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e X
Feb 23, 2013

cool but crude

nine-gear crow posted:

$300, at most. KnM is apparently a 12 episode series and Chuck charges $50 for a 2-episode block.

According to the price chart on his website, it's $50 for a 2 episode block, if the episodes are shorter than 30 minutes, so about 300 should cover it. Or it counts as a mini series, in that case it would be $200.

SFDebris posted:

$50 for an episode of less than 50 minutes
$100 for an episode larger than 50 minutes (or a 2-hour special event)
$75 for a pre-1990 Dr. Who serial, regardless of length (Trial of a Time Lord is 4 serials, not 1)
$50 for a pair of 30-minute or less episodes
$50 per original broadcast hour for mini-series

Which means that some dumb nerd paid between $200-$300 for this poo poo. :cripes:

e X fucked around with this message at 00:04 on May 16, 2014

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Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



Edit - I'm actually the first person to mock trigger warnings, but I actually had a bit of trouble after watching this*, so - be warned, the video deals with cruelty to animals.

Is that a new AT4W commercial break?

(*Truly, a lesson in tumblr tolerance was learned this day, thanks to extremely relevant flashbacks to that time I got my nose broken)

Xander77 fucked around with this message at 16:32 on May 16, 2014

DStecks
Feb 6, 2012

This is a bit of an older discussion, but I think that a lot of the so-called "problems" with internet critics can be traced back to the fact that the whole movement wasn't born of traditional film criticism, or anything like that. Ultimately, every critic is either doing MST3K or the AVGN, sometimes both (Spoony). It's not really meant to be a critical analysis of a work, it's a comedy routine built around a work, and trying to evaluate it like you'd evaluate Ebert is nonsense.

BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

by Lowtax

DStecks posted:

This is a bit of an older discussion, but I think that a lot of the so-called "problems" with internet critics can be traced back to the fact that the whole movement wasn't born of traditional film criticism, or anything like that. Ultimately, every critic is either doing MST3K or the AVGN, sometimes both (Spoony). It's not really meant to be a critical analysis of a work, it's a comedy routine built around a work, and trying to evaluate it like you'd evaluate Ebert is nonsense.

Is mockery not a form of critique?

Benny the Snake
Apr 11, 2012

GUM CHEWING INTENSIFIES
Oancitizen's Shakespeare month continues with "A Midsummer Night's Cream". And yes, it's porn.

DStecks
Feb 6, 2012

BottledBodhisvata posted:

Is mockery not a form of critique?

Wasn't the whole point of Rifftrax doing Casablanca to prove that "no, MST3K is not criticism"?

Pirate Jenny
Mar 28, 2006

Sie wissen nicht, mit wem Sie reden.

BottledBodhisvata posted:

Is mockery not a form of critique?

Not as far as Fair Use and copyright laws it ain't.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Benny the Snake posted:

Oancitizen's Shakespeare month continues with "A Midsummer Night's Cream". And yes, it's porn.

He seemed a bit overly angry with this one. I mean yeah, it's a disposable porn take on a classic, but it's not like it's going to cause mass burnings of the play or negatively effect anyone's understanding of it.

Then again, clearly A Midsummer Night's Dream means something special to Kyle, so I guess I can see why a terrible version of it would annoy him.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

DStecks posted:

Wasn't the whole point of Rifftrax doing Casablanca to prove that "no, MST3K is not criticism"?

I thought it was that MST3K isn't INHERENTLY criticism.

DStecks
Feb 6, 2012

The Vosgian Beast posted:

He seemed a bit overly angry with this one. I mean yeah, it's a disposable porn take on a classic, but it's not like it's going to cause mass burnings of the play or negatively effect anyone's understanding of it.

Then again, clearly A Midsummer Night's Dream means something special to Kyle, so I guess I can see why a terrible version of it would annoy him.

