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Task Manager posted:I honestly would consider voting Team FishDad ( my "I voted to cut our hand with the shark tooth" bumper sticker proudly attests to my early Hunger days); there's just no way in hell anyone let's us stomp off out of Zepath right now. We aren't up to that yet as a whole. To get there, we have to build up these rumblings of hunger. Sure, for now it's a minority. But others knowing that they aren't alone in their craving helps. You, for example, have sympathies. But few will come when the time is at hand if they think they are alone in their craving. Us expressing our will now, even in a losing vote, rallies others who starve.
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Task Manager posted:I honestly would consider voting Team FishDad ( my "I voted to cut our hand with the shark tooth" bumper sticker proudly attests to my early Hunger days); there's just no way in hell anyone let's us stomp off out of Zepath right now. The problem with plan fishdad is that it's less of a plan and more of a gently caress all other plans.
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Basscop posted:Well that's a lot of baseless assumptions in one post. We couldn't possibly do something Danal just did with nothing but a spear. He's better than us in every way. That's why we're careful to husband our resources and never use them to advance our story, but spend them freely when he's the beneficiary. He's the hero, we're the lovely sidekick.
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Bularin posted:We couldn't possibly do something Danal just did with nothing but a spear. He's better than us in every way. That's why we're careful to husband our resources and never use them to advance our story, but spend them freely when he's the beneficiary. Such is the path we tread. Danal could be the best asset we have. Hopefully he becomes more. Shows us what we could have been. That could light a spark for us to change. One way or the other.
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Task Manager posted:I honestly would consider voting Team FishDad Honest question for team hunger, if we switch teams and start praising Asherah, what makes you think we will survive it? Team Hunger is all about eternal hunger, and not our hunger. There is only one destiny for team Asherah and that is to be eaten. Sure, we might get a huge boost in power and some cool stuff upfront but after eating our 50th village will it be fun anymore? When we have to eat everyone we know just to avoid being eaten ourselves, will it still be fun then? When we devolve into nothing more than a soulless monster will we be happy we traded away a life full of friends and family for power we could have achieved on our own, will it be fun then? I don't know what team hunger expects, it was made pretty clear to us that we are just another tasty morsel to a being infinitely our greater. If you think well be able to devour the great devourer than you are delusional at best. Choosing Asherah is suicide, plain and simple.
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Basscop posted:The problem with plan fishdad is that it's less of a plan and more of a gently caress all other plans.
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Arkanomen posted:Honest question for team El, if we keep praising El, what makes you think we will survive it? Team El is all about eternal soup straining, and not our soup. There is only one destiny for team El and that is to strain soup. Sure, we might get a huge boost in power and some cool stuff upfront but after straining our 50th soup bowl will it be fun anymore? When we have to strain everysoup we know just to avoid being strained ourselves, will it still be fun then? When we devolve into nothing more than a soulless monster will we be happy we traded away a life full of flesh golems and power for we soup could have strained on our own, will it be fun then? I don't know what team El expects, it was made pretty clear to us that we are just another handy soup strainer to a being infinitely our soupier. If you think well be able to strain the great soup strainer than you are delusional at best. Choosing El is soupicide, plain and simple.
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Arkanomen posted:Based on this vote phase alone there is no greater irony than Enkidel thinking he can help a troubled mind when we have such a stellar one of our own. How we haven't been smote yet is beyond this little synapse. Oh yeah, I wasnt really meaning personally. We're a basket case ourselves. I was more wondering if, say the temple of El had any ways to help a troubled mind or something along those lines. Otherwise, without the flute, snarls the therapy dog is probably the best thing we can do for him ourselves
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When we've finally killed Enki in a blaze of Keep fighten the good fight, fishies. You eternal commitment to HUNGER is a love story for the ages. 
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You still didn't answer my question. What is your plan to avoid 1. Getting smote and 2. Not getting eaten by Asherah? Is it just to murderhobo as we please and get a quick power boost? I mean that's fine, but don't pretend it's going to end well.
