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The trains we want, the anime we deserve. Or vice versa? 
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Apr 26, 2014 03:25
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Wark Say posted:The first thought that came to my mind (and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one) was of a less serious-looking Library Wars. Yeah, pretty much exactly what I thought too.
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Apr 26, 2014 04:47
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So I just finished the 2nd episode of Flag-words-anime. The first half of that was just amazingly funny, and it seems that the students of the school are mostly cameos from other animes.
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Apr 26, 2014 05:42
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When will I get my train racing anime?
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Apr 26, 2014 07:28
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Eej posted:There's supposed to be some dumb jingoistic crap about sneaky Chinese and Koreans trying to bring down glorious Nippon (the nation with the best wizards of course) but it's not really worth getting worked up about because that leads down a very depressing path where even classics are not guiltless. I see...that is interesting. So it's probably like Infinite Stratos wherein the main character is called something to the effect of "Monkey from the East" by some girl who is literally England and "COUNTRY A" tells the JPS to pay for IS training themselves since they made the drat thing. That Gunbuster link was interesting too. I don't agree with a lot of it, like reasons behind name changes and character purposes, but holy hell, the "History of Hawaii" was insane. For those who don't want to check out the site: quote:Briefly, the Gunbuster timeline indicates that in the year 1996 Japan buys Hawaii from the U.S.A. In 2008 America regrets the decision and attacks Pearl Harbor, sparking the Second Japanese-American War. The invaders are eventually crushed and the war ends in 2012, with Hawaii remaining in Japanese hands. I will let the reader digest this "history" at his or her leisure.
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Apr 26, 2014 09:48
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I just noticed that Crunchy did a mid-season pickup for Future Card Buddyfight. I had seen that name come up in prior season threads, but had always assumed it was a sarcastic nickname of some other card battling anime, because there's no way there could be a name that dumb and generic.
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Apr 26, 2014 09:52
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So I finished a 3 ep test of Black Bullet. Am I the only one who gets the feeling that it wants to be Gunslinger Girls so bad it hurts?
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Apr 26, 2014 15:00
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Plus Attack on Titan. And since we're aiming for the zero attention span LN reader, we're going to strip out everything interesting about the worldbuilding and make it straight up retarded. Also why is that man from FMA living in the sewers with a dozen little girls? Phobophilia fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Apr 26, 2014 |
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Apr 26, 2014 15:33
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Namtab posted:Am I the only one who gets the feeling that it wants to be Gunslinger Girls so bad it hurts? Nope. I beat you to that little observation 15 page ago. Though Gunslinger Girl is hardly the only thing Black Bullet wants to be. Which is probably why it's such a terribly stupid mess of a show.
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Apr 26, 2014 16:41
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^^You were drowned out by all the puking smileysPhobophilia posted:Also why is that man from FMA living in the sewers with a dozen little girls? The use of little girls in this is (as a nice change) not to pander to creeps (or at least, not the usual brand of creeps) but instead it's to elect a specific emotional response from the viewer. They show the little girls being ostracised, living on the outskirts of town, kicked out of school for being different. The group of them living in the sewers with that one guy is also supposed to elicit that response, because they're literally being forced to live in poo poo and there's only one adult "brave" enough to look after them and treat them as human. Like I said, it really wants to be gunslinger girls, except I remember gunslinger girls being more subtle whereas this is really rubbing your face in little girl misery while yelling "THIS IS SAD DAMNIT. YOU SHOULD BE FEELING SORRY FOR THESE GIRLS". It's really overdone and in your face, almost to the point of parody. I guess you could say that instead of being paedophile porn it's more misery porn to appeal to guys who want a power fantasy in which they "protect" girls. Namtab fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Apr 26, 2014 |
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Apr 26, 2014 16:42
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Blhue posted:I just noticed that Crunchy did a mid-season pickup for Future Card Buddyfight. I had seen that name come up in prior season threads, but had always assumed it was a sarcastic nickname of some other card battling anime, because there's no way there could be a name that dumb and generic. Apparently it's gloriously stupid. For example, they had the singers of the Japanese OP sing the English OP. It sounds exactly how you think it would. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4ha8_FgYs0 I repeat, this is the opening to the ENGLISH version.
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Apr 26, 2014 16:48
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The third episode of Mekaku City Actors has all the explanation you need, on top of being pretty neat in itself. I think I'm gonna like this.
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Apr 26, 2014 19:52
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Ep3 of Mekaku is coming dangerously close to forming a coherent plot. Which might be a bad thing, because that plot isn't really grabbing me yet. Still, I am enjoying the SHAFTy goodness. I think we need a thread? I'd do it myself, but I think it should probably be done by someone familiar with the source material, and that isn't me. Plus, I'm in the middle of watching Hannibal 
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Apr 26, 2014 19:54
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Mekaku ep 4 confirmed the true 3 episode rule test.
