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If vi can do macros then modo sure can. Click 'begin recording' button. Make some onscreen selections (activate viscera seer, target redcap, pass priority, stack etb targeting opponent, press yes to use ability), after one cycle click 'end recording' button. Then for the first playback cycle it should prompt what it's about to do at each step (activating 1st ability of object viscera seer y/n, targeting permanent named redcap y/n, etc etc). Once you've confirmed one loop click play loop once or play loop 10x or whatever. Preempt if opponent takes an action. As long as it could go off of object names or positions/ordering on the battlefield or other zones it should be doable.
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That's one thing that pisses me off about the beta. I don't hate it as much as everyone else, I actually find it to be a minor improvement, but it doesn't address any of the real issues with modo. It still has all the same annoyances and is just a re-skin. Even if they don't add full looping they could fix the auto yielding. You can't auto yield any part of that combo. The faeries and wall are both considered new objects after they flicker, so yielding to their triggers get reset. You would assume auto yielding to the denizen would work, but nope its ability requires a target and modo is too stupid to let you auto choose the same target each time. Has anyone ever tried resolving a storm spell with 10 different copies? That's another not to play this deck on modo. Its so much fun though.
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That makes sense, I was thinking more loop detection than macros. I'd have no issue with that, but for stuff where you need to say target a different creature or whatever each loop it still doesn't save a load of time. alternative sarcastic answer: modo programmers are certainly capable of even the easiest of these implementations! e: ^^^^ Yeah I'd like to brew some combos or whatever on modo but they're just such a drag to actually play.
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How viable is legacy re-animator right now with all the graveyard hate out right now, decent or not?
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mehall posted:Basically, fast mana into either Balustrade Spy or Undercity Informer. Target yourself, mill everything. This puts a few critters into play (normally the narcomoeba's). Sac 3 creatures to flashback dread return, to get Cerberus into play. Sac Cerberus to Cabal Therapy, to trigger his ability, you now have Laboratory Maniac in hand, along with the Spirit Guides. Exile the spirit guides and play either a lotus petal or a manamorphose or something, get blue mana, play Lab maniac, And the final, important step, cycle Street Wraith. It helps if you've cast Therapy to see your opponent's hand and decided whether or not you need to wait until your next draw step or you can safely win immediately.
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May 20, 2014 01:30
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homerlaw posted:How viable is legacy re-animator right now with all the graveyard hate out right now, decent or not? TinFins is a deck, but Dredge and Breakfast Burrito are faster decks.
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May 20, 2014 01:52
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Everblight posted:TinFins is a deck, but Dredge and Breakfast Burrito are faster decks. Combo deck names: still stupid as all hell. What is Tin Fins?
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Elyv posted:Combo deck names: still stupid as all hell. What is Tin Fins? Since I only found out recently: It's named after an episode of Sealab 2021, wherein there are plenty of advertisements for a restaurant called Grizzlebees: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnoZimnLqyY
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Carsten Kotter posted a cool R/B reanimator deck in his SCG article today someone want to lend me a couple grand so I can build it thanks in advance.
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Niton posted:Since I only found out recently: It's named after an episode of Sealab 2021, wherein there are plenty of advertisements for a restaurant called Grizzlebees: ... that's about as stupid as the thing in the 90s where they named combo decks after breakfast cereals.
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homerlaw posted:How viable is legacy re-animator right now with all the graveyard hate out right now, decent or not? The actual deck Reanimator is super real and has top 8'd a bunch of opens recently. gang sines posted:Carsten Kotter posted a cool R/B reanimator deck in his SCG article today someone want to lend me a couple grand so I can build it thanks in advance. There is a twitch streamer that plays a pretty similar deck, but with faithless lootings, more artifact fatties and goblin welders. Edit: Holy poo poo that Illusions-Donate deck is hilarious. Johnny Five-Jaces fucked around with this message at 03:43 on May 20, 2014 |
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May 20, 2014 03:41
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AgentSythe posted:The actual deck Reanimator is super real and has top 8'd a bunch of opens recently. I have played all kinds of decks from all kinds of retro formats and Illusions-Donate is one of the most entertaining. "Gain 20 life, necro for 15, Force of Will all your poo poo, next turn I'll pay the 2 and Donate this to you."
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May 20, 2014 03:47
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AgentSythe posted:
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Snacksmaniac posted:That deck's back? I don't know almost anything about Legacy, but if Trix is back I'd be shocked.
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Snacksmaniac posted:That deck's back? Sadly, no. There are too many two-card instant-kill combos to bother with one that costs 5UU to eventually deal 20 damage.
