Nolaterif posted:I guess you're right. Naomi has a kid and a kitchen and us as a man. What more could she possibly need?
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JT Jag posted:I bet the people who want to raise the Roc are the same people who were against raising a family because it would be micromanaging. You can't ride a loving baby into battle against a demon army. I guess I don't understand why we even rushed back with the egg....to take it to another city to sacrifice? That is seriously what everyone wants to do? I normally understand people being pro El, but this one just boggles me. Most people wanted to raise the Roc, but then we got advice from Ish who is team hyper safety and we changed our mind...but what is the harm in just giving it a chance? If it's as dangerous as Ish thinks then I have no doubt there will be enough votes to squash the Roc Tsyni fucked around with this message at 05:35 on May 6, 2014 |
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1C. DANAL LIVES. 2A. WE ARE RAISING THIS ROC BABY. It will be an asset to the city and it will bring fame to the entire region. And hey, if things go south we'll take care of it ourselves. 4B. Happy wife, happy life.
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JT Jag posted:I bet the people who want to raise the Roc are the same people who were against raising a family because it would be micromanaging. Tsyni posted:You can't ride a loving baby into battle against a demon army. Nolaterif posted:I guess you're right. Naomi has a kid and a kitchen and us as a man. What more could she possibly need? Diogines posted:A giant man eating bird? drat it, everyone's beating me to it.
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Tsyni posted:I guess I don't understand why we even rushed back with the egg....to take it to another city to sacrifice? That is seriously what everyone wants to do? I normally understand people being pro El, but this one just boggles me.
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Tsyni posted:I guess I don't understand why we even rushed back with the egg....to take it to another city to sacrifice? That is seriously what everyone wants to do? I normally understand people being pro El, but this one just boggles me. I don't get it either, it was even pointed out when we chose to take the egg back, that raising a Roc would be a dangerous thing that everyone would think we were crazy for. Tudiya and Ishamal's reactions were essentially exactly what Diog said they would be. Everybody voted to take the thing then, but then we get back, get told exactly what we we already knew, and suddenly it's too hot to handle. Ah well, maybe everyone voting to bring it back really just wanted to sacrifice it all along.  Edit: Actually, looking back, Diog said it would be 'tough to know how Ishamal would react', but that he'd like defer to Tudiya. Who would think it would be mad. Theglavwen fucked around with this message at 05:40 on May 6, 2014 |
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Theglavwen posted:I don't get it either, it was even pointed out when we chose to take the egg back, that raising a Roc would be a dangerous thing that everyone would think we were crazy for. Tudiya and Ishamal's reactions were essentially exactly what Diog said they would be. Everybody voted to take the thing then, but then we get back, get told exactly what we we already knew, and suddenly it's too hot to handle. I at least almost literally don't have a chance to vote on weekends. I might be able to make like, one post, but gently caress if I can actually do anything other than that. So I'm just being consistent--right after we found it, I said taking it to Baitel might be alright, and then I left the thread until today due to my work schedule. I don't really care what Ishamal said. Selling/sacrificing it in Baitel or giving it to Indor are my other two favorite options. Raising it just seems like a waste of time, particularly since a roc isn't particularly powerful anyway. We killed one without going all Mighty Mode, it just seems like a bigger bird. Like, ride it into battle against demons? It'll be killed super fast. Assuming we can even get that far. And if we really want air support, a quicker, less expensive, and less dangerous way is to just get a falcon from birth and try to Snarls that. Boom, eyes from the air.
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We could invent gliders and teach Snarls how to fly/tie him to one.
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SerSpook posted:And if we really want air support, a quicker, less expensive, and less dangerous way is to just get a falcon from birth and try to Snarls that. Boom, eyes from the air. But what if we Snarls'd a Roc!?
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My mind changed when Tudiya said we'll be executed when it kills someone. If we let it grow, that's not even a question. This bird is definitely going to kill someone it wasn't supposed to. I don't mind letting people know we're crazy, but I do mind being dead.
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Tsyni posted:You can't ride a loving baby into battle against a demon army. Because I assume most people didn't want to bring it back, but now that we have and that it's become apparent it's an insane idea it's the best idea in their minds.
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World's largest omelet.
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GloriousDemon posted:But what if we Snarls'd a Roc!? We have a bigger bird that will still probably be killed by the actually powerful things in the world?
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JT Jag posted:I wanted to see Ishamal's reaction. If he thought there was any remote chance to tame it, I would be alright with trying, but he doesn't. If it were up to Ishamal, we would take a solemn vow to sit at home with our hands on the table where he could see them at all times for the next 300 years.
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A literal Archangel thought Ishamal had the wrong mindset when it came to some things. He's old as gently caress but he's not EL. RIP Billy. e: dcbomba what percentage of posters ever actually change their votes?