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Apr 26, 2014 20:26
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Autonomous Monster posted:Ep3 of Mekaku is coming dangerously close to forming a coherent plot. Which might be a bad thing, because that plot isn't really grabbing me yet. Still, I am enjoying the SHAFTy goodness. If there's a thread, it should be put up by someone who is not familiar with the source material. Anyone who does know it is way too likely to spoil something by accident.
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Apr 26, 2014 20:49
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Einander posted:If there's a thread, it should be put up by someone who is not familiar with the source material. Anyone who does know it is way too likely to spoil something by accident. Alright then. I guess I can be horrified by the image of a bisected woman displayed like a museum exhibit and write a lovely low-effort OP at the same time. (  )
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Apr 26, 2014 21:40
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I just watched the first episode of M3: That Black Steel, and while I have almost no idea what just happened, I think I will watch a couple more episodes. Does anybody else have thoughts on it? Also, is anybody planning on making a thread for Black Bullet or Akuma no Riddle? I have really been enjoying them. If nobody else plans on doing so, I may make one thread for both of them.
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Apr 26, 2014 22:44
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Strong Mouse posted:Also, is anybody planning on making a thread for Black Bullet or Akuma no Riddle? I have really been enjoying them. If nobody else plans on doing so, I may make one thread for both of them. I was kinda contemplating doing one for Black Bullet but I hate writing thread OPs so feel free.
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Apr 26, 2014 22:46
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Namtab posted:I was kinda contemplating doing one for Black Bullet but I hate writing thread OPs so feel free. I've never made an OP so I have no idea how mine will come out. I probably won't be able to get started on it until later today, in case anybody wants to get to it first.
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Apr 26, 2014 22:51
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http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3628977 Mekaku thread up.
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Apr 26, 2014 23:08
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Made a thread for Indy Jones, the anime. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3629034
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Apr 27, 2014 03:27
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I just made a thread for Black Bullet
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Apr 27, 2014 05:29
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These shows have passed the three episode test for me: Kawaisou goes for a mix of comedy and some light drama similar to Love Lab. But while Love Lab has a healthy dose of slap stick humor and is generally more comedy oriented, Kawaisou is the exact oppposite. It seems like it might work out so far, but it could still turn out to be underwhelming in the end. Akuma no Riddle is not your average everyone tries to kill each other in a game anime. It's a bit different by making the MC pretty flawed, but still sympathetic, and the damsel in distress is actually more capable than expected. If these are signs that the show is trying to mix up even more things, it could turn from average to pretty good. Gochuumon wa Usagi Desu ka Standard moe fare. Gets bonus points for having low/no amounts of fanservice. Watch this if you appreciate things like moe, coffee, tea and Japanese sweets. Chaika Although it's a standard fantasy setting, it doesn't paint everything black and white. The protagonists might actually work unwittingly for an evil purpose and their adversaries seem to be the actually good guys. So the premise is intriguing and I hope the show does something with it. Love Live More Love Live. Anime Glee as has already been said in this thread. This is a show that could have had a lot of fanservice, but chose not to. Very commendable! Mushishi Excellent must watch show. Don't ask questions, go watch a beautiful show about science ghosts and human nature. Ping Pong Sports anime with a very expressive and lively style and direction. Everything else is good, but nothing new in my opinion. Another must watch show of this season. Nanana A fun adventure show. It's quite ridiculous and has considerable amounts of fanservice, but it makes up for this by being really entertaining to watch. Soul Eater Not It's kinda more Soul Eater. It even seems to have a story. The characters are alright so far and the cameos of characters from the original show are very welcome. Everyone should watch Ping Pong and Mushishi! Akuma no Riddle and Chaika are two other shows that are worth checking out if they sound interesting. Lucy Heartfilia fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Apr 27, 2014 |
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Apr 27, 2014 15:54
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:Kawaisou goes for a mix of comedy and some light drama similar to Love Lab. But while Love Lab has a healthy dose of slap stick humor and is generally more comedy oriented, Kawaisou is the exact oppposite. It seems like it might work out so far, but it could still turn out to be underwhelming in the end. I really liked Love Lab, but Kawaisou feels bland to me. I understand that the characters are all defined by their particular complexes, in the 2 1/2 episodes I watched so far they're all one-trick-ponies with no character beyond that at all.
