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Mr E posted:I've made it up to FF7 while playing all the FFs. Should I bother getting Aeris' last Limit? I figure I can just use Enemy Skill and the materia cave to get the kills, but I don't know if it's worth getting it or if it's just an extra goal to have before the end of disk 1. Unless you're a completionist there is absolutely no reason to get it. There are no enemies worth using it on before you lose the character.
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Mr E posted:I've made it up to FF7 while playing all the FFs. Should I bother getting Aeris' last Limit? I figure I can just use Enemy Skill and the materia cave to get the kills, but I don't know if it's worth getting it or if it's just an extra goal to have before the end of disk 1. There's no real point to it unless you want to be able to say 'why yes I did do this entirely arbitrary thing.' And who doesn't? Go for it!
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May 26, 2014 06:52
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I feel sorry for the guy who first played VII and didn't realize that Aeris would die, and grinded her last limit break.
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May 26, 2014 07:15
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Terper posted:No reason to get offa this train we're on. Yeah, the Castrum track is great. Sounds kind of Mass Effect-y? It's really funny, if you had told me last year that FF14 was going to be the
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Motto posted:I think I'll put my faith in the exclusive information procured by the good folks at EpicStream dot com. Honestly March 2015 seems early to me. Maybe they'll show something at E3 but I had the impression the game is barely progressing. Also I have a PS3 account of FF14 I haven't redeemed yet (It was on sale for really cheap) and I'm waiting to get a PS4 so I can remote play to the Vita for the free month. Vita MMOS!
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Honestly March 2015 seems early to me. Maybe they'll show something at E3 but I had the impression the game is barely progressing. The free upgrade offer elapses around December, so if you haven't redeemed it by then, you should probably do so. You need to install the PS3 version to redeem it, but you don't need to patch it. After that you can go to the Mogstation and upgrade to PS4 without needing a PS4 at all.
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ImpAtom posted:It's kosher. Heck, LPs regularly post links to game songs. The last time I regularly posted in games there was a giant VGM sharing thread but that was like 2005 so idk  THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Most composers don't really work for a company fulltime these days it seems like. Makes way more sense to freelance the work out to a guy rather than pay him a yearly salary when he's probably not working year round. Yeah, all the "big name" composers have since gone freelance and founded their own production studios. Mitsuda with Procyon, Uematsu with Dog Ear, Hamauzu with Monomusik, Sakuraba with Misty Inn, Sakimoto with Basiscape, Ito with ??? (I know he went freelance, but I can't recall if he formed his own studio). Anyways I got a good-enough-for-me-OK from a mod so here is some vidja game music Earthbound Papas - Octave Theory Earthbound Papas - Dancing Dad
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BloodWulfe posted:The last time I regularly posted in games there was a giant VGM sharing thread but that was like 2005 so idk Awesome! Thanks for both of these. These days usually when people discuss music of any kind on the internet they always link an accompanying Youtube just because it's nice to get instant feedback on if you'd like something or not. Music threads are basically just a giant wall of youtubes and none of them are usually officially sanctioned so I don't think anyone really cares about music rights anymore 
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:These days usually when people discuss music of any kind on the internet they always link an accompanying Youtube just because it's nice to get instant feedback on if you'd like something or not.
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The White Dragon posted:The problem with Dancing Dad, of course, is that searching it on Youtube will get maybe one relevant hit and everything else will be "my dad dancing like a dumb rear end" Yeah I could barely find any of it, it really didn't catch on like Black Mages did.
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BloodWulfe posted:The last time I regularly posted in games there was a giant VGM sharing thread but that was like 2005 so idk Seeing froM "Hyper Dimension Neptunia V" in there made me oddly depressed.
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Just left midgar in 7. Anything important I need to know ?
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Facepalm Ranger posted:Just left midgar in 7. Anything important I need to know ? You're coming up to the first place you can recruit the first optional character relatively soon. (Well, relatively soon after the long-rear end flashback you're coming up on.) Once you leave Mythril Mines hang out in forests a bit and you'll probably find Yuffie. Don't save after fighting her, don't fall for her bullshit and she'll join.
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May 26, 2014 13:22
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ImpAtom posted:Unless you're a completionist there is absolutely no reason to get it. There are no enemies worth using it on before you lose the character. Demon Wall is annoying but for the grinding to get it hes a pushover at that point 
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Facepalm Ranger posted:Just left midgar in 7. Anything important I need to know ? Talk to the chocobos in the ranch after Kalm and watch 'em dance for a goodie. Also brace yourself for one of the longest background exposition scenes in gaming. It's actually pretty interesting but after you see it once it's pretty painful on subsequent playthroughs. E: Also IIRC one of the enemies just outside of Midgar teach you an Enemy Skill. Kanfy fucked around with this message at 13:31 on May 26, 2014 |
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Kanfy posted:Talk to the chocobos in the ranch after Kalm and watch 'em dance for a goodie. Uh-huh, MGS4 says 'Hi'.