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Ok consider me swayed by the thought of fighting a demon army/dragon on Rocback- Imagine if we'd had Dwayne during our dream sequence, shits badass Changing vote to 2 - AC, raise it ourselves but hire a falconry expert to hang out with us/our balls and teach us everything he knows. Put points into Skill Focus: Mighty Animal Husbandry. We can start by training the Rooster that we won, Stabby, to become the cock fighting champion of Zepath alpaca diseases fucked around with this message at 06:40 on May 6, 2014 |
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If we had a roc in our dream sequence, it would have been killed by our foe without too much difficulty I'm pretty sure. It is as nothing to that power.
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If we had an ancient Larry Bird by our side that thing will be snapping the necks of dragons and slurping up eyescreams like... icecream. Hell with our 'influence' it might even get metal feathers like the old tales.
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SerSpook posted:If we had a roc in our dream sequence, it would have been killed by our foe without too much difficulty I'm pretty sure. It is as nothing to that power. A god/demi-god being able to kill our roc isn't a compelling argument against it. Snarls couldn't take it either, but he is awesome and has many uses, just like a Roc would. It's not just a matter of going and getting a falcon to train and being happy with that. This is something we carried for months back to safety, nursing it along. We defeated its mother in an epic battle. Isn't this the stuff of heroes that Enkidel is supposed to be all about?
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Tsyni posted:A god/demi-god being able to kill our roc isn't a compelling argument against it. Snarls couldn't take it either, but he is awesome and has many uses, just like a Roc would. I honestly admit that I think trying to do this is just a waste of time. I have no strong objections to seeing until it's hatched, I am worried that actually trying it will just prolong the entire exercise when it isn't actually trainable. I think giving it to Indor is a legitimately more interesting choice on pretty much every level, especially since that could actually provide insight into what's up with monsters and magic. I don't know why everyone is so attached to a plan that is not that likely to work, won't give us that much of a real benefit, and has a chance of getting us killed. We have a perfectly good witch to give the egg to. I mainly want to give it to Taanach's temple to get out of Zepath. eta: Bronzing it and keeping it as a trophy is cool too I guess. SerSpook fucked around with this message at 07:19 on May 6, 2014 |
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SerSpook posted:I honestly admit that I think trying to do this is just a waste of time. I have no strong objections to seeing until it's hatched, I am worried that actually trying it will just prolong the entire exercise when it isn't actually trainable. I know that this is the objection of a lot of people voting against raising the Roc, but consider that we've been in this thread for...a year almost? It's been a while. Basically everything has been interesting. The outcome of raising the Roc is sure to be either way. I doubt we will have more than a few micromanaging votes specifically in regards to the Roc, especially if we tell Diog that we want to gloss over the gory details. I just imagine it as something that comes up as a number 4 or 5 question once in a while, and once it's raised it's another awesome tool in our hero tool-belt.
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Tsyni posted:I know that this is the objection of a lot of people voting against raising the Roc, but consider that we've been in this thread for...a year almost? It's been a while. Basically everything has been interesting. The outcome of raising the Roc is sure to be either way. I doubt we will have more than a few micromanaging votes specifically in regards to the Roc, especially if we tell Diog that we want to gloss over the gory details. I just imagine it as something that comes up as a number 4 or 5 question once in a while, and once it's raised it's another awesome tool in our hero tool-belt. I can't see that as viable based on what what A basically is. It's restructuring everything in our life around this. And if we don't make that kind of commitment, then it probably won't work. If we do this, then we have to put a bunch of other poo poo on hold. Going to Baitel and bringing a chained minotaur with us, for instance. Or exploring, since we'd be taking care of the roc and trying to ensure we can feed it. All on the off chance we can get a flying mount? And then we decide to upgrade once we find a dragon egg. tl;dr I prefer to just rid ourselves of the egg in some manner and don't strongly care which way.
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SerSpook posted:I think giving it to Indor is a legitimately more interesting choice on pretty much every level, especially since that could actually provide insight into what's up with monsters and magic. I don't know why everyone is so attached to a plan that is not that likely to work, won't give us that much of a real benefit, and has a chance of getting us killed. We have a perfectly good witch to give the egg to. Nah, Indor will just offer to do some mumbo-jumbo and make a 'wonder' for us, maybe, and then we'll all vote for maybe some more healing potions or silver. Tsyni posted:consider that we've been in this thread for...a year almost? It's been a while. Speaking of that! I noticed earlier that we've just recently passed 30000 posts. Looking through the first ten pages of this forum, that's roughly six times the next 'busiest' threads, save one, which has around 20k and has been operating since 2007 
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Theglavwen posted:Nah, Indor will just offer to do some mumbo-jumbo and make a 'wonder' for us, maybe, and then we'll all vote for maybe some more healing potions or silver. Imperial Guard is a good CYOA and it is a fun read. Go read it when you have the time. Also if we do go with silver or potions, we'll get a gently caress ton of each at least.
