan 2, 2012


Grimey Drawer
I worry about you jonjonaug.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Allarion posted:

Does it help that I said that the first episode seemed to have toned down those parts. The 2nd episode continued that trend as well of being less creepy than the source material, but a lot of people backed out regardless. Like you could have linked the LN's version of the bathhouse scene(NSFW), and you can already compare it to episode 2, which was not even close to being that creepy. At the moment, the anime seems to be going out of its way to keep the skeeviness to a minimum.

The picture in the link is pretty much ten times worse than the anime so it's a definite step down from the cheesecake of the LNs. The number of steps may still be an issue though.

Zorak
Nov 7, 2005
Why not just watch Actually Good Things and then maybe read a book or something.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

You mean like a light novel or manga, right?

jonjonaug
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax

Zorak posted:

Why not just watch Actually Good Things and then maybe read a book or something.

Sounds like a plan. Think I'll go read that John Lindqvist novel I've had my eye on this weekend.

Futaba Anzu
May 6, 2011

GROSS BOY

We just got through a season with Kill la Kill which was skeeve levels to the max, it's kind of funny how basically the same thing is happening but with different reactions because it's not made by Trigger.

And I know some nerd is going to argue that the skeevy parts are different so that makes the argument different! gently caress you, no it doesn't. KLK had incestual rape, LITERAL RAPE

Zorak
Nov 7, 2005
I don't think anyone is saying Kill la Kill wasn't skeevy there, and people by and large were pretty grossed as poo poo out about that!

I think the reason people are making a big deal about this here, and now, because this is a thread about the Spring 2014 anime season and not the Kill la Kill thread where people made a rather big deal about how skeevy that poo poo was when it happened. And that the thing you're referring to happened like two dozen episodes in and wasn't the core focus of the entire show, where as No Game No Life has this poo poo built in from its very foundation so, you know, it's kind of like "wait, why are you watching this again?"

But yes let's make yet another dumb thread be about Kill la Kill's weirdness I am sure that will be great!!

Zorak
Nov 7, 2005
Instead, I will post this reminder:

quote:

REMEMBER: There’s a “Three Episode Rule” for season threads. After three episodes have aired for a show, if you wish to discuss the show you need to make a thread for it, or I’ll be probating you!

This is only for specific episode discussion, you can still use this thread for general "you should really check out X, Y just got really worth checking out, is Z any good? Here's some news about W!!" stuff after three episodes for shows W, X, Y, Z air, but if no one can be bothered to make a thread for something to discuss it, then probably no one cares in general.

Mercrom
Jul 17, 2009

pandaK posted:

We just got through a season with Kill la Kill which was skeeve levels to the max, it's kind of funny how basically the same thing is happening but with different reactions because it's not made by Trigger.

And I know some nerd is going to argue that the skeevy parts are different so that makes the argument different! gently caress you, no it doesn't. KLK had incestual rape, LITERAL RAPE
There's a pretty big loving difference between a KLK or HBO or Starz level of sleaziness and 11 year old cameltoe. There's also a big difference in between having the villain who wants to destroy the world be the rapist, and having the self insert protagonist who the first time he has any real power in his life decides to make someone into a love slave, who then proceeds to get hysterical about this situation for comedic effect.

KLK fetishizes strong women. NGNL is a misogynistic and pedophilic power fantasy. If you can't see the difference between those things, then gently caress you too.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS
There is a difference between the two, but your labeling of NGNL with the latter is a little troublesome in that it's not true.

Mercrom
Jul 17, 2009

Eej posted:

There is a difference between the two, but your labeling of NGNL with the latter is a little troublesome in that it's not true.
Yeah I'm sure it's all deeply satirical. It's The Colbert Report of anime.

Chas McGill
Oct 29, 2010

loves Fat Philippe
One of the things I like about ADTRW is that it doesn't seem have nearly as many creeps and paedos as other places where anime is discussed. There are some though, and it's hilarious to see embarrassed siscons falling over themselves to justify watching a gross show.

In better news, apparently the new Yoshiura film, Patema Inverted, is being released on DVD tomorrow in Japan. Apparently it's been licensed for other countries as well, but I can't see anything concrete about that. I'm pissed that I didn't get to see it in the cinema last year.

Mercrom
Jul 17, 2009

Chas McGill posted:

One of the things I like about ADTRW is that it doesn't seem have nearly as many creeps and paedos as other places where anime is discussed. There are some though, and it's hilarious to see embarrassed siscons falling over themselves to justify watching a gross show.
I don't agree with this. I just think people want to watch a show and have fun and then they ignore or rationalize away the show's flaws.

I'm just the kind of pessimist who can't stop picking apart the flaws once I notice them. That's probably not a much better quality.

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit
Aw sweet, I'm gonna check that out. I quite liked those shorts that came out. It's such a weird show.

Delusibeta
Aug 7, 2013

Let's ride together.

Chas McGill posted:

In better news, apparently the new Yoshiura film, Patema Inverted, is being released on DVD tomorrow in Japan. Apparently it's been licensed for other countries as well, but I can't see anything concrete about that. I'm pissed that I didn't get to see it in the cinema last year.

I do know that All the Anime has picked up that licence for the UK market ages ago, and had been touring it around cinemas across the Home Nations for quite a few months now. I actually wouldn't be too surprised if they release it in the next couple of months.