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Snacksmaniac posted:That deck's back? Carsten Kotter wrote about a couple of Legacy decks he thought were interesting to spotlight stuff outside the mainstream meta. There was a Tax-Rack deck in there too.
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Well I got all worked up about nothing  It is interesting to have that in a prison shell, but I'll probably stick to Sneak and Breach instead of spending $60 on cards for a deck I'll never play.
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I'm going to repost my plan for a Hatebears deck over from the Brewhaus. I've only got some of the cards, but I'm wondering how off the mark I am/might be. 20 Land 4 Temple Garden 4 Sunpetal Grove 4 Ghost Quarter 2 Horizon Canopy 2 Gavony Township 2 Forest 2 Plains 8 Spells 4 Path to Exile 4 Aether Vial 32 Creatures 4 Soldier of the Pantheon 4 Noble Hierarch 4 Leonin Arbiter 2 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben 4 Voice of Resurgence 3 Qasali Pridemage 2 Aven Mindcensor 2 Loxodon Smiter 3 Blade Splicer 3 Restoration Angel 1 Akroma, Angel of Fury Sideboard 3 Rest in Peace 2 Scavenging Ooze 4 Dryad Militant 2 Gaddock Teeg 2 Stony Silence 2 Leyline of Sanctity ---- The general gameplan is to abuse the Arbiters and Mindcensors to lock down my enemy's land and creatures (using Path and Ghost Quarter), then beat them to death with good cheap creatures. Precisely how terrible is this? e: Edited somewhat. ungulateman fucked around with this message at 05:29 on May 20, 2014 |
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Elyv posted:Combo deck names: still stupid as all hell. What is Tin Fins? Its a crazy storm/reanimator hybrid that want to get Grisslebrand in the yard then use shallow grave on him to get him back all hastey, draw a ton of cards then use children of korlis to gain that life back (and draw more cards), then use another shallow grave to reanimate Emrakul or just draw enough rituals + tendrils to finish the opponent off.
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ungulateman posted:I'm going to repost my plan for a Hatebears Seems fine. With all of the Snapcaster Mages running around, there is an argument for Dryad Militant main instead of the Soldier of the Pantheons. I'd find a home for some equipment, shaving Loxodon Smiters. Might want to go up to 3 RIPs, and just two Leylines seems weird. I assume that card is for the burn matchup?. If you can afford it, I've seen versions of this shave some of their numbers and do things with Resto Angel/Blade Splicer/Flickerwisp, but that deck also runs vial.
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ungulateman posted:The general gameplan is to abuse the Arbiters and Mindcensors to lock down my enemy's land and creatures (using Path and Ghost Quarter), then beat them to death with good cheap creatures. Precisely how terrible is this? You absolutely need to have aether vials. It's key to the deck. I would also consider running things like resto angel and especially flickerwisp. I love flickerwisp as a super versatile card that can do a whole lot for you. I don't think you'll want to run 4 mindcensor's or loxodon smiters. You could also consider akroma, angel of fury as a card you play for the morph cost and then flicker back in. See if you like Brimaz maybe? edit: forgot about blade splicers but ^^^ that person didn't
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Key thing with Tin Fins - Fury of the Horde. You can just keep touching them with GB until you either kill them, or dig up what you need to kill them.
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There's a modern deck that runs that, looting and bolts? Not sure what the red cards are.
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Bugsy posted:Its a crazy storm/reanimator hybrid that want to get Grisslebrand in the yard then use shallow grave on him to get him back all hastey, draw a ton of cards then use children of korlis to gain that life back (and draw more cards), then use another shallow grave to reanimate Emrakul or just draw enough rituals + tendrils to finish the opponent off.
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AgentSythe posted:Seems fine. With all of the Snapcaster Mages running around, there is an argument for Dryad Militant main instead of the Soldier of the Pantheons. I'd find a home for some equipment, shaving Loxodon Smiters. Might want to go up to 3 RIPs, and just two Leylines seems weird. I assume that card is for the burn matchup?. If you can afford it, I've seen versions of this shave some of their numbers and do things with Resto Angel/Blade Splicer/Flickerwisp, but that deck also runs vial. My original plan was to include Dryad Militant in the board for Storm, but I figured being able to poo poo all over enemy Kitchen Finks with a 1 drop was too good to pass up. I've looked at some of the Hatebear lists on Mtgtop8, and most of them run the Resto/Splicer/Flickerwisp combo, so I'll probably find a way to make that work. uggy posted:You absolutely need to have aether vials. It's key to the deck. I would also consider running things like resto angel and especially flickerwisp. I love flickerwisp as a super versatile card that can do a whole lot for you. I don't think you'll want to run 4 mindcensor's or loxodon smiters. You could also consider akroma, angel of fury as a card you play for the morph cost and then flicker back in. See if you like Brimaz maybe? Aether Vials are now on my list. Are they hideously expensive? I can't recall. I will probably run less than a playset of some of those cards, that list was more of a first-pass thing to get some feedback. I'll go back and edit it with some more ideas.