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Flytrap posted:Uh-huh, MGS4 says 'Hi'. And I said "one of the longest".
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Yeah I could barely find any of it, it really didn't catch on like Black Mages did. I guess there's a limit to how many times people are interested in hearing Uematsu throw some electric guitar on the same songs he made 20 years ago
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May 26, 2014 13:33
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Attitude Indicator posted:I guess there's a limit to how many times people are interested in hearing Uematsu throw some electric guitar on the same songs he made 20 years ago Luckily FF only exists to milk old games at this point so the games themselves will just have remixes or old songs, like Gilgamesh in FF12 and FF14, rearrangements for the entire OST like all of Dissidia, or gently caress IT let's just make the songs themselves into a standalone game at this point
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I don't really think 'a character who has been established as a running gag since FF5' reappearing in 12 and 14 is a good example of rehashing.
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Endorph posted:I don't really think 'a character who has been established as a running gag since FF5' reappearing in 12 and 14 is a good example of rehashing. I actually liked it a lot but it says something about the modern games that they basically have to refer to the old games constantly
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May 26, 2014 14:59
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I actually liked it a lot but it says something about the modern games that they basically have to refer to the old games constantly He's been a running gag since FF6, unless you consider that a modern game I don't think it really supports what you're saying. Hell, they've been remixing previous songs forever too so I don't really think you mentioned anything that comes across as rehashing yet.
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I actually liked it a lot but it says something about the modern games that they basically have to refer to the old games constantly
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YoshiP stated that he was going to make ARR have a lot more traditional iconic elements from the old Final Fantasy games to help people feel more immersed in the game or something. That's why you end up trotting around in Magitek Armour and why Crystal Tower is FF3 influenced and such. The lines between fan service and rehashing tend to be sort of thin.
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I wouldn't call any of that rehashing though. Rehashing implies a lack of effort. Somebody had to design the magitek armor and Crystal Tower and the Gilgamesh fight from the ground up. Rehashing is a million sloppy ports of FF4.Terper posted:The important thing is, ARR still manages to be its own thing while still having tons of references and being Final Fantasy as gently caress. Also this.
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The important thing is, ARR still manages to be its own thing while still having tons of references and being Final Fantasy as gently caress.
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Yeah like it took until the last boss of CT that I realized this entire dungeon is one giant FF3 JP homage. That takes a certain level of talent honestly.Don Gato posted:I feel sorry for the guy who first played VII and didn't realize that Aeris would die, and grinded her last limit break. What's up
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Rei_ posted:Yeah like it took until the last boss of CT that I realized this entire dungeon is one giant FF3 JP homage. That takes a certain level of talent honestly. Really? I realized it as soon as you took the fangs to destroy the statues. Maybe it's just because I love the game being referenced? 
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forbidden lesbian posted:He's been a running gag since FF6, unless you consider that a modern game I don't think it really supports what you're saying. Except he wasn't? He was only around as a boss and Esper in the remake.
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As someone who did this (got Aeris' final limit break) recently, it's really not that bad of a grind in the grand scheme of Final Fantasy grinds. Hell it's not even the worst grind in the game depending on how much you want to complete.
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TheKingofSprings posted:Except he wasn't? He was only around as a boss and Esper in the remake. ...Do you not understand what a running gag is? Maybe if I said he's been a reoccurring reference since FF6, would that help?
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Oh wait, I understand now, he wasn't in the original FF6. I got you now, that does damage my point a little. What was the first game to bring him back then?
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forbidden lesbian posted:Oh wait, I understand now, he wasn't in the original FF6. I got you now, that does damage my point a little. What was the first game to bring him back then? FF8, I believe? I can't remember if he was in FF7 anywhere.
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FF8, yeah. He was in FF9 too, though not in his usual form.
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I don't remember him being in X or X-2 either, it does feel like it was more recently that they started consistently putting Gilgamesh in remakes and optional bossfights and the like. But yeah one thing S-E's never stopped being decent at is keeping references to past games from becoming too obnoxious. You'll get your Cids or your Biggs/Wedges in the main story but the game won't nudge your shoulder and go 'hey here's something only us TRUE FF fans will understand wink wink'.
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Endorph posted:I don't really think 'a character who has been established as a running gag since FF5' reappearing in 12 and 14 is a good example of rehashing. He was in XIII-2 as well (DLC).
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Kalenn Istarion posted:He was in XIII-2 as well (DLC). Notable in this version because he replaces his swords with machine guns.
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Isn't it hinted in Dissidia 2 that he's basically the same guy through the entire series, he just stumbling through the Void or some weird poo poo like that?
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TARDISman posted:Isn't it hinted in Dissidia 2 that he's basically the same guy through the entire series, he just stumbling through the Void or some weird poo poo like that?
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BottledBodhisvata posted:Notable in this version because he replaces his swords with machine guns. Well, he does at first but after a brief fight where he has barely 1/10th of his normal HP, he decides they're lame, ditches them, switches to his normal weapon set and turns into a real pain in the rear end.
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