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Vagon posted:Thanks for calling us stupid for having a different idea as to what is and isn't fun. C'mon, it's a game. We vote differently without hating the other voting blocs. Fishdad is amusing and it isn't as if team Hunger is a newcomer. I realize that you may not have been one of those doing so in the past, but I take it that you personally will abstain from ever complaining about Team Boring from this point on? Also this whole argument is setting us up for a dramatic 2nd Round between Shushem and Tudiya with a better-informed and far less mentally stable Enkidel in the middle. Who will we choose this time?! Bularin posted:We couldn't possibly do something Danal just did with nothing but a spear. He's better than us in every way. That's why we're careful to husband our resources and never use them to advance our story, but spend them freely when he's the beneficiary. Funnily enough, the reason why Danal could pull it off is probably because he is explicitly less powerful and important than we are. Nobody was paying attention to him because they didn't think he could pull a stunt like this and didn't think he was worth bothering with until it was too late. Our arrival, on the other hand, would be noticed earlier and taken more seriously. Come to think of it... Diog, can we sense our own Presence, at all?
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Vagon posted:Thanks for calling us stupid for having a different idea as to what is and isn't fun. C'mon, it's a game. We vote differently without hating the other voting blocs. Fishdad is amusing and it isn't as if team Hunger is a newcomer. I have similar feelings whenever 'Team Boring' gets trotted out. It'd be nice is this poo poo stopped all together.
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Ok, ok. Let's play nice. I imagine a hunger game would have been what we got if this thread was in GBS, and I also think it would have been fun in a ridiculous way, just like the Denziroh game had giant turtles ejaculating waterfalls, basically (maybe some of you -do-hate fun :P). I don't see a good reason to fight too hard against team Asherah at the moment, we're ragged and beaten and could probably only get 10% of a straight-up "join Asherah" vote. Let us dream for now, instead of the constant boots of El on our neck, crushing even the hope to dream.
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Tsyni posted:Ok, ok. Let's play nice. I imagine a hunger game would have been what we got if this thread was in GBS, and I also think it would have been fun in a ridiculous way, just like the Denziroh game had giant turtles ejaculating waterfalls, basically (maybe some of you -do-hate fun :P). What, pray tell, does the "Boot of El" keep us from doing?
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Arkanomen posted:What, pray tell, does the "Boot of El" keep us from doing? Solving the current debate between Tudiya and Danal by eating Ruth. Speaking of which, changing my vote from 1. B to 1. D. I like D less, but I like it better than E since it still leaves Danal the option to adopt later once he's ready and shows willing, and it has an actual chance of passage, unlike B.
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Arkanomen posted:You still didn't answer my question. What is your plan to avoid 1. Getting smote and 2. Not getting eaten by Asherah? Is it just to murderhobo as we please and get a quick power boost? I mean that's fine, but don't pretend it's going to end well. Clearly the endgame for Plan Fishdad is to eat Asherah.
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Arkanomen posted:What, pray tell, does the "Boot of El" keep us from doing? I hope it's clear that I'm a facetious gentleman and am pretty flippant in general. All I mean is that demanding we figure our the practicalities when we can only speculate about the nature of Asherah seems to be a waste time, especially since plan FishDad has a 0% chance to win. "How are you not going to not just get eaten, huh, huhhhh?" Is a question to figure out as we go. We were once a dinky slave and now we're here. It just doesn't seem like an insurmountable problem in the scheme of things. Enkidel is pretty great at being pious, so I have no doubt if we redirected that at Asherah and made some proper sacrifices that we'd be a useful tool to her. This is all besides the point, since team Asherah is a small minority.
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Tomn posted:I realize that you may not have been one of those doing so in the past, but I take it that you personally will abstain from ever complaining about Team Boring from this point on? I never have in the first place. Not once, in any of my comments or votes, have I even mentioned "Team Boring" to my knowledge.
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Bularin posted:We couldn't possibly do something Danal just did with nothing but a spear. He's better than us in every way. That's why we're careful to husband our resources and never use them to advance our story, but spend them freely when he's the beneficiary. You could completely smoke four Atharans. You are almost nine feet tall, muscular and have a bonus equal to roughly eight times your strength.