A Midsummer Night's Dream is already kind of a lowbrow comedy anyway. :confused:

Tatum Girlparts posted:

I thought it was that MST3K isn't INHERENTLY criticism.

Eh, I would still argue that it invalidates riffing as criticism, by showing that you can riff on something that's good. Basically what I'm saying is that if riffing can be shown to be illegitimate form of criticism ever, then it's called into question whenever it's used. This was also the entire point of Brad's Mommie Dearest review: that a really good movie can look stupid and lovely when you rob it of context.

It's like a logical fallacy; prove it fallacious once and it's always illegitimate. Of course, you can still use a fallacious argument to advance a correct point, but a fallacious argument advancing a correct point is still fallacious.

(I should add that I love the poo poo out of MST3K and I myself am a riffer, but it's not really true criticism.)

Miss Wallace
Feb 24, 2013

The nights will never be the same. ARARARAR!
This is all assuming you can't critique something that's good, which is untrue. No movie without flaw exists.

But also you can make fun of anything, so both sides have a point.

beep by grandpa
May 5, 2004

Miss Wallace posted:

This is all assuming you can't critique something that's good, which is untrue. No movie without flaw exists.

I see someone hasn't seen Face/Off...

OrangeKing
Dec 5, 2002

They do play in October!

Miss Wallace posted:

This is all assuming you can't critique something that's good, which is untrue. No movie without flaw exists.

Heck, even saying something is utterly without flaw would be a form of criticism. Probably not a very good critique of anything I've ever seen/read/heard, but nonetheless. I think people sometimes confuse the varying definitions of "criticism" -- in the sense of analyzing a work of art, there's no reason it has to be negative.

DStecks
Feb 6, 2012

Miss Wallace posted:

This is all assuming you can't critique something that's good, which is untrue. No movie without flaw exists.

But also you can make fun of anything, so both sides have a point.

I think you're misunderstanding how I'm using the word criticism. A critique can be positive, or negative, or even neither if you're into more esoteric critical methods like postmodernism. The gist of what I'm arguing is that just because you can make fun of something, doesn't mean it's bad. Therefore making fun of something is not a metric of quality.

Really, some of the worst things can be some of the hardest to make fun of. Even MST3K can't make Coleman Francis's oeuvre palatable.

cubs2084
Feb 2, 2009
I went to C2E2 a couple weeks ago. Got to meet mister Cinema Snob, Brad Jones:





SUPER nice guy. He was happy to chat analytical film geek talk for a few minutes, and was really engaging and friendly. Was nice to see that the passion for films that comes across in his work translates to real life too. My girlfriend was quite amused to see how much I was enjoying the conversation, since none of my friends are quite into such discussions as I am. One of the highlights of the frantic day. (also, he's WAY shorter than I ever realized)

As a bonus, I also met Tony Todd and got him to sign my DVD of Night of the Living Dead ^_^

Testekill
Nov 1, 2012

I demand to be taken seriously

:aronrex:

So are you just average height and Brad is jujst really short or is Tony Todd a giant?

cubs2084
Feb 2, 2009

Testekill posted:

So are you just average height and Brad is jujst really short or is Tony Todd a giant?

Hah. Both. Brad was sitting down when I wandered over, and he remarked "Just let me get up off the floor here..." Not a tall guy, which really surprised me, since you don't really get that impression in any of his videos. Tony Todd is just freaking huge. Dude is like 6'6". I'm 6'0", myself, so it was so odd to feel short like that.

Franz von Dada
Feb 10, 2014

A Boy and His Parasite

Benny the Snake posted:

Oancitizen's Shakespeare month continues with "A Midsummer Night's Cream". And yes, it's porn.

Yo, Kyle. You should do The Opening of Misty Beethoven next.

You know, since you're doing porn now. :v:

Infamous Sphere
Nov 8, 2010
Blargh oh my god yes, I have read fanfiction, in a way it's a guilty pleasure/so bad it's good thing. I can't read trashy romance though. Fanfiction..oh god..some of the anatomical limitations are..well..let's just say these women don't very much und
He's done porn before (Otto or Up with Dead People at the very least.)