[Edit] Nope, they're still touring. UK release Q4 this year.

Delusibeta fucked around with this message at 13:07 on Apr 24, 2014

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

Chas McGill posted:

One of the things I like about ADTRW is that it doesn't seem have nearly as many creeps and paedos as other places where anime is discussed. There are some though, and it's hilarious to see embarrassed siscons falling over themselves to justify watching a gross show.
That's because most of them got permabanned some 9 years ago (plus a few more when Helldump was around). If you want to keep your sanity never look at ADTRW archives from around 2004 or before.

Chas McGill
Oct 29, 2010

loves Fat Philippe

Delusibeta posted:

I do know that All the Anime has picked up that licence for the UK market ages ago, and had been touring it around cinemas across the Home Nations for quite a few months now. I actually wouldn't be too surprised if they release it in the next couple of months.

[Edit] Nope, they're still touring. UK release Q4 this year.

Fuckssake. I really should've gone down to see the Edinburgh one.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Oh wow, I had forgotten Patema Inverted even existed, so thanks for reminding me and double thanks for letting me know I might be able to watch it reasonably soon.

Delusibeta
Aug 7, 2013

Let's ride together.

Chas McGill posted:

Fuckssake. I really should've gone down to see the Edinburgh one.

Considering All The Anime also organises Scotland Loves Anime in the autumn, I'll be genuinely surprised if it doesn't get another showing in either Glasgow or Edinburgh before release.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS

Mercrom posted:

Yeah I'm sure it's all deeply satirical. It's The Colbert Report of anime.

I dunno dude, you just said that it's far better to watch a villain who can't just stop raping her daughter and hitting her in the vagina over watching a man child freak out that his love potion-esque gimmick worked.

Perhaps it is I who have fallen for your satire. :aaa:

ViggyNash
Oct 9, 2012
Anime Indiana Jones Nanana's Burried Treasure totally owns. If no one else makes one I'll make a thread when I have the time.

Lucy Heartfilia
May 31, 2012


ViggyNash posted:

Anime Indiana Jones Nanana's Burried Treasure totally owns. If no one else makes one I'll make a thread when I have the time.

Hmmm, why does it own? I might give it the three episode test.

Futaba Anzu
May 6, 2011

GROSS BOY

Lucy Heartfilia posted:

Hmmm, why does it own? I might give it the three episode test.

ViggyNash posted:

Anime Indiana Jones

Lucy Heartfilia
May 31, 2012


Well, I'm sold.

Butt Frosted Cake
Dec 27, 2010

Chas McGill posted:

One of the things I like about ADTRW is that it doesn't seem have nearly as many creeps and paedos as other places where anime is discussed. There are some though, and it's hilarious to see embarrassed siscons falling over themselves to justify watching a gross show.

Congrats on your SUPERIOR ANIME TASTE you should get a medal or something. It is funny though I'll give you that, but I can feel the smug coming off of you.

The_Guy
Mar 1, 2004

Eventually they always run out of other people's tiles.

Cake Attack posted:

if i don't look past blatant pedophilia i won't get to enjoy a stupid fantasy where being good at video games means absolutely anything, and that's a price i'm not willing to pay

Anime tends to be made as a composite of various awful fetishes to win over many tiny groups of niche interest nerds. It's no wonder that most shows make you sit through distasteful shite to get to the good stuff (if there is any).

You could play Otaku fetish bingo with the average production.

jackofarcades
Sep 2, 2011

Okay, I'll admit it took me a bit to get into it... But I think I kinda love this!! I'm Spider-Man!! I'm actually Spider-Man!! HA!

Lucy Heartfilia posted:

Well, I'm sold.

Yeah basically everything that implies. Indiana Jones but with high schoolers, a crossdressing maid, a super detective, and some fan service. Well, I guess Indy had some fanservice.

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

Butt Frosted Cake posted:

Congrats on your SUPERIOR ANIME TASTE you should get a medal or something. It is funny though I'll give you that, but I can feel the smug coming off of you.

Nothing better than smugness in a righteous cause. :allears:

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!

jackofarcades posted:

Yeah basically everything that implies. Indiana Jones but with high schoolers, a crossdressing maid, a super detective, and some fan service. Well, I guess Indy had some fanservice.

Yeah, I was gonna say I'm only a few minutes into the first episode but I get the feeling a lot of people here won't like it. I'm already seeing an opportunity for tons of fan service in the future. :v:

Grim Up North
Dec 12, 2011

Dragonatrix posted:

Yeah, I was gonna say I'm only a few minutes into the first episode but I get the feeling a lot of people here won't like it.

I watched the first episode, found it too gross, and dropped it.

Butt Frosted Cake
Dec 27, 2010

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

Nothing better than smugness in a righteous cause. :allears:

He's right but I can't help but find it funny when people act like being normal and well adjusted is an accomplishment worth being smug about. Especially w/r/t something as ridiculous and nerdy as anime.

ViggyNash
Oct 9, 2012

Grim Up North posted:

I watched the first episode, found it too gross, and dropped it.

Yeah, pudding binges are pretty gross. :v:

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a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

We Still Don't Know the Name of the Dusk Maiden of the Lost Ark.

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