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ViggyNash posted:I really liked Love Lab, but Kawaisou feels bland to me. I understand that the characters are all defined by their particular complexes, in the 2 1/2 episodes I watched so far they're all one-trick-ponies with no character beyond that at all. Yeah, there is only a hint of stuff that might happen. Might be good, might be bad. I'm 50:50 on the chance of either happening. That's the problem with drama as it always needs some time to build up and can be hosed up by a bad resolution anyways. What I like about both Love Live and Kawaisou is the warm characterisation of everyone. People are flawed and have problems, but they are still all likeable. Lucy Heartfilia fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Apr 27, 2014 |
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Apr 27, 2014 16:02
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http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3628559 Made a thread for M3 for those who wished it. Still very early in the show, so it's hard to tell what angle it will have. Full 24 episodes though, so whatever it intends to be, it'll be a decently long ride.
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Apr 27, 2014 16:51
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This seems as good a place as any to ask about this. Does the player on Funimation's website just never load for anyone else? As far as I can tell I've got the relevant scripts allowed and I cleared my cache like their help section suggests, and I still get a black box. Edit: This is the free videos, if that somehow matters. I don't have an account there. chumbler fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Apr 28, 2014 |
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Apr 28, 2014 03:28
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chumbler posted:This seems as good a place as any to ask about this. Does the player on Funimation's website just never load for anyone else? As far as I can tell I've got the relevant scripts allowed and I cleared my cache like their help section suggests, and I still get a black box. Happened to me too. This was in Chrome. In Firefox it worked.
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Apr 28, 2014 03:39
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XboxPants posted:Happened to me too. This was in Chrome. In Firefox it worked. Sorry, I should have mentioned that I'm using firefox, so there must be something I've overlooked if it's working for you. As a double check I went to hulu since I think that's what funi uses, and hulu's videos work fine. Edit: And now having posted that I realize that I am a goddamned moron because I can just watch it on hulu  .
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Apr 28, 2014 03:44
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chumbler posted:Sorry, I should have mentioned that I'm using firefox, so there must be something I've overlooked if it's working for you. As a double check I went to hulu since I think that's what funi uses, and hulu's videos work fine. Oh yeah I forgot to mention that, "just use Hulu in your browser of choice since that's not a broken piece of poo poo" is the correct answer. No idea why stupid Funi's player doesn't work.
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Apr 28, 2014 03:48
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Since this is the closest thing we have to a chat thread, and I really don't think this warrants its own thread: Why are we so unbelievably obsessed with pointing out sexual content in anime and getting morally outraged about it? That seems to be the main reason anyone dislikes shows around here; when people turn on a show because it's just straight up bad, it just kind of stops getting discussed, but if it has too many panty shots or gratuitous titties (even if it's otherwise kinda decent, like Kill la Kill or *monogatari), OH NO THIS IS DESTROYING MY FRAGILE MORAL FIBER, BETTER RUN TO THE INTERNET TO COMPLAIN ABOUT IT. Hell, even stuff like the VN thread (where you'd think people would be a lot more chill, given the nature of the beast) has people bending over backwards to say how much they hate sex scenes in things and how every sex scene ever is literally Hitler for existing. It's not even an SA thing as a whole. You don't see trashy cable shows like Spartacus or DaVinci's Demons being essentially (or even explicitly) banned from discussion in TVIV because they have too much sex in them. Under the Skin, a movie that is largely being marketed on the premise "Scarlett Johansson is naked in this movie," has an active thread in CineD where people are civilly discussing the movie rather than bitching about how terrible it is that it has nudity in it (and if you want to make the argument that UtS' nudity isn't as gratuitous as most anime nudity, there's a horror movie thread where someone asked for recommendations for necrophilia movies without getting chased out). Games actually went in the explicit opposite direction from this and banned any discussion of these kind of issues for a while, though I haven't really ventured in there that much lately so I'm not sure if that's still the case. Why is ADTRW the only subforum that's this terrified of sex in the stuff we consume? Is it just because we really really really don't want to be /a/ or something? I mean, that's retarded, but at least it kind of makes sense. (I probably sound more angry about this than I actually am, because my usual word choice always makes me sound pissed off. Honestly I'm just really confused. It's late, though, and I don't feel like rewriting this, so until tomorrow at least,  )e: Actually, the more I think about it, we just seem to have this weird undercurrent of self-loathing for liking anime, like we're not allowed to like stuff that other anime fans like, and if we do it's clearly because they like it for the wrong reasons whereas we are the Intellectual Master Race. Why are we so ashamed of liking what we like? 