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SerSpook posted:I can't see that as viable based on what what A basically is. It's restructuring everything in our life around this. And if we don't make that kind of commitment, then it probably won't work. Honestly the biggest let-down about just going "eh okay ishamal we'll listen to you" and then going off to sacrifice the egg is that it's a very rare opportunity, and we will learn SOMETHING at the very least from it. Every one of our attempts to poke and experiment, while they may not have worked perfectly, has resulted in us gaining a fuckload of knowledge about this setting. At some cost, of course, but still worth it. If we hadn't tried the breathing stunt, we would still never have gotten confirmation of ??? and be just poking around pipe-dreams as to what is powering us. Ish would never tell us about ??? any time soon.
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Lanky Coconut Tree posted:Honestly the biggest let-down about just going "eh okay ishamal we'll listen to you" and then going off to sacrifice the egg is that it's a very rare opportunity, and we will learn SOMETHING at the very least from it. It's trading the opportunity to learn about the egg (which Indor honestly seems the best bet on) in order to go to Taanach and learn stuff there. They have their own adventuring bands that do poo poo, we even met some of them in the Bareen incident. Saved one of them even, and he said he'd host us when next we come. It's also an opportunity to spread our fame some. Not just be a hero in Zepath, but get the people of Taanach to see us as one. Sure, they've heard stories, but almost none of them have interacted with us. Those who have, did so a few years ago, before we slew the demon. Speaking of that, Diog, do we get mentions of the demon slaying that often, from people not of Zepath? Like merchants? How is the story generally viewed?
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Completely unrelated to anything we're discussing, but I had a funny thought. Lullaya is currently making it as a fairly successful merchant, correct? Which would imply he travels to other cities, yes? Who is the all around awesome dude who merchants from other cities think quite highly of? Merchant: "Oh, you're from Zepath? Hey! Do you know Enkidel? Awesome guy, that one." Lullaya: 
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the_steve posted:If it were up to Ishamal, we would take a solemn vow to sit at home with our hands on the table where he could see them at all times for the next 300 years. And if it were up to Tsyni we'd have all the men in Zepath lined up so we can bite off their dicks for Asherah. I am so sorry the cool idea in your head doesn't get the reaction you want from Ish or Tudiya, but what did you really expect people to do when told they have to watch the Roc 24/7 for years in the hopes it can be snarlsed? We're not even talking tame, just making the Roc intelligent. Not to mention how many livestock would it go through in a month? Year? This isn't team boring rearing it's head, it's a terrible idea and you still haven't realized it, or you do and don't care about the consequences involved.
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I mean think about it this way, how many years did we own Snarls as a normal dog before we unwittingly made him what he was now? Three? Four? The fact that he was smarter than all the dogs and a domesticated animal is what made him Snarls before he became Snarls. At three or four years the Roc will be at least the size of a cow and eating its body weight in meat, and it'll still be dumb as a bag of rocks and ten times as mean.
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You guys , we have no idea how this roc is going to act, the rate at which it will grow, our intuition towards it, whether or not and how strong our subliminal influence will be on its mindstate, or any other number of things. So, let's hatch it and we can always kill it later if things get out of hand. It isn't going to just pop open and go on a rampage. We'll have time later to suss things out. I'm really sad we didn't keep the beak helmet. Not only is this the second time we've passed on an awesome trophy helmet, wearing it would have probably helped Larry to imprint on us 
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Nolaterif posted:"Why would you want presents? You're already the envy of most women in Zepath. You have me all to yourself!" I didn't say that we shouldn't give her presents, in fact I voted to give her most of the feathers. I just wanted to remind everyone that if there were such a thing as a "sexiest man in Zepath" award, we would have won it several years running.
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JT Jag posted:I bet the people who want to raise the Roc are the same people who were against raising a family because it would be micromanaging. Hey man I've been pro-family the whole time and I'm voting in favor of this crazy rear end idea. Also I bet Roc feathers actually do get hard as bronze, but only as they get older. Sort of like Grove Scorpions and acid blood.
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I was slowly going through the Land Between Rivers thread, but recently I'm getting a database error each time I've tried to access it. Could anyone throw me a link, please? 1. C, as awesome as a pet Roc would be, maybe we should start taking hints when absolutely everyone tells us we're wrong. 2. I 3. Omelette 4. A EDIT: Bolded votes Fat Samurai fucked around with this message at 12:52 on May 6, 2014 |
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W. Put the egg in the balls.
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We'll have plenty of time to raise all kinds of wild animals and beasts when we're older, we're constantly growing in strength and if the future holds any truth, we're going to be insanely strong, which means raising rocs aren't going to be any problems when we're older.
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Sir Coq of Nandos posted:1C. DANAL LIVES. +1 However, I must stipulate that we will not ignore our son in favour of the Roc.
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Greggster posted:We'll have plenty of time to raise all kinds of wild animals and beasts when we're older, we're constantly growing in strength and if the future holds any truth, we're going to be insanely strong, which means raising rocs aren't going to be any problems when we're older. Yeah but were not going to have a roc egg when were older
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