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Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Deviant posted:

Don't HS and CP have sectorial lists in them? Are they going to override those in the new BRB?
HS/CP list have already been replaced by corrected PDFs anyway. Paper books are the last place you want to look for army lists in.

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Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

I WON THIS AMAZING AVATAR! I'M A WINNER! WOOOOO!

stabbington posted:

3rd ed interview info

I love that this is happening at the same time 40K players are losing their poo poo about the still unconfirmed rumor of 7th edition.

bhsman
Feb 10, 2008

by exmarx

Indolent Bastard posted:

I love that this is happening at the same time 40K players are losing their poo poo about the still unconfirmed rumor of 7th edition.

Jeez, really? Oh well, I can't even think to worry about that when Ariadna has so many new models in the pipeline. :allears:

MCPeePants
Feb 25, 2013
If they put out a new Kazak box of similar quality to those Morats then I am DEFINITELY starting this game, even if I have to buy armies for my opponents. Any pictures yet?

bhsman
Feb 10, 2008

by exmarx

MCPeePants posted:

If they put out a new Kazak box of similar quality to those Morats then I am DEFINITELY starting this game, even if I have to buy armies for my opponents. Any pictures yet?

No idea on Kazaks, but a few posts up someone posted stills from a presentation where they were showing off new model artwork, including Ariadnan Spetznas Paratroopers. :ussr:

EDIT: Well nevermind apparently they've been removed from Imgur :v:

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

MCPeePants posted:

If they put out a new Kazak box of similar quality to those Morats then I am DEFINITELY starting this game, even if I have to buy armies for my opponents.
You'll get multiple factions anyway, so what's the problem? :v:

HiveCommander
Jun 19, 2012

Aix Athanatos posted:

I'd definitely run the missile Magister as the link leader for that sweet, sweet B2 Missile Launcher. You should also look up the rules regarding Dodge in a link team and abuse the heck out of their dodge bonus to run them across the field like deranged acrobats.

Something else to consider is possibly turning one or two of those Order Sergeants into specialist troops; when you start playing in tournaments with scenarios, having a handful of specialist troops is absolutely crucial for scoring the objective points you need to win rounds.

Thanks, the burst ML sounds stupidly good so there's no point not trying it out. As for specialists, what would I be needing to buy later on? Fusiliers seem to be the only real option for specialists and I'm not a fan of their looks.

Corbeau
Sep 13, 2010

Jack of All Trades
I am pleased by everything in that summary.

ijyt
Apr 10, 2012

So I got my Aleph stuff today and oh god all these tiny pieces and tiny ball joints and oh god help.

S.W.O.R.D. Agent
Apr 30, 2012

stabbington posted:

Summary Text Was Here

Thanks for the summary.

ijyt posted:

So I got my Aleph stuff today and oh god all these tiny pieces and tiny ball joints and oh god help.

Heh, good luck. It's not so bad once you get used to putting them together.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

ijyt posted:

So I got my Aleph stuff today and oh god all these tiny pieces and tiny ball joints and oh god help.

Tiny ball joints are awesome once you learn that they fit together sooo well (especially the kind with two "pips" inside). Just score them a bit.

Unless you're making Dakinis.

ijyt
Apr 10, 2012

Pierzak posted:

Tiny ball joints are awesome once you learn that they fit together sooo well (especially the kind with two "pips" inside). Just score them a bit.

Unless you're making Dakinis.

Dakinis, Rebots, yeah.

tokenbrownguy
Apr 1, 2010

So, I was thinking of getting into this game. I'm looking at ALEPH, 'cause I like the Apple Inc-muderbot style. And I love me some ridiculous historical characterization.

My biggest concern is painting. I've got no patience and a shaky hand. Am I right to assume that ALEPH is relatively safe due to the whole future-plastic/ceramics look? I'm hoping to get away with just an undercoat+primer and a little two tone dry-brushing.

Aix Athanatos
Nov 3, 2011

HiveCommander posted:

Thanks, the burst ML sounds stupidly good so there's no point not trying it out. As for specialists, what would I be needing to buy later on? Fusiliers seem to be the only real option for specialists and I'm not a fan of their looks.

