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Franz von Dada posted:Any recommendations? Books are scary, read a graphic novel instead!
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Franz von Dada posted:Any recommendations? Journey to the West. It's like a 90s anime except with words.
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Apr 28, 2014 19:20
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Don't read books, go watch some books instead.
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Apr 28, 2014 19:21
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No Spice and Wolf, no sale.  On a less sarcastic note, I mostly have genre fiction as my backlog anyways (been reading Perdido Street Station off and on). I probably should look into modern fiction that isn't genre fiction one of these days. That or something nonfictional which I haven't done in ages.
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Apr 28, 2014 19:26
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XboxPants posted:Does Mushishi ever get any kind of arc or ongoing elements going? I watched a few episodes of the first season way back when, and it was really cool but without any ongoing story it didn't hook me that hard and I forget about it eventually. I think you're kind of weird for not just enjoying each episode for their own thing, but yes, there are some actually really cool bits of continuity. This includes a recurring character that acts as a really good foil for Ginko, episodes that involve a greater society of mushi masters, and character pasts. It's also cool how you grow to expect mushi or Ginko to act in a certain way and the show plays with your expectations.
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Apr 28, 2014 19:30
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Allarion posted:No Spice and Wolf, no sale.
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Apr 28, 2014 19:31
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The Devil Tesla posted:I think you're kind of weird for not just enjoying each episode for their own thing, but yes, there are some actually really cool bits of continuity. This includes a recurring character that acts as a really good foil for Ginko, episodes that involve a greater society of mushi masters, and character pasts. It's also cool how you grow to expect mushi or Ginko to act in a certain way and the show plays with your expectations. Yeah, there are tons of connections between episodes. But as far as I know there is no big story arc.
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Apr 28, 2014 19:40
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Stink Billyums posted:Around 2005 a bunch of ADTRW regulars were permabanned for lolicon. After that whenever anything remotely sexual popped up in animes it seemed like people would race to be the first to declare how creepy it is so as not to be lumped in with those types by the rest of the forum. It stuck. I'm assuming this was moot and the people who went on to create 4chan, right?
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Apr 28, 2014 19:41
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Zorak posted:Its the anime season thread, not the WickedIcon reminds us why he's been probated and banned four dozen times for being a colossal weirdo thread, that's why. I kind of expected the "this isn't the place or time" response. I am curious what the correct place and time is, though. The sexism in anime thread? Oh wait, you gassed it immediately. Individual show threads? Not unless you want a probation for "derailing" by talking about stuff that happened in the show you're supposed to be discussing. The season thread which has approximately 5,000 derails per page? Nope, this one specific derail out of the millions is not allowed. 4chan? So people want to argue with each other. Who cares? What's it hurt? As long as it's off in its own little place where people can ignore it if it offends their sensibilities so much to be called a weird dumb pedo for liking a weird dumb pedo show about a blank everyman who systematically rapes his way through his family tree, what's the problem? Zorak posted:Or you could do something more valuable with your time. Like read a book. I couldn't help but notice you posted this in response to yourself. Are you trying to tell yourself something  Waffleman_ posted:Journey to the West. It's like a 90s anime except with words. This is the original anime from which all other anime spawn. The best part is, if someone asks you what you're reading you can say "Oh, just one of the great classics of Chinese literature  "Seriously, though, at one point the (all male) heroes accidentally drink from an enchanted spring that magically causes pregnancy and have to desperately search for the mythical well of abortions before it's too late.
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The Devil Tesla posted:I think you're kind of weird for not just enjoying each episode for their own thing, but yes, there are some actually really cool bits of continuity. This includes a recurring character that acts as a really good foil for Ginko, episodes that involve a greater society of mushi masters, and character pasts. It's also cool how you grow to expect mushi or Ginko to act in a certain way and the show plays with your expectations. I am weird, but that's just me. When the story wraps up so completely & perfectly in each episode it just leaves me not caring as much about what happens next. Thanks a lot for the response, though, the worldbuilding stuff sounds very cool.
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Apr 28, 2014 19:42
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Franz von Dada posted:Any recommendations? I got around to reading Little Star over the weekend because of Zorak's "read a book" posts. It was really fun, I haven't read an emotional roller coaster that good in ages. I also enjoyed the fact that I knew nothing about the book going in (I'm a fan of the author's other works so I didn't bother looking up info beforehand) and it turned out to be a really good story about love between young girls and singing when I was getting mad at this season for it's mediocre idol and yuri anime.