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Apr 28, 2014 06:36
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SALT CURES HAM posted:Is it just because we really really really don't want to be /a/ or something? I mean, that's retarded, but at least it kind of makes sense. Exactly. It's a wonder that ADTRW has managed to stay open this long, considering some people's opinions on anime in general, so we try really hard to not be one of "those guys." Posters rush to see who can be most outraged at something, until enough people are heard and it turns out that we're okay with it. It's better this way than the opposite, I guess.
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Apr 28, 2014 06:42
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Because most mainstream media with sexual content involve adults of consenting age, hth EDIT: But not uncriticized! I don't really follow the series, but I believe they aged up some of the characters to make it more acceptable than the books, and, oh yeah, the actors involved are over 18. hth \/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Squidster fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Apr 28, 2014 |
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Apr 28, 2014 06:43
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Squidster posted:Because most mainstream media with sexual content involve adults of consenting age, hth And yet the Game of Thrones thread stays open. e: A major plot point in GoT, from early on in the story, is that a young girl gets kidnapped by a barbarian lord and brutally raped until she turns into a badass Chosen One. I'm not super familiar with it so I'm not 100% on this, but I'm pretty sure she's still like 14 in the show (even if the actress is over 18, which is really really beside the point). SALT CURES HAM fucked around with this message at 07:08 on Apr 28, 2014 |
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Apr 28, 2014 06:44
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Finally finished up the first ep or two of the rest of the series I was going to check out. Black Bullet - Premise is fairly generic, and there's a lot of possibility for things to go terribly here, but the first episode seemed well enough put together for me to stick with it and see how it goes. Brynhildr in the Darkness - I read the manga for a bit ages ago, I remember it being okay I guess? Kind of like Elfen Lied if nobody was a psychotic murderer/incontinent, etc. It didn't really hold me then, though. We'll see if the anime does any better. In any event, it's already spawned this, so it's a success in my book. Fuuun Ishin Dai Shogun - Hmmm, I'd watched this hoping for an entertaining trainwreck of unfinished animation, and while there's a lot of that, I feel like it isn't quite enough to fit into the "so bad it's good" category. Gonna drop it. The mecha designs that showed up at the end were actually pretty nice, though. Gochuumon wa Usagi Desu Ka? - I would have sworn this was done by all the same people who did Kiniro Mosaic, but looking at their ANN articles, I'm not seeing any of the same names on the production side. Maybe it's just because one of the characters in this looks the same and has the same voice as one in Kiniro Mosaic. Inugami-san to Nekoyama-san - It's cheap and dumb, but it's also 3 minutes. I'll watch it if I remember but if I forget I won't be broken up about it. M3 - Sono Kuroki Hagane - This show contrasts well with Black Bullet. They both have cliche premises and uninteresting characters, but Black Bullet's execution was good enough to keep me coming back. This one is the opposite. Mahouka - I normally have a guilty pleasure for the overpowered protagonist wish fulfillment fantasy LN stuff. I loved SAO, Accel World, Index, etc. I usually enjoy a good infodump of techobabble, too. That really says something considering how boring I find this show. None of the characters are particularly interesting or likable, the world somehow manages to feel both overdone and not fleshed out enough at the same time, it's so chuunibyou I don't know how anyone making it kept a straight face. I can even overlook brother/sister romance stuff if there are other reasons I like a show, but the one here manages to slide right into "kinda creepy" territory in a way few things ever have. It sells like hotcakes over there despite this, so maybe there's something good to it down the line? I think I'll put it on hold and come back if I hear good things about it later. Mekakucity Actors - Shaft showed with Nisekoi that they could get me watching something with the mother of all cliche stories by power of their Shafty direction alone. Now they've shown they can do the same thing even if I don't really know what's going on in the first place. I'd been skeptical of this from the time I heard "based on vocaloid songs", but I enjoyed ep 1 more than I thought I would. I guess I'll give it a shot. No Game No Life - I've only seen ep 1 so far, so maybe it jumps off the deep end later, but so far I like what I've seen. The premise is stupid as hell, but the direction and the characters seem interesting, and there's a lot of room for interesting mindgame-type fights to be done here. Taken at ep 1 alone, the main characters even seem to have an extremely rare close sibling relationship that doesn't involve stupid incestuous romantic or sexual tension. (The total opposite of Mahoka) I hope things stay that way, but I'll probably be disappointed. Watching it with caution. selector infected WIXOSS - I've never particularly liked card game/toy battle series, but this one seems well put together, and it's broadcasting "I'M GONNA BE LIKE MADOKA, TERRIBLE THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN" so hard that I can't help but give it a watch for now. Soul Eater Not! - I haven't watched/read Soul Eater in goddamn forever and didn't know what to expect going into this, but if this is really just a SoL show set in the Soul Eater universe I could totally get in on that, I think. God willing Excalibur makes an appearance somewhere down the line, that was the only part of that series I really loved. Knights of Sidonia - I'd put this off for weeks from being put off of it by the uncanny valley CG character design and remembering having trouble following some of the author's other manga. Was really pleasantly to find this right in the middle of my strike zone. Good hard SF background, a relatively interesting protagonist, and a talking bear. Is that just a thing with this author? I seem to remember one in Biomega, too. Atelier Escha & Logy - If I was more familiar with the game series I might have the patience to put up with this, but it's generic anime fantasy garbage, and I think I'll watch Chaika for that instead.