There's two Spec Sgts that count as specialists (Forward Observer, Hacker), Gabriele de Fersen is a (very expensive) option, the Trauma-Docs and Machinists also count as specialists, the Knight Hospitalier doctor gives you a HI specialist which is nice. I recommend the Indigo Specops model, as I believe it can be used to proxy any Order Sergeant or Fusilier.

Deviant
Sep 26, 2003

i've forgotten all of your names.


Pierzak posted:

Tiny ball joints are awesome once you learn that they fit together sooo well (especially the kind with two "pips" inside). Just score them a bit.

Unless you're making Dakinis.

How is the Marut? I really want one.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Verr posted:

My biggest concern is painting. I've got no patience and a shaky hand. Am I right to assume that ALEPH is relatively safe due to the whole future-plastic/ceramics look? I'm hoping to get away with just an undercoat+primer and a little two tone dry-brushing.
Drybrushing tends to look terrible on Infinity minis, especially high-tech ones. I'd advise a good wash (ink + water + flow improver, looks better than premade GW stuff) and going the "Army Painter method" (spray whole mini lighter color, paint contrasting areas complementary darker color, paint details metal, wash everything, dry with hair dryer, attach base painted separately). (or just gently caress it and slather them in AP's Quickshade stain, but you'll need to pick the excess with a brush as pooling looks ugleh)

I didn't want to link it because it's a lovely rushed paintjob/color scheme test model, but:



Workflow: spray everything olive green, paint base black and drybrush grey so I don't have to touch up feet later, paint contrasting spots medium-grey, paint details metal, paint glaive blade bone, wash everything in a dark brown+green ink made as above, pick edges with their respective basic colors+glaze medium to soften the strokes (if you don't do this it'll look like the glaive blade that didn't get highlights, your choice), do the same to skin (light blue-blue wash-light blue), paint glaive haft dark grey, done. Eyes: thinned down red in one stroke around eyes, off-white the eyeballs, done. Sounds complicated but everything took me under an hour from primer to done, including washes drying etc. You'll have to adapt your method to Aleph models, but it's not hard to make the tiny detailed things look good on the tabletop.

Also, doing a TAG the same way today because it's primed and while I wait for the strip/clean/repaint queue to reach it I may actually give it a halfway-decent paintjob until I finish the rest.


Deviant posted:

How is the Marut? I really want one.
Should be no different than other TAGs. The Tacbots are the biggest offenders because they have like 10+ bits per line infantry mini.



VVV: That was actually a test of two things: pale bluish skin for Striga troops (I'll keep it on Sheskiin because it makes her look unique, but Aswangs/Cadmuses will get white with purple shading), and whether olive green works as Gwailo armor (it does, they'll get a similar scheme with Rotting Flesh skin). And yeah, the grey looks too indistinct but gently caress it, she's gonna be cut up and converted one day anyway.

Pierzak fucked around with this message at 21:43 on May 1, 2014

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Post more of your stuff Pierzak, the face on that is really, really nice. Give the rest some more contrast with some more highlighting and it'll look great.

Flipswitch fucked around with this message at 21:54 on May 1, 2014

tokenbrownguy
Apr 1, 2010

Thanks for the tips! I'll follow that plan. No promises that my dudes won't come out looking like the melted guy from Robocop.

Corbeau
Sep 13, 2010

Jack of All Trades
Washes are definitely an Infinity mini's best friend. There's so much detail that pops out almost like magic.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Verr posted:

No promises that my dudes won't come out looking like the melted guy from Robocop.
If you fail miserably, you can always throw the mini into nitro/acetone and have it stripped clean overnight. Metal recycling :haw:

Bear Throne
Apr 9, 2014

Deviant posted:

How is the Marut? I really want one.

The Marut is pretty awesome, but expensive. Strategos 3 makes it one of the best lieutenants in the game, though obvious. 6-4 mov msv2 hmg is a godsend when you need to deal with a moira link set to tear through your opposite flank. The main thing to remember is that it's a huge fire magnet that goes down to concentrated fire in the reactive turn, so hide it well. Adding a myrmidon that can draw the same fire lanes in the reactive turn and throw smoke on top of the marut is a great way to help keep it up.

@Pierzak: Post more dudes.

