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Khablam
Mar 29, 2012

Cbear posted:

They just hot fixed it. It was working for a few hours.

And if they ban people I will 100% be banned for it.

By this he means "I went from a newly minted TH9 to a 2/3 maxed TH10"

Goddamn.

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MY PALE GOTH SKIN
Nov 28, 2006


meow
Okay now I'm really pissed I missed it.

Hesh Ballantine
Feb 13, 2012
Okay I don't think I'm doing this right, I'm at TH5 and as per the OP haven't even bothered with walls because I'll "only be there a few days" but I think it's going to take longer than that, seems like I'm getting my poo poo pushed in a couple times a day and getting set back to the tune of 40-50k each time, it's going to take a long time to get to 750k this way to get TH6.

I don't know how to take a screenshot with my tablet and put it up here but I guess if you're in Goon Tang Clan you can just go look at my base?

Cbear
Mar 22, 2005

Khablam posted:

By this he means "I went from a newly minted TH9 to a 2/3 maxed TH10"

Goddamn.

Not 2/3rd th10. More so I just skipped th9 completely.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Hesh Ballantine posted:

Okay I don't think I'm doing this right, I'm at TH5 and as per the OP haven't even bothered with walls because I'll "only be there a few days" but I think it's going to take longer than that, seems like I'm getting my poo poo pushed in a couple times a day and getting set back to the tune of 40-50k each time, it's going to take a long time to get to 750k this way to get TH6.

I don't know how to take a screenshot with my tablet and put it up here but I guess if you're in Goon Tang Clan you can just go look at my base?

Haven't seen your base, but based on your description you took 'do whatever' a little too literally. Centralize your defenses and put walls around them, it's just the details that won't matter. Put your TH in an unguarded corner of the map for extra protection.

That said, even the lack of walls shouldn't make too much of a difference. Stay active for a few raids and spend down the gold, you'll be hit for not much loot and a shield not long after.

MY PALE GOTH SKIN
Nov 28, 2006


meow

Cbear posted:

Not 2/3rd th10. More so I just skipped th9 completely.

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck yooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooou

Hesh, if you're still getting completely overrun and drained even after doing all of those things, you might consider dropping trophies.


Walls are uh, they're kind of important. They slow the enemy down while your defenses kill them.

Hesh Ballantine
Feb 13, 2012
Well, I must be doing it at least partly right, I'd say 2 out of 3 attacks are repelled by my defenders. The one swho drain me are basically just doing smash and grabs with a boatload of gobbos. I guess I'll just make a square around everything except the army yards?

Also, why put the TH in an unprotected corner, just to draw all the enemy troops?

Spacely
Mar 21, 2007

Hesh Ballantine posted:

Well, I must be doing it at least partly right, I'd say 2 out of 3 attacks are repelled by my defenders. The one swho drain me are basically just doing smash and grabs with a boatload of gobbos. I guess I'll just make a square around everything except the army yards?

Also, why put the TH in an unprotected corner, just to draw all the enemy troops?

You put your TH outside your base so that someone will come along and use a few troops kill it. They get a few trophies for free and you get a free shield without losing resources.

Toozler
Jan 12, 2012

Cbear posted:

Not 2/3rd th10. More so I just skipped th9 completely.

Haha, all lego walls and 2 level 30 heroes, no big deal. Nicely done.

ixo
Sep 8, 2004

m'bloaty

Fun Shoe

Hesh Ballantine posted:

Okay I don't think I'm doing this right, I'm at TH5 and as per the OP haven't even bothered with walls because I'll "only be there a few days" but I think it's going to take longer than that, seems like I'm getting my poo poo pushed in a couple times a day and getting set back to the tune of 40-50k each time, it's going to take a long time to get to 750k this way to get TH6.

I don't know how to take a screenshot with my tablet and put it up here but I guess if you're in Goon Tang Clan you can just go look at my base?


Yeah all I meant by that was not to bother with some super meticulous thoroughly researched layout. You should still build walls and work on upgrading them, but you will get your poo poo pushed in regardless of what you do. Your best defenses are going to be the aforementioned exposed TH, and trying to keep a low balance by spending as much as possible.