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ungulateman posted:My original plan was to include Dryad Militant in the board for Storm, but I figured being able to poo poo all over enemy Kitchen Finks with a 1 drop was too good to pass up. I've looked at some of the Hatebear lists on Mtgtop8, and most of them run the Resto/Splicer/Flickerwisp combo, so I'll probably find a way to make that work. AEther vial is like $20.
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ungulateman posted:1 Akroma, Angel of Fury Is this a typo? That's a red card, way too expensive and bad for your gameplan, and I'm assuming it was accidentally pasted in.
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AATREK CURES KIDS posted:Is this a typo? That's a red card, way too expensive and bad for your gameplan, and I'm assuming it was accidentally pasted in. When you exile it with Flickerwisp/Restoration Angel, it comes back unmorphed.
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AATREK CURES KIDS posted:Is this a typo? That's a red card, way too expensive and bad for your gameplan, and I'm assuming it was accidentally pasted in.  restoration angel
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I didn't get it either when I saw it on the mtgtop8 lists, but the thread's answered both of us regarding that.
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Caleb Durward made some videos with the deck if you're interested.
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ungulateman posted:I'm going to repost my plan for a Hatebears deck over from the Brewhaus. I've only got some of the cards, but I'm wondering how off the mark I am/might be. There was a really good article on Channel Fireball about GW D&T. I really liked his list, mostly because I have a boner for Blade Splicer + Flickerwisp/RestoAngel. http://www.channelfireball.com/home/valuable-lessons-modern-death-and-taxes/
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ungulateman posted:I'm going to repost my plan for a Hatebears deck over from the Brewhaus. I've only got some of the cards, but I'm wondering how off the mark I am/might be. Your bears just don't hate enough. The whole point of the deck is that you play hosers that also swing for damage. Take Dryad Militant: it actually fits with the whole plan of the deck, because it hoses a ton of common plays and also swings for 2. gently caress Snapcaster, gently caress Dread Return, gently caress Past in Flames, whatever. Even fucks up Goyf. Hatebears isn't about playing strong cheap dudes (because that'd be Zoo) it's about disruption that also turns sideways for the win.
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This deck that won the Modern tourney at Bazaar of Moxen might be of interest to you if you want to do hatebears in Modern: http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/deck/1495
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Got to play Modern for the first time with a borrowed Storm deck (thanks again, Everblight) over the weekend. Now I've got to slowly pick up overpriced fetchlands so I can build my own, but holy poo poo storm owns.
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Hi, Tin Fins isn't Reanimator. Please don't conflate decks tia. Reanimator is a Combo-Control deck that has a toolbox to reanimate out (i.e. Griselbrand, Iona, Elesh Norn, Sphinx, etc). The deck is full of countermagic and control elements and it just so happns to use Reanimate (and Exhume) and Entomb because it's a win-con package that only takes up a few slots. Tin Fins is a combo deck that smashes with a Goryo's Vengeanced / Shallow Graved Griselbrand and then uses it as a draw7 to fuel out a Tendrils (or in the Modern version uses Fury of the Horde to keep smashing). Zoness fucked around with this message at 15:50 on May 20, 2014 |
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Everblight posted:TinFins is a deck, but Dredge and Breakfast Burrito are faster decks. How the gently caress does someone ask about Legacy Reanimator, an actually good deck, and you assume they're talking about a gimmicky combo deck. Legacy Reanimator is actually a very good deck, part of the reason its so insane is that its basically the combo deck that beats other combo decks. Your show and tell matchup is actually absurd since they can't reliably cast S&T against you and you also have counterspells and discard against them and all the other combo decks. DRS decks are of course a pain, as are Liliana decks but you can still beat them. The deck reliably places at SCG Opens fairly often. ChewyLSB fucked around with this message at 15:54 on May 20, 2014 |
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So, I read about a budget legacy storm deck a while ago using the Invasion Sac lands. Is that a real thing still, or was it ever? Here's the list, I have no idea when it was last updated http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/legacy-type-1-5/budget-legacy/186144-primer-sac-land-tendrils
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A Moose posted:So, I read about a budget legacy storm deck a while ago using the Invasion Sac lands. Is that a real thing still, or was it ever? Here's the list, I have no idea when it was last updated It's not as good as the real decks, but it can steal victories at low-level tournaments. Note that if you don't own any of the pieces it will be more expensive than that writer says, because Burning Wish has gone up in price.
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