Serotonin
Jul 14, 2001

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of *blank*
Pierzek is spot on. As a painter of 25 years experience who's just as happy painting 6mm scale minis as heroic scale 32mm the Infinity minis intimidated the gently caress out of me. I had a go a couple of years back at painting a Haqq Jannisery, made a pigs ear out of it and my army then sat in a box with the rest of my lead pile. An escalation league in my gaming group has rekindled my interest in Infinity ( tbh only had a couple of games previously) and I thought 'meh gently caress it' and decided to just do the bare minimum and slap some paint on. I abandoned my usual style, airbrushed the entire force a khaki colour, washed heavily with Agrax then started just quickly detailing the minis. It was a revelation, detail popped and the models came together super quick. I managed to paint the first 2 models in less than 4 hours and I've almost done with another 2.
I might edit in a couple of pics and WIPs.

EDIT



They look better in real life honest :(

Serotonin fucked around with this message at 07:38 on May 2, 2014

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang
They look really nice. I'll probably do it how you have, except using Russian tank green undercoat for the bulk colour.

Deviant
Sep 26, 2003

i've forgotten all of your names.


Bear Throne posted:

The Marut is pretty awesome, but expensive. Strategos 3 makes it one of the best lieutenants in the game, though obvious. 6-4 mov msv2 hmg is a godsend when you need to deal with a moira link set to tear through your opposite flank. The main thing to remember is that it's a huge fire magnet that goes down to concentrated fire in the reactive turn, so hide it well. Adding a myrmidon that can draw the same fire lanes in the reactive turn and throw smoke on top of the marut is a great way to help keep it up.

@Pierzak: Post more dudes.

I know the minute I buy one that OB_Juan is going to buy the tachikoma, though.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Deviant posted:

How is the Marut? I really want one.

It's tricky to put together but it looks neat. Getting all 4 arms to fit and hold the gun had me cursing in languages that have been dead for ages.

Game-wise, it's really nice. It costs a lot, but it will pulp and ODD and revealed camo in sight. Just alays keep it in cover, and bring a cheap smoke myrmidon to give it a smoke cover when fighting other TAGs and stuff with missile launchers and such.

The LT. option has the heavy grenade launcher, which is really fun. The Marut's BS is so high that even speculative shots have a good chance of hitting, so find a member of a link team that is not in the shadow of a building and lob some death in their direction. The Marut is a very obvious Lt, but it's not as if it doesn't have a big target on its forehead even when it's not, so feel free to run i that way and benefit from the Strategos.

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

What a fascinatingly unusual cock. Now, allow me to show you my collection...

Deviant posted:

How is the Marut? I really want one.

I had no problem with my Marut, except the knees aren't really intuitive without looking first.

Game wise, best model for using Integrated Ammo.

Sit in smoke, fire EXP+AP out, single round - If you hit the target, they're likely dead. If you miss, they can't respond and have no risk of them dodging out of LOS if they survive.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

WAR FOOT posted:

I had no problem with my Marut, except the knees aren't really intuitive without looking first.

Game wise, best model for using Integrated Ammo.

Sit in smoke, fire EXP+AP out, single round - If you hit the target, they're likely dead. If you miss, they can't respond and have no risk of them dodging out of LOS if they survive.

They can respond, but only after your shot, and the smoke and cover will likely severely hamper their ARO shot.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Sephyr posted:

They can respond, but only after your shot, and the smoke and cover will likely severely hamper their ARO shot.
I was about to say this, then thought it was only when the attack hits, then read the wiki and you're right, it doesn't say anywhere that the attack has to hit, it's just that the ARO is a second strike and at -6 to hit.

Bear Throne
Apr 9, 2014

Deviant posted:

I know the minute I buy one that OB_Juan is going to buy the tachikoma, though.

Get Penthesilea with it. Ask him how he like monofilament blades. :getin:

I prefer the msv2/smoke trick with hft and nanopulser. Pretty much removes the disadvantage of using those weapons.

Bob Smith
Jan 5, 2006
Well Then, What Shall We Start With?

Bear Throne posted:

Get Penthesilea with it. Ask him how he like monofilament blades. :getin:

I prefer the msv2/smoke trick with hft and nanopulser. Pretty much removes the disadvantage of using those weapons.