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Basscop posted:Well that's a lot of baseless assumptions in one post. 1. A tiny amount of ???, yes. Which will be offset by marching in heavy armor. A march to Athar means either sneaking around and avoiding all monsters, or fighting them all and draining them of their ???. There are monsters which regenerate their limbs as soon as their are pulled out. Enkidel's M.O. of taking out enemies like that so far has been Power Word: El. The latter strategy simply isn't an option. 2. The coast is where the really scary monsters like Eyescream hang out. You're suggesting to jump out of the frying pan and into the fire. 3. We went psycho-cannibal for a few seconds after we held our breath for too long, and it scared Snarls. 4. No, I don't know. Neither do you so this point is irrelevant. What we do know is that Sushem doesn't need us for the position we used to have. 5. Our trip will deplete us of ??? and there is only so much strength our natural frame provides. The point isn't whether we win that fight. If we ever come to blows with the cannibals, it means they will never accept us. 6. In time Enkidel will grow more powerful than Labaras. Strong enough to split the world in half, according to Ishamal, and Smythos agrees. Of course I do not know if we're being watched, but if I was an immortal near-omnipotent being, I'd definitely put a threat like that under constant monitoring. And you're wrong. We do know what the Melachim do with cannibals. They send kings and heroes after them. Vagon posted:Thanks for calling us stupid for having a different idea as to what is and isn't fun. C'mon, it's a game. We vote differently without hating the other voting blocs. Fishdad is amusing and it isn't as if team Hunger is a newcomer. I'm not calling you stupid and I'm not judging you on what you think is fun. I'm saying that the plan to move to Athar is suicide and that if you want to become a cannibal, there are better ways to achieve that goal.
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Tomn posted:I realize that you may not have been one of those doing so in the past, but I take it that you personally will abstain from ever complaining about Team Boring from this point on? You do not seem to be aware of it if you have one.
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Tsyni posted:Ok, ok. Let's play nice. I imagine a hunger game would have been what we got if this thread was in GBS, and I also think it would have been fun in a ridiculous way, just like the Denziroh game had giant turtles ejaculating waterfalls, basically (maybe some of you -do-hate fun :P). Honestly I've voted the way I had because towards the endgame of MadGod Diogenes hinted at this game being the next one, but was worried it wouldn't work if goons were as silly with the protagonist as they were with Deneziroh. All in all, even with Hunger voters, it's been followed. Up until we nearly jerked off a goat or considered drinking dog piss. Honestly it was that we played a maybe good, mostly bad semi divine creation that I was shooting for this one to be more of a good aligned character. We have a much more interesting character than my original intentions. It's hilarious to think that somewhere in Enki's psyche there is still a part of it that will always continue to hunger and hate and praise Asherah. I wonder if it hinders us in some aspects, and would find it hilarious if that was the case.
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Zybourne Clock posted:1. A tiny amount of ???, yes. Which will be offset by marching in heavy armor. A march to Athar means either sneaking around and avoiding all monsters, or fighting them all and draining them of their ???. There are monsters which regenerate their limbs as soon as their are pulled out. Enkidel's M.O. of taking out enemies like that so far has been Power Word: El. The latter strategy simply isn't an option. 1. We leave our heavy armor. Why would we ever bring it when we can have the freedom of a smiple loincloth for the rest of eternity? 2. You're basically ignoring my point by now. Did you even read about how Danal got there? Did you forget that we are super ninja stealthy in the wilds and possess a magical charm that enhances our ninjaness? 3. Sure we scared him once but if we eat snarls and breathe in his soul as it leaves his body he can be part of us forever and we never need to worry about his safety again. 4. He will want us. I'm pretty sure of it. 5. That's an assumption. I'm fairly certain we can manage to get to Athar without depleting the pie. 6. Don't you hate it when food gets delivered to your home?
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Basscop posted:4. He will want us. I'm pretty sure of it. Oh, no doubt about that. The question is, does he want us as a son or as a sacrifice? Makes me wonder if we saw him in dream land or if that was just our subconscious.