If you want some base guidance anyway, try this on for size:

http://clashofclansbuilder.com/plan/124774

tophet
Oct 28, 2003

Young Orc
Cbear I am extremely jealous of your walls.

Cbear
Mar 22, 2005

tophet posted:

Cbear I am extremely jealous of your walls.

Why thank you. I actually didn't get around to doing too many of them. That's when the hotfix came in. Probably did 50 or so level 9's.

tophet
Oct 28, 2003

Young Orc
From where I'm sitting 50 or so million gold for walls is pretty ok

Gangringo
Jul 22, 2007

In the first age, in the first battle, when the shadows first lengthened, one sat.

He chose the path of perpetual contentment.

Forget the walls. Those heroes!

Cbear
Mar 22, 2005

Gangringo posted:

Forget the walls. Those heroes!

I read that in your avatar's voice. Perfect.

Yeah. Like I was saying to people in guild. If I would have known when it ended I would have went to th10 and got them to 40.

RVT
Nov 5, 2003
With all the clan mails I get, I wish that had been one of them.

Not that I would have checked it in time to take advantage.

MY PALE GOTH SKIN
Nov 28, 2006


meow
Okay, I'm extremely undecided as to what I should focus on next, so I'm asking for thread help/opinions/experience.

I'm just gonna post all of it as it is now, except collectors. Sorry in advance. This is where everything is, not the level I'd be upgrading to.

TH8 for about three weeks. Have all the walls, over half are purple. I was upgrading those so no one could get my gold, but I realized I need to stop and up my defenses. I have all the buildings you can have at TH8 except for the second dark barracks.



Troops

Level 5 = wizards, archers in 2 days
Level 4 = barbs, gobs, WBs, giants
Level 3 = balloons
Level 2 = healer, dragon
Level 1 = minions, hogs, spinny axe ladies

Spells
Level 3 = heal, rage
Level 2 = lightening, hate this spell and not worried about it

Offense
All camps = level 6
One dark barracks = level 3
4 Barracks, 2 at level seven, one at level 8, one at level 9
Spell Factory = level 3
Lab = level 6, not really worried about this yet)

Defense
All archers = level 8
All mortars = level 5, can't improve at this TH level which suuuucks
All cannons = level 9
All air defense = level 4, basically never wrecked by air units so not worried about these
2 wizard towers = level 4
1 wizard tower = level 5 in a few days
All hidden teslas = level 2

Miscellaneous
Barb king = level 3
All giant bombs = level 2
All tiny bombs = level 4
CC = level 4
All regular air mines = level 3
All seeking air mines = level 1
DE storage = level 2, holds 20K

I hosed up by playing my own dumb way until a few months ago, and made some dumb mistakes, including not leveling my troops because I thought I would stop using them and be using higher level troops instead. I'm trying to always have something researching, but after the archers, I'm not sure if I should save for PEKKA, upgrade giants/balloons/something else, save for the spell factory, upgrade the DE tank and then upgrade the Spinny Axe Ladies, what. Also, obviously want to get my defenses higher, sooner, not to level THs, but just so I can move up a bit in the rankings for farming and hopefully find better targets.

Okay, I appreciate all advice/experience/being told I'm dumb as hell in advance.

MY PALE GOTH SKIN fucked around with this message at 06:15 on Jun 2, 2014

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

oval office raja posted:

Okay, I'm extremely undecided as to what I should focus on next, so I'm asking for thread help/opinions/experience.
PEKKAs kinda suck, so don't worry about them too much. If you want to spend purple on barracks use it making more dragon barracks. Spiiny ladies suck even more, the DE you spend making or researching them could be spent on hogs. Hogs are amazing. You can't save for the spell factory because you need a TH9 to level it to 4. Honestly I would make your next research Barbs because Barching is just so lucrative at your level. After that, do whatever your try-hard army for wars is. Dragons maybe? Lightning isn't as useless as you think either. I think at least half of my DE comes from using lightning spells to snipe ripe DE storages.

MY PALE GOTH SKIN
Nov 28, 2006


meow

Kung Food posted:

PEKKAs kinda suck, so don't worry about them too much. If you want to spend purple on barracks use it making more dragon barracks. Spiiny ladies suck even more, the DE you spend making or researching them could be spent on hogs. Hogs are amazing. You can't save for the spell factory because you need a TH9 to level it to 4. Honestly I would make your next research Barbs because Barching is just so lucrative at your level. After that, do whatever your try-hard army for wars is. Dragons maybe? Lightning isn't as useless as you think either. I think at least half of my DE comes from using lightning spells to snipe ripe DE storages.

