Maxwell Lord posted:

The site is jumping the gun a bit calling it "confirmed"- it doesn't look like there's a greenlight, but Legendary at least wants it to happen.

Neowyrm posted:

Next you have to say how much you utterly reviled the film despite still paying enough attention to analyze every single little detail (dusting for fascism-prints) and completely (and most likely purposely) misinterpret all of the information that the film gives you.

That is how to be the true fascismchatter.

Magnus Condomus posted:

Also, search for phallic imagery and queer subtext. With combining robots it isn't very hard.

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

Voltron - AKA GoLion - represents a return to pre-scientific holistic wisdom. GoLion is a sentient robot that predates Christ and was split apart by a nature goddess in order that he can only reach his full power through humble co-operation. Each lion is associated with different classical element: Earth, Wind, Air, Fire and Lightning/Aether.

If this sounds familiar, it's because it's the same plot as Captain Planet And The Planeteers. Ted Turner created the series to broadcast this liberal philosophy to the kids.

The multicultural team works together to eliminate bad characters like Verminous Skumm, a literal rat-person who represents 'crime'. Their ultimate enemy is Zarm - a god who is not 'balanced' like Mother Earth.

Christ is, notably, totally alien to this new-age pagan ideology.

zVxTeflon posted:

the opposite reading is true

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

Which are you referring to?

Magnus Condomus posted:

The opposite of everything you ever say. They are saying that whatever you say, the opposite is also a true and valid reading.

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

Voltron - AKA GoLion - represents a return to pre-scientific holistic wisdom. GoLion is a sentient robot that predates Christ and was split apart by a nature goddess in order that he can only reach his full power through humble co-operation. Each lion is associated with different classical element: Earth, Wind, Air, Fire and Lightning/Aether.

If this sounds familiar, it's because it's the same plot as Captain Planet And The Planeteers. Ted Turner created the series to broadcast this liberal philosophy to the kids.

The multicultural team works together to eliminate bad characters like Verminous Skumm, a literal rat-person who represents 'crime'. Their ultimate enemy is Zarm - a god who is not 'balanced' like Mother Earth.

Christ is, notably, totally alien to this new-age pagan ideology.

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

"What I like is to see the emancipatory potential in institutionalized Christianity. Of course, I don’t mean state religion, but I mean the moment of St. Paul. I find a couple of things in it. The idea of the Gospel, or good news, was a totally different logic of emancipation, of justice, of freedom. For example, within a pagan attitude, injustice means a disturbance of the natural order. In ancient Hinduism, or even with Plato, justice was defined in what today we would call almost fascistic terms, each in his or her place in a just order. Man is the benevolent father of the family, women do their job taking care of the family, worker does his work and so on. Each at his post; then injustice means this hubris when one of the elements wants to be born, i.e. instead of in a paternal way, taking care of his population, the king just thinks about his power and how to exploit it. And then in a violent way, balance should be reestablished, or to put it in more abstract cosmological terms, you have cosmic principles like yin and yang. Again, it is the imbalance that needs to establish organic unities. Connected with this is the idea of justice as paying the price as the preexisting established order is balanced.

But the message that the Gospel sends is precisely the radical abandonment of this idea of some kind of natural balance; the idea of Gospels and the part of sins is that freedom is zero. We begin from the zero point, which is at least originally the point of radical equality. Look at what St. Paul is writing and the metaphors he used. It is messianic, the end of time, differences are suspended. It’s a totally different world whose formal structure is that of radical revolution. Even in ancient Greece, you don’t find that—this idea that the world can be turned on its head, that we are not irreducibly bound by the chains of our past. The past can be erased; we can start from the zero point and establish radical justice, so this logic is basically the logic of emancipation. Which is again why I find any flirting with so-called new-age spiritualities extremely dangerous. It is good to know the other side of the story, at least, when you speak about Buddhism and all of these spiritualities. I am sorry, but Nazis did it all. For Hitler, the Bhagavad Gita was a sacred book; he carried it in his pocket all the time. In Nazi Germany there were three institutes for Tibetan studies and five for the study of different sects of Buddhism."

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Snak posted:

I'm pretty sure we should build a complete conception of how the film is fascist before we see it, that way we can all be surprised and bitch about how while everything thinks the film is fascist, it's actually a neo-liberal fantasy underneath all the fascist trappings.

One Amazon reviewer posted:

He just screams the “My fist, your face” mentality.