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I hate when our great thread debates start to get taken personally  Arguing is fun, don't ruin fun.
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HiHo ChiRho posted:Oh, no doubt about that. The question is, does he want us as a son or as a sacrifice? We did. He ate our arm and then called us ungrateful about it.
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I kinda doubt that a hunger game would have gotten us Denziroh-style antics, honestly. It might have done if we'd picked a divine being early on, but we chose to be mortal instead. That means we have both mortal limitations and a mortal viewpoint - and that means eventually, we would have been eating people and watching them scream and beg for mercy as they are devoured. Lavishly described, no doubt. Diog hasn't pulled punches on the effects of our actions on our current path - would he have done any less if we had chosen to willingly eat people? If we chose not to try and eat people on the other hand...then, I think, we would have seen the other side of Asherah. To many, Asherah represents freedom - a sense of escape from the confines of El, of liberation from control. But Asherah is most likely a prison of its own, with perhaps fewer laws to enforce, but enforced no less strictly, if not indeed more so. Remember how insistent Shushem was on our learning exactly the right things to placate Asherah? Failing to follow each and every one of those strictures, no matter how unpleasant, is probably not going to end with Asherah clucking at us and telling us not to do it again and to listen to him next time. Denziroh was above control, but Enkidel is not, by simple virtue of being human in a world of divine beings. I don't think who we chose to worship would have made much difference in whether or not we were controlled by others. Tomn fucked around with this message at 18:08 on May 21, 2014 |
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the_steve posted:1. F - support Tudiya. "She needs a mother, and Jalitha knows the ways of Athar. She will be able to help Ruth adjust to Zepathan life more easily." Voting This. Danal can still watch over Ruth from their home as well. Awesome update, I didn't see fishdad coming back at all.
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I bet Labaras can strain a whole pot of soup in one go. If we get that powerful, I bet we could make a killing cleaning pools. Then we can spend a week r two debating various low yield investment options. Awesome.
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Arkanomen posted:Honest question for team hunger, if we switch teams and start praising Asherah, what makes you think we will survive it? Team Hunger is all about eternal hunger, and not our hunger. There is only one destiny for team Asherah and that is to be eaten. Sure, we might get a huge boost in power and some cool stuff upfront but after eating our 50th village will it be fun anymore? When we have to eat everyone we know just to avoid being eaten ourselves, will it still be fun then? When we devolve into nothing more than a soulless monster will we be happy we traded away a life full of friends and family for power we could have achieved on our own, will it be fun then? I don't know what team hunger expects, it was made pretty clear to us that we are just another tasty morsel to a being infinitely our greater. If you think well be able to devour the great devourer than you are delusional at best. Choosing Asherah is suicide, plain and simple. Wooah, settle down there bessy. It's not going to win Man, I love the fact that there's enough Asherah left in us that, on hearing our previous 'father' is still alive, there's a real chunk of our subconscious that uncontrollably starts dreaming about returning to the ocean and the elemental life of Athar. Hell, I'm almost up for plan Fishdad, if we took a little more time to work it out. If we could manage it, I'd kinda love to have Enkindel travel the world, trying to learn the approaches and secrets of each culture. We've got a good grasp on how poo poo works in the Orthodoxy of El, even if its major secrets have been hidden behind breathing and soup. We could start learning hardcore from Indor next for a year (we find an excuse to postpone the Baitel trip, then we off in the night just before it comes due). Next we travel back to Athar, use our obvious glory to convince them we'd be of benefit to Asherah, and we learn the ways of lightning and external-blood-magic. Eventually we fly off on the back of a summoned space-manta-ray, and head to Kadmonim lands, to learn their secrets. In the end we become the largest player on the planet, as an unaffiliated party. We lead not only the men of El against the oncoming storm, but ALL men of of ALL nations. At this point we've an 'in' with every major group, as we've studied with them all. They may be pissed at our leaving, but in the face of the oncoming catastrophe, they'll have to relent in their anger and admit we're the biggest, buffest and most learned person living. Truly the new Labaras, not just an arm of the El Orthodoxy, but a Philosopher King, versed in all the knowledge of men and gods, and ready to lead the world into a new age of enlightenment and rocking fish-viking lazer shows.