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Apr 28, 2014 19:43
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Nate RFB posted:You can (and should) buy Spice & Wolf! Yen Press has been doing a decent job, as far as I can tell. I think a new volume just came out a week or so ago. I think all told you could make about 3 more anime seasons out of the books they've translated so far. Yeah I picked that up around the time the simulwatch ended since I wanted to know what happened next. On the note of light novel chat, I also just read Legendary Moonlight Sculptor recently, which was pretty entertaining if you're into The Gamer and Sword Art Online. Has a bit of a rough translation, but it's pretty cool MMO fiction about a dude just trying to be a gold farmer and profiting to finance his sister's college education. Made me start craving playing an MMO anyways.
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Apr 28, 2014 19:46
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icantfindaname posted:I'm assuming this was moot and the people who went on to create 4chan, right?
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Apr 28, 2014 19:53
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Nate RFB posted:Some of them (the May 2005 entry) posted on and/or were involved with 4chan, but moot himself at least was never banned. A couple of the posters in question have their own SAclopedia entries with further backstory, if you care to know. I barely remember any of it if I'm honest. Seeing the most recent entry, I wasn't aware that the acronym of ADTRW had changed. I thought we just used it as a name unto itself.
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Apr 28, 2014 19:55
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Waffleman_ posted:Seeing the most recent entry, I wasn't aware that the acronym of ADTRW had changed. I thought we just used it as a name unto itself. I'm not sure how official that change is. Although it is a completely superior acronym. \/\/huh, neat Namtab fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Apr 28, 2014 |
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Apr 28, 2014 20:09
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Namtab posted:I'm not sure how official that change is. Although it is a completely superior acronym. If you hover over the ADTRW in the main forum page, you'll see the text has changed from "Anime Death Tentacle Rape Whorehouse". So pretty official, I'd say.
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Apr 28, 2014 20:11
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S-Alpha posted:If you hover over the ADTRW in the main forum page, you'll see the text has changed from "Anime Death Tentacle Rape Whorehouse". So pretty official, I'd say. As I understand it, it was posted in the QCS Suggestion Box and everyone thought it was a good idea, so some mod changed the hover text. I don't know if it's Zorak approved, but considering all references to Anime Death Tentacle Rape Whorehouse has been removed from the ADTRWiki, I wouldn't be surprised if it was. And on that note, apparently Devil Is A Part Timer was ADTRW's pick of last year. 
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Apr 28, 2014 20:21
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It was a good anime?
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Apr 28, 2014 20:23
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Hataraku Maou-sama was pretty much the surprise hit of last year. No surprise people liked it.
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Apr 28, 2014 20:27
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It wasn't my favourite, but it was quite good.
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Apr 28, 2014 20:28
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Dude that show was rad, don't be making GBS threads on it
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Apr 28, 2014 20:28
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Delusibeta posted:but considering all references to Anime Death Tentacle Rape Whorehouse has been removed from the ADTRWiki, I wouldn't be surprised if it was.  2013 was kind of a ho-hum year but The Devil Is a Part-Timer was a legitimately good show.
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Apr 28, 2014 20:28
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:It wasn't my favourite, but it was quite good. Yeah, I thought it was good too, but not best of the year. I'm genuinely surprised it beat JoJo.
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Apr 28, 2014 20:29
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Yeah, I thought it would be typical LN harem trash, but it kinda blew me away with how good it was. I hope we get a second season or something, because it deserves it more than most stuff.
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Apr 28, 2014 20:29
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Delusibeta posted:Yeah, I thought it was good too, but not best of the year. I'm genuinely surprised it beat JoJo. Those rankings aren't really good for determining "ADTRW thought it was best" because they're not weighted at all. It's "this many people ranked it in their top five shows of the year". It's good as a measure of popularity but not for relative opinions on quality.
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Apr 28, 2014 20:34
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I think everybody liked it, even if most people had another show they enjoyed more
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Apr 28, 2014 20:34
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Yeah basically. I know kyousougiga was my favorite show last year, but me and everyone else tended to throw hataraku into their list since it was such a good surprise hit so it ended up being listed the most.
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Apr 28, 2014 20:39
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^^ Kyousogiga is fantastic for so many reasons.Allarion posted:It was a good anime? It's a great show, but more importantly it was such a huge surprise that everyone started bandwagoning on it till it became anime of the year in most posters' minds. Was it the anime of the year? Hell no. There were plenty of better shows, including most of the rest of the top 10 list.
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Apr 28, 2014 20:56
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S-Alpha posted:Yeah, I thought it would be typical LN harem trash, but it kinda blew me away with how good it was. I hope we get a second season or something, because it deserves it more than most stuff. Hataraku started strong, but you could tell it was stretching itself thin over thirteen episodes. The second half wasn't as good as the first, and I have no doubt that a sequel would be even worse. Let it stand alone as a good series.