I was wondering if unleveled PEKKAs sucked, thank you. Dragons honestly seem to cost too much for what they do, but I might not have resilient enough barbs/archers/giants to take out the AD in time for the dragons to be effective. The times I've tried, it failed pretty hard, with my troops basically skipping the AD. Guess I need to try it more, possibly after I upgrade barbs and maybe giants.

I already love the hogs, I think I'm gonna start saving/raiding for DE so I can level them relatively soon. Derp as far as the spell factory. It seems kinda ridiculous that the mortars and SF can't be upgraded more at 8. Anyway, I'll start saving for barbs and hogs both, and upgrade them as I get the resources.

I just hate having the lightening take up one of three spots just in case I see a fullish DE tank, usually the fullish DE tanks also have a lot of other loot, and I can get most, if not all of it. I guess I should go ahead and level it sooner or later since I'll eventually be going for Crystal, and getting bases with tons more DE

Thank you. And let this be a warning to newbs, seek out and listen to advice, or you'll end up six months down the line with a big drat disadvantage because you didn't.

jaete
Jun 21, 2009


Nap Ghost

oval office raja posted:

All mortars = level 5, can't improve at this TH level which suuuucks

Max mortar level at TH8 is actually 6.

I'd say don't worry about PEKKAs or level 10 barracks for now, instead upgrade all the troops all the time, starting with the one you're using (or should be using) most, which is barb/arch/gob/wb. For defence you might want to upgrade wizard towers early on to defend against other players' goblin raids. Wizard towers can be upgraded twice at TH8 and they're a bit expensive but worth it.

If you have the elixir, kicking some butt in clan wars is helpful for a little resource boost; and the resources in the clan castle are much safer than the stuff in your normal containers, so it's a little bit easier to save up for a big upgrade. Other use for extra elixir is to upgrade the DE pump (would do this later).

I'd say it's most important to make sure your troops are always upgrading. Meanwhile you can farm for gold or DE, with gold being more important and also easier to get.

When you do get dark elixir, I'd go for Barb King to level 5 first, to get the ability; you'll get lots of use out of that. After that upgrade hogs and/or minions, depending on which you use. Both minions and hogs become awesome at around level 3 or 4.

As was said valkyries suck, just ignore them. Golems are useful later on (even at level 1) but not really essential now.

Edit: I did the math recently (checked the resource costs on [url=http://clashofclans.wikia.com/wiki/Clash_of_Clans_Wiki]) and for a fresh TH8 the total upgrade costs, assuming your TH7 base was fully complete, are roughly as follows:

All elixir: 2x
All defences except walls: 3x
All walls: 4x

Where x is 30 million. Yeah, that's a big number and will take a while. (Elixir costs include the less essential stuff such as all level 10 barracks and level 3 PEKKAs.)

The takeaway is: once you no longer need the elixir, you can then start making more expensive armies, which make raiding for gold and DE much more fun. Also clan wars. At TH8 you'll have a choice of GoWiPe, balloon/minion, dragons and stuff, hogs, etc in addition to the lower level stuff.

This is how the game works at each TH level - get elixir, upgrade troops and camps, when that's done go wild. It's pretty fun.

jaete fucked around with this message at 09:14 on Jun 2, 2014

RVT
Nov 5, 2003
The part of the game where you're done with elixir upgrades for your TH level is definitely the best part of the game.

MY PALE GOTH SKIN
Nov 28, 2006


meow

jaete posted:

Max mortar level at TH8 is actually 6.

I'd say don't worry about PEKKAs or level 10 barracks for now, instead upgrade all the troops all the time, starting with the one you're using (or should be using) most, which is barb/arch/gob/wb. For defence you might want to upgrade wizard towers early on to defend against other players' goblin raids. Wizard towers can be upgraded twice at TH8 and they're a bit expensive but worth it.