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Lanky Coconut Tree posted:We should get a list of things to check on in Zepath going. Shamelessly quoting my own post because gently caress your silly cockfight. Vote to get important minor stuff done. Like training Snarls to be a killing machine.
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Lanky Coconut Tree posted:Shamelessly quoting my own post because gently caress your silly cockfight. I'm up for this. I'd still like to invest in lands and herds, even if I expect time is probably getting short. Hard to farm and store food if there are enemies at the gates, obviously.
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Theglavwen posted:Hell, I'm almost up for plan Fishdad, if we took a little more time to work it out. If we could manage it, I'd kinda love to have Enkindel travel the world, trying to learn the approaches and secrets of each culture. We've got a good grasp on how poo poo works in the Orthodoxy of El, even if its major secrets have been hidden behind breathing and soup. We could start learning hardcore from Indor next for a year (we find an excuse to postpone the Baitel trip, then we off in the night just before it comes due). Next we travel back to Athar, use our obvious glory to convince them we'd be of benefit to Asherah, and we learn the ways of lightning and external-blood-magic. Eventually we fly off on the back of a summoned space-manta-ray, and head to Kadmonim lands, to learn their secrets. This plan is beautiful.
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Theglavwen posted:Wooah, settle down there bessy. It's not going to win We are going to live for a long, long time. I want to do this. I don't feel complete without knowing everything about this world and Diog made it clear if we die we don't get a debriefing. It's gonna drive me nuts if we never find -everything- out. Diog is there a Melachim of knowledge and the pursuit of all knowledge because I think we are just going to start splitting up into Team [Favored Melachim] I think that's a lot better than Team Boring or Team Fishdad or whatever. It's also thematic. 
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Arkanomen posted:Honest question for team hunger, if we switch teams and start praising Asherah, what makes you think we will survive it? Team Hunger is all about eternal hunger, and not our hunger. There is only one destiny for team Asherah and that is to be eaten. Sure, we might get a huge boost in power and some cool stuff upfront but after eating our 50th village will it be fun anymore? When we have to eat everyone we know just to avoid being eaten ourselves, will it still be fun then? When we devolve into nothing more than a soulless monster will we be happy we traded away a life full of friends and family for power we could have achieved on our own, will it be fun then? I don't know what team hunger expects, it was made pretty clear to us that we are just another tasty morsel to a being infinitely our greater. If you think well be able to devour the great devourer than you are delusional at best. Choosing Asherah is suicide, plain and simple. The plan isn't to eat for Asherah until she eats us. We will eat, and Eat and EAt and EAT AND EAT AND EAT AND EAT until we are so full of ??? and OMNOMNOM that we will EAT ASHERAH AND BECOME ASHERAH AND EAT THE WORLD AND THE UNIVERSE AND quote:Clearly the endgame for Plan Fishdad is to eat Asherah.
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1. What do you tell them should be done with Ruth? E. You will claim her yourself, Naomi will care for her. You will adopt her as your own child. Cool black chick sidekick coming up in about 10 years. 2. Do you tell Tudiya that Shushem is alive, now and ask Danal for an explanation on why he skipped over it with Tudiya? J. Yes. I bring up the issue now. This is important.
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Razakai posted:Team El is for playing the long game, and a few updates of soupstraining is worth being able to eventually be above all these mysterious assholes telling us to do/not do things. If enough 'Team El' posters think this way for Ishamal to get a bead on these thoughts he'd probably kill us instantly. Is a promise of more personal power the only thing that can win your loyalty? How about saving our dumb rear end from ourselves and saving our lives multiple times? And El & the Melachim seem to be an unambiguous force of good for mankind. All the parts of El society we don't like (slavery, women as chattel) seem to be more cultural artifacts (subject to gradual change) than central to the religion.
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