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I also dislike the fanservice in Game of Thrones. I won't stop watching a show because of fanservice though. And fanservice is an important point of discussion, because there are so many anime shows that rely solely on fanservice and nothing else. That's why shows without it are 1) special and 2) commendable, because they don't rely on a cheap crutch.
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:I also dislike the fanservice in Game of Thrones. I won't stop watching a show because of fanservice though. Your mindset isn't really the one I'm talking about. I'm talking about stuff like the Kill la Kill thread being total garbage for a good while because the show had the nerve to have underboob in it.
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Apr 28, 2014 07:09
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Because some people aren't turned on by cartoons and just want to watch things that aren't trying to be softcore porn at random? Because a lot of this poo poo is about kids and it's pretty creepy when something is going on and on about "hot fourteen year olds"? The fact that dumb fanservice is typically an excuse for a director to pander to an audience to try to move merchandise while ultimately adding nothing of value (or removing value from) an audience that isn't being titillated, making the work overall worse for them? That it's a cheap crutch and is usually a massive screaming siren about the kind/quality of narrative? SALT CURES HAM posted:Actually, the more I think about it, we just seem to have this weird undercurrent of self-loathing for liking anime, like we're not allowed to like stuff that other anime fans like, and if we do it's clearly because they like it for the wrong reasons whereas we are the Intellectual Master Race. Why are we so ashamed of liking what we like? 95% of all consumable media is poo poo and all criticism of media is built around arguing what falls into the 5% that isn't. What you equate with self loathing is more a deliberate separation from self-identification with consumable media. Turns out: you can consume media without self identifying on the basis of it! You don't have to build your entire self image or self definition around the fact that you enjoy one kind of media. People in ADTRW mock that kind of thing just as people in Games / the internet as whole mock the sheer amount of people who obsessively identify themselves entirely on the basis of being Gamers or being a Brony or any number of absurd things to build your self-identity around. SALT CURES HAM posted:And yet the Game of Thrones thread stays open. Yes, and it's not likely purely "oh no this thing has characters and sex in" causes any particular distress in ADTRW either  People rave about Revolutionary Girl Utena, which features sex between an adult and a teen, incest, and a lot of hosed up poo poo. Why does not one make a big deal about that when people were very critical of similar stuff in Kill la Kill? Oh because of how it was executed and how it's not treated as something to jerk off to and is just character writing. People also don't typically make a big deal about sex involving adults in ADTRW either except for the whole "oh this work is basically just softcore porn eh" thing given that quite a few people aren't trying to watch anime for that! SALT CURES HAM posted:Your mindset isn't really the one I'm talking about. I'm talking about stuff like the Kill la Kill thread being total garbage for a good while because the show had the nerve to have underboob in it. Kill la Kill is kind of a perfect example of a flawed work using fanservice poo poo as a crutch, and holy gently caress why are you so bothered about poo poo that happened in a thread months ago when that thread isn't even open any more? Don't you have anything better to do? Read a goddamn book. Zorak fucked around with this message at 07:17 on Apr 28, 2014 |
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SALT CURES HAM posted:And yet the Game of Thrones thread stays open. Also, everything Zorak said, but additionally I feel that anime is generally a really immature and lovely medium when it comes to its handling of mature content. When it comes to sex, gay folks and minorities, anime is almost universally pretty awful. It's still okay to enjoy something that's problematic as gently caress, but putting on blinders and insisting everyone else is just a frigid SJW isn't really a great solution either. On topic, I've dropped The World is Still Beautiful, as the setting feels too contrived and the male lead too annoying. Nike is still a fun protagonist, but she deserves a better series. Coffin Princess is surprisingly good, and I appreciate that it hasn't stopped once to infodump about the world. The post-war world, infested with insane magical wildlife is intriguing, and the protagonist and villains are all surprisingly likable. My only worry is that Chaika is a bit tropey, but hopefully she'll get over her speech impediment and become less mcguffin and more person. Captain Earth is too confusing for me. I'll wait until it's finished and see what the thread felt about the finished product.
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