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Apr 28, 2014 20:57
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The first two episodes were fun, before the harem elements and the generic fantasy backstory and the incredibly dumb drama. Stuff like "you killed my father I'm so tsundere" would have been hilarious if it wasn't played so earnestly.
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Apr 28, 2014 21:35
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We should try to incorporate some weighting. It might be enough to mark one of the 5 selected animes as best anime of the year. Then those animes marked as best get counted in a separate additional category.
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Apr 28, 2014 21:51
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The way it's done is less about being the "best" than it is about being the "most popular", which is kinda more appropriate for entertainment imo. If nothing else I'll probably do a weighted "worst five" at the end of the year.
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Apr 28, 2014 22:11
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Yeah, even if it's not at #1 on anybody's list, the fact that a bunch of people put it in their top 5's means that it's popular regardless of personal tastes.
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So I'm the guy who curates those lists, and I just kind of made them on a whim two years ago and it was a personal call to weight shows evenly and to cut off the list at top 10. I chose to weight shows evenly because the recurring rules of the voting threads specify that ranking is optional--and that by introducing weighting, you make strategic voting more appealing. That is, making the ranks and shows you vote for not truly reminiscent of your preferences so that the overall result more closely mirrors your preferences. With an even weighting, the only strategic voting potential is in picking a show or not. And if I came into the thread to say "Hey just fyi if you rank shows I'm gonna weight them by [insert weighting formula here]" then that kind of undermines the whole thread rules. I picked 10 as a cutoff because it was pretty consistently the point where there was a huge cluster of shows of middling popularity. Anyway, darkgray is the one who runs those threads, I'll make a list out of whatever system he wants to use.
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Apr 28, 2014 22:30
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Bakanogami posted:Gochuumon wa Usagi Desu Ka? - I would have sworn this was done by all the same people who did Kiniro Mosaic, but looking at their ANN articles, I'm not seeing any of the same names on the production side. Maybe it's just because one of the characters in this looks the same and has the same voice as one in Kiniro Mosaic. The manga is from the same magazine* as Kiniro Mosaic, so there's a connection there, it's just not on the animation production side. If you watched the latest season of Hidamari Sketch, the fansubbers left in ads for the website of the group of magazines they all run in, which mentioned them both (along with Yuyushiki and Hidamari). *or at least, the same group of closely-related spinoffs from Manga Time Kirara; I stopped trying to remember which series ran in which particular magazine a long time ago.
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Relambrien posted:I chose to weight shows evenly because the recurring rules of the voting threads specify that ranking is optional--and that by introducing weighting, you make strategic voting more appealing. That is, making the ranks and shows you vote for not truly reminiscent of your preferences so that the overall result more closely mirrors your preferences. Why would anyone use strategic voting when it comes to listing their five favourite anims? It just seems like a grossly nerdy thing to do. I'm not insulting your justification because I have absolutely no doubts that people do do it, I just don't see the appeal.
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Apr 28, 2014 22:43
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Namtab posted:Why would anyone use strategic voting when it comes to listing their five favourite anims? It just seems like a grossly nerdy thing to do. It's not like that many people are really every single individual list that people are post, so really the main reason you post a list at all is in order to influence the overall "Top List". So if that's your motivation going into it, I can see why you'd do strategic voting. Maybe there's a show that's only the #4 show for you, after Jojo, Mushishi, and Ping-Pong, but you know that those three shows are definitely going to make the cut anyway. You might think "why even bother voting for those three shows?" So you decide to put your #4 show at #1 to try to get it into the list and expose it to more people. edit: Or maybe I'm mis-remembering these threads and they do, in fact, have a lot of discussion and people reading each-other's lists. In which case 
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I definitely read the lists in those threads and read the reasons why people voted for what they did. Especially because I only watch a small fraction of the shows released in any given year, so it's good to look at what I missed throughout the year and try out shows that seem appealing.
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Namtab posted:Why would anyone use strategic voting when it comes to listing their five favourite anims? It just seems like a grossly nerdy thing to do. Even if someone does do it, it should be pretty obvious. Just discard any obviously biased lists. In the worst case where there's one or two that aren't immediately obvious, those 1 or 2 skewed votes aren't going to affect the final result with dozens of other voters putting up their opinions. So I'm saying I wouldn't mind a weighted list.
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arhra posted:The manga is from the same magazine* as Kiniro Mosaic, so there's a connection there, it's just not on the animation production side. If you watched the latest season of Hidamari Sketch, the fansubbers left in ads for the website of the group of magazines they all run in, which mentioned them both (along with Yuyushiki and Hidamari). I didn't realize that there was an entire serial devote to characters relaxing and going about their daily lives.
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