The one time I tried using Penthesilea as a melee model she charged a Nomad drone (Tsyklon I think) which fluffed all its AROs, and then she got critted twice in a row by it in melee.

That was also the last time I used her that way.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Bob Smith posted:

The one time I tried using Penthesilea as a melee model she charged a Nomad drone (Tsyklon I think) which fluffed all its AROs, and then she got critted twice in a row by it in melee.

That was also the last time I used her that way.
In my last battle my opponent had his Fiday get beat in CC. By a civvie. With a handbag. Twice. Apparently it's a regular occurrence, as he complained about it before the game. No one can say he wasn't asking for it :v:

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

What a fascinatingly unusual cock. Now, allow me to show you my collection...

Pierzak posted:

I was about to say this, then thought it was only when the attack hits, then read the wiki and you're right, it doesn't say anywhere that the attack has to hit, it's just that the ARO is a second strike and at -6 to hit.

Sephyr posted:

They can respond, but only after your shot, and the smoke and cover will likely severely hamper their ARO shot.

Ugh, we've been playing it as if you were being shot in the rear arc and missed. All those free shots them goddamn Djanbazans have taken... :negative:

e: Unless you're an Oniwaben, I probably wouldn't CC...

DOUBLE EDIT: Wait no, I found it.

Visibility Conditions states that in order to ARO though such conditions, you need to succeed at an ARM Roll or corresponding reaction.

Clawtopsy fucked around with this message at 01:08 on May 3, 2014

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

WAR FOOT posted:

Visibility Conditions states that in order to ARO though such conditions, you need to succeed at an ARM Roll or corresponding reaction.
Let's see the full sentence:

His adversary, if he survives the attack (Succeeding at an ARM roll or corresponding reaction) and all enemy figures with LoF to the attacker can perform their ARO despite the Zone, because the attacker has revealed for a moment his location.


I see nothing stating that the attack has to hit.

VVV: I explained it to myself the same way.

Pierzak fucked around with this message at 14:26 on May 3, 2014

Sneaky Homunculus
May 19, 2008

Pierzak posted:

Let's see the full sentence:

His adversary, if he survives the attack (Succeeding at an ARM roll or corresponding reaction) and all enemy figures with LoF to the attacker can perform their ARO despite the Zone, because the attacker has revealed for a moment his location.


I see nothing stating that the attack has to hit.

The rule makes sense when you think of it as the AROs are reacting to active shooter's muzzle flashes from within the smoke. Thus, why there is still a -6 penalty to hit since the shooter is still obscured.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
For Verr who wanted to drybrush his Infinity minis, apparently it can be done quite simply with a decent result:

http://infinitythegame.com/forum/index.php?/topic/22190-chris-cryx-does-neoterran-capitaline-army/

Tentacle Party
Jul 2, 2003

(breathing intensifies)

Pierzak posted:

For Verr who wanted to drybrush his Infinity minis, apparently it can be done quite simply with a decent result:

http://infinitythegame.com/forum/index.php?/topic/22190-chris-cryx-does-neoterran-capitaline-army/



It's a really good method too. It makes armour plates look like some plas-steel composite. Perfect for tabletop.

Hellbeard
Apr 8, 2002


Please report me if you see me post in GBS so a moderator may bulldoze my account like a palestinian school.
Just paint the minis as well as you can. Don't worry about it too much, they are for playing games with. I think a simple scheme is better than lots of colorful colors and gems and whatever. Ultimately, the close-up macro photographs don't represent the way the miniatures seem to the naked eye. You can always go back and re-do them if you later find you want to.

Also, I just finished this Penthesilea:





S.W.O.R.D. Agent
Apr 30, 2012

That water effect is pretty gnarly. Nicely done.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
I am being so tempted by the upcoming Invincible army sectorial. I love heavy infantry and YJ fluff. The only thing that kept me from making ISS was that they couldn't bring enough cool heavy power armor to the list.

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Hellbeard
Apr 8, 2002


Please report me if you see me post in GBS so a moderator may bulldoze my account like a palestinian school.

S.W.O.R.D. Agent posted:

That water effect is pretty gnarly. Nicely done.

Thank you. It kind of obscured a lot of the other stuff I made beneath it but I suppose it came out gnarly despite.

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