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

"What I like is to see the emancipatory potential in institutionalized Christianity. Of course, I don’t mean state religion, but I mean the moment of St. Paul. I find a couple of things in it. The idea of the Gospel, or good news, was a totally different logic of emancipation, of justice, of freedom. For example, within a pagan attitude, injustice means a disturbance of the natural order. In ancient Hinduism, or even with Plato, justice was defined in what today we would call almost fascistic terms, each in his or her place in a just order. Man is the benevolent father of the family, women do their job taking care of the family, worker does his work and so on. Each at his post; then injustice means this hubris when one of the elements wants to be born, i.e. instead of in a paternal way, taking care of his population, the king just thinks about his power and how to exploit it. And then in a violent way, balance should be reestablished, or to put it in more abstract cosmological terms, you have cosmic principles like yin and yang. Again, it is the imbalance that needs to establish organic unities. Connected with this is the idea of justice as paying the price as the preexisting established order is balanced.

But the message that the Gospel sends is precisely the radical abandonment of this idea of some kind of natural balance; the idea of Gospels and the part of sins is that freedom is zero. We begin from the zero point, which is at least originally the point of radical equality. Look at what St. Paul is writing and the metaphors he used. It is messianic, the end of time, differences are suspended. It’s a totally different world whose formal structure is that of radical revolution. Even in ancient Greece, you don’t find that—this idea that the world can be turned on its head, that we are not irreducibly bound by the chains of our past. The past can be erased; we can start from the zero point and establish radical justice, so this logic is basically the logic of emancipation. Which is again why I find any flirting with so-called new-age spiritualities extremely dangerous. It is good to know the other side of the story, at least, when you speak about Buddhism and all of these spiritualities. I am sorry, but Nazis did it all. For Hitler, the Bhagavad Gita was a sacred book; he carried it in his pocket all the time. In Nazi Germany there were three institutes for Tibetan studies and five for the study of different sects of Buddhism."

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Captain Failcon posted:

Uncle Wemus posted:

So is this saying multiculturalism/neoliberalism/new age stuff leads to fascism? That being defined by our differences merely seperates us further into classes?

Lightanchor posted:

I love your bookmarks

computer parts posted:

Yeah having Stormfront listed after mocking someone for seeing fascism in media is kind of .

computer parts posted:

Yeah having Stormfront listed after mocking someone for seeing fascism in media is kind of .

Uncle Wemus posted:

So is this saying multiculturalism/neoliberalism/new age stuff leads to fascism?

zVxTeflon posted:

the opposite reading is true

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

C'mon now. Nobody's that stupid.

DrPaper posted:

I used to think SuperMechaGodzilla was a giant insane weirdo, until the other day when I took a closer look at the Pacific Rim poster, and you know what, he's right. He was always right. I bet you he was even right about the Jews doing WTC.

Uncle Wemus posted:

Are there any movies like Pacific Rim (heroes rise up to defeat enemy) that don't frame the enemy as unreasonable monsters who must be eliminated? Or rather have movies like this ever properly targeted the correct definition of enemy? Can't quite figure out how to say it but who does it right?

Not trying to be a jerk I actually want to know.

Uncle Wemus posted:

Are there any movies like Pacific Rim (heroes rise up to defeat enemy) that don't frame the enemy as unreasonable monsters who must be eliminated? Or rather have movies like this ever properly targeted the correct definition of enemy? Can't quite figure out how to say it but who does it right?

Not trying to be a jerk I actually want to know.

Uncle Wemus posted:

Are there any movies like Pacific Rim (heroes rise up to defeat enemy) that don't frame the enemy as unreasonable monsters who must be eliminated? Or rather have movies like this ever properly targeted the correct definition of enemy? Can't quite figure out how to say it but who does it right?

Not trying to be a jerk I actually want to know.

Uncle Wemus posted:

Are there any movies like Pacific Rim (heroes rise up to defeat enemy) that don't frame the enemy as unreasonable monsters who must be eliminated? Or rather have movies like this ever properly targeted the correct definition of enemy? Can't quite figure out how to say it but who does it right?

Not trying to be a jerk I actually want to know.

Uncle Wemus posted:

Are there any movies like Pacific Rim (heroes rise up to defeat enemy) that don't frame the enemy as unreasonable monsters who must be eliminated? Or rather have movies like this ever properly targeted the correct definition of enemy? Can't quite figure out how to say it but who does it right?

Binary Badger posted:

For content: anybody get the Cherno Alpha NECA figure in yet? Supposedly it has the spring-loaded punch!

Maxwell Lord posted:

Fighting the Kaiju is Charlie work.

Slugworth posted:

Not sure if it's been mentioned here, but he was cast in Pacific Rim because of his rat slaughter speech.