New review! I'd been threatening it, and now I've I finally taken a look at Blue is the Warmest Colour.

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
I know the camera tends to add height and weight to a person but holy hell Brad is a short dude :stare:

I Am Fowl
Mar 8, 2008

nononononono

Benne posted:

I know the camera tends to add height and weight to a person but holy hell Brad is a short dude :stare:

Dunno, he's always seemed fairly short to me. Don't know why you guys are so shocked.

Leelee
Jul 31, 2012

Syntax Error
Ah, Lupa. My husband and I were bugging our cat and he started saying "A TALKING CAAAT" just like you.

Maybe you had to be there, but I died laughing.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Mr. Fowl posted:

Dunno, he's always seemed fairly short to me. Don't know why you guys are so shocked.

He mostly shoots himself sitting down, and in singles, so you don't get a point of comparison.

OldTennisCourt
Sep 11, 2011

by VideoGames
Retsupurae has been doing some Kickstarter failure viddeos lately and it's amazing. This is by far the best one so far: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzIAI3iri2c

$500,000 for a terrible WOW clone.

Miss Wallace
Feb 24, 2013

The nights will never be the same. ARARARAR!

Leelee posted:

Ah, Lupa. My husband and I were bugging our cat and he started saying "A TALKING CAAAT" just like you.

Maybe you had to be there, but I died laughing.

Ha ha, I was saying that all the time while shooting that video.

Brad is one of the few non-giants on the site, which is great because I feel less short.

Violet_Sky
Dec 5, 2011



Fun Shoe
TURN DOWN FOR WHAT!

http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/turn-down-for-what-by-dj-snake-and-lil-jon-6887511

YEAH! OKAY!

Lichtenstein
May 31, 2012

It'll make sense, eventually.
Todd has entered some Stockholm syndrome territory.

Ghostpilot
Jun 22, 2007

"As a rule, I never touch anything more sophisticated and delicate than myself."
A song like that makes me feel old and out-of-touch for not liking, but good god, just listen to it. And I liked Prodigy's "Smack My Bitch Up."

Zedd
Jul 6, 2009

I mean, who would have noticed another madman around here?



Sometimes I miss the EDM that was popular where I live during the late 90's and 00's, but nostalgia is silly.

Zedd fucked around with this message at 18:43 on May 18, 2014

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
Turn Down For What is a really great video and a pretty solid song that's mainly to showcase DJ Snake's skills, but more importantly it's a loving club song, who reviews that seriously?

For someone trying to understand club music I think Todd legitimately doesn't understand club songs. Like Selfie had 'ambition' because it had words? He really needs to abort this because his awkward stumbling about trying to explain why Daft Punk was ok but the loud black people aren't really summed up why this is dumb.

sexpig by night fucked around with this message at 19:08 on May 18, 2014

Lichtenstein
May 31, 2012

It'll make sense, eventually.
Myself I find the video to be quite embarassing.

Violet_Sky
Dec 5, 2011



Fun Shoe
I like the song and video myself. The video doesn't really take itself seriously and that's fine for a "viral" hit. It's so absurd to the point of being hilarious. Lil'John helps by being...Lil'John. At least the music video is interesting unlike Harlem Shake.

However, Todd does need to review less EDM. "Let it go" seems like a good choice. "Best day of my life" seems good as well.

MisterBadIdea
Oct 9, 2012

Anything?

Tatum Girlparts posted:

Turn Down For What is a really great video and a pretty solid song that's mainly to showcase DJ Snake's skills, but more importantly it's a loving club song, who reviews that seriously?

For someone trying to understand club music I think Todd legitimately doesn't understand club songs. Like Selfie had 'ambition' because it had words? He really needs to abort this because his awkward stumbling about trying to explain why Daft Punk was ok but the loud black people aren't really summed up why this is dumb.

...Did you watch the whole review?

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



I don't care much for the song, but it's a better and more logical fit for Lil Jon than the last song he was in that Todd reviewed, Do You Remember. Lil Jon being in that song still baffles me to this day.

Pirate Jenny
Mar 28, 2006

Sie wissen nicht, mit wem Sie reden.

Tatum Girlparts posted:

Turn Down For What is a really great video and a pretty solid song that's mainly to showcase DJ Snake's skills, but more importantly it's a loving club song, who reviews that seriously?

For someone trying to understand club music I think Todd legitimately doesn't understand club songs. Like Selfie had 'ambition' because it had words? He really needs to abort this because his awkward stumbling about trying to explain why Daft Punk was ok but the loud black people aren't really summed up why this is dumb.

I see someone didn't pass the reading comprehension portion of the test.

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



Tatum Girlparts posted:

Turn Down For What is a really great video and a pretty solid song that's mainly to showcase DJ Snake's skills, but more importantly it's a loving club song, who reviews that seriously?

For someone trying to understand club music I think Todd legitimately doesn't understand club songs. Like Selfie had 'ambition' because it had words? He really needs to abort this because his awkward stumbling about trying to explain why Daft Punk was ok but the loud black people aren't really summed up why this is dumb.
That racist rear end in a top hat. How dare he.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

MisterBadIdea posted:

...Did you watch the whole review?

Yea, I'm not saying he fuckin hated it I'm saying he seems to legitimately not understand that songs like that aren't from the same kinda place as other songs he reviews. Like he focuses forever on the lyrics before moving on and barely talks at all about DJ Snake's talents in it, and that's kinda missing the point of the song. Like, he's coming at it as a Lil John song with DJ Snake backing him up but it's the other way around. It doesn't matter that much what Lil John is saying because that's not the focus of the song. Then he talks about how Selfie had 'more ambition' purely on wordcount when that was the most check-list built, completely cold, attempt to 'go viral' since Rebecca Black.

Also on a pure sperg note trap stuff being blended in isn't as brand new and astounding in EDM as he played it up as, it's been a thing for a couple years and a good while before Harlem Shake. He honestly did the song a disservice by being all 'oh wow it's a trap EDM song woah that's so refreshing' as if that inherently was why people were liking it as something new, instead of the fact that the two dudes are legitimately really skilled at that poo poo. Like, it's not a great song because it's better than Harlem Shake, it's great because the people behind it are legitimately massively talented.

Jesus christ I'm not saying he's the worst person in the world, I'm saying he seems to be reviewing a kind of music he doesn't really get, and that's not great.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
Honestly, for me, the difference between most EDM and Daft Punk is simple. Punk evoke a mood, most EDM evokes movement. It's in the name, EDM is designed to get you up and moving in the club, and that's great, a lot of DJs are extremely skilled at that, and there's a definite art to it. But I never understand the notion of listening to those tracks in any other setting. Compare to most Daft Punk tracks, which have this spacey joyous feel. I can listen to them because there's an attempt to generate an emotion from me that isn't confined to a specific social context.

Maybe I'm crazy or I don't 'get' EDM, but that's just how I feel about it.

ACES CURE PLANES
Oct 21, 2010



Gaz-L posted:

Maybe I'm crazy or I don't 'get' EDM, but that's just how I feel about it.

Yeah, this is kind of how I feel about it. I would never listen to something like Turn Down For What on my own, it's not musically interesting to me, and it ranges between boring and contemptible depending on the song, but on the rare occasions where I go out to dance clubs and bars, I'm definitely into it. They just strike me as songs that are good in the context of a club but outside of it, it just seems weird.

That's my viewpoint on it, at least. Todd just seems out of his element taking a critical view of a song like that, it's not really what it's about.

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Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
My opinion of the song is that "TURN DOWN FOR WHAT" is really loving fun to yell after a few beers.

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