If you have the elixir, kicking some butt in clan wars is helpful for a little resource boost; and the resources in the clan castle are much safer than the stuff in your normal containers, so it's a little bit easier to save up for a big upgrade. Other use for extra elixir is to upgrade the DE pump (would do this later).

I'd say it's most important to make sure your troops are always upgrading. Meanwhile you can farm for gold or DE, with gold being more important and also easier to get.

When you do get dark elixir, I'd go for Barb King to level 5 first, to get the ability; you'll get lots of use out of that. After that upgrade hogs and/or minions, depending on which you use. Both minions and hogs become awesome at around level 3 or 4.

As was said valkyries suck, just ignore them. Golems are useful later on (even at level 1) but not really essential now.

Edit: I did the math recently (checked the resource costs on [url=http://clashofclans.wikia.com/wiki/Clash_of_Clans_Wiki]) and for a fresh TH8 the total upgrade costs, assuming your TH7 base was fully complete, are roughly as follows:

All elixir: 2x
All defences except walls: 3x
All walls: 4x

Where x is 30 million. Yeah, that's a big number and will take a while. (Elixir costs include the less essential stuff such as all level 10 barracks and level 3 PEKKAs.)

The takeaway is: once you no longer need the elixir, you can then start making more expensive armies, which make raiding for gold and DE much more fun. Also clan wars. At TH8 you'll have a choice of GoWiPe, balloon/minion, dragons and stuff, hogs, etc in addition to the lower level stuff.

This is how the game works at each TH level - get elixir, upgrade troops and camps, when that's done go wild. It's pretty fun.

My mortars are level six then, I must have typoed. I freaking love mortars and wish I could have six. I'll definitely be doing the barb king soon, forgot about the abilities at level 5. Everything else you said, I'm already planning on doing, glad I'm not completely stupid when it comes to this game. I hosed myself over so much by not upgrading troops more as I went along.

Ugh I wish it didn't take so long, i want to have Eye of Sauron towers and machinecrowwbows and the archery queen and everything.

Why do the Valkaries suck, exactly? I've used a few and they seem to take and deal a lot of damage. I know they take up a dumb amount of slots, but they seem useful in small numbers, especially once upgraded. Is it just that the slots can be better filled with more DPS overall?

I will probably do a little celebratory dance when I'm done with TH upgrades. I hate them. I started playing another, similar game, and I hate them in that game too.

I appreciate the advice so far, you guys, thank you.

Cbear
Mar 22, 2005
Everyone is pretty spot on it terms of advice. My advice would be to ALWAYS have something cooking in your lab. Its basically a builder working on a building that has 10 upgrades to do. Keep that going at all times.

Also, I can't recommend barching enough at TH8-TH9. The loot is great in gold and people have terrible bases there.

JUST MAKING CHILI
Feb 14, 2008
I just finished TH8 during the last showmeyourpekka clan war and need a new clan war base design, what should I be using?

nephyx
Jun 20, 2006

"Purges"
-Adolf Twerkel

The Mandingo posted:

I just finished TH8 during the last showmeyourpekka clan war and need a new clan war base design, what should I be using?

Im using "the ball" layout for war at th8. Very effective so far.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_q43YP-bD_0&feature=kp

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord

nephyx posted:

Im using "the ball" layout for war at th8. Very effective so far.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_q43YP-bD_0&feature=kp

That base wouldn't survive hogs or dragons, and its clan castle is easily lured.

Secret Sweater
Oct 17, 2005
dup
Let be honest here. There is no way to deal with level 3+ hogs as a TH8 unless they mess up on luring your CC or are retarded.

waffles beyond waffles
Jun 22, 2008

Oh, what a day...
What a lovely day!
This is my TH3 base so far.



I've had a few defensive victories, which is neat. One was legit, and a few more where they deployed a couple barbs and gave up.

I finally got enough elixir to start training, and went with Archers first. Slowly upgrading my walls.

I've run into a clan castle a couple times when attacking, where the barbs rush out to defend. How does this work? I assume I have to join a clan after repairing it, but I don't think I'd want to use up a spot in a goon clan at my low level. Should I dump the gold into it and get it going?

ixo
Sep 8, 2004

m'bloaty

Fun Shoe
You should stop worrying and join a goon clan regardless of TH level :)

Once you're in a clan, you'll tap the request button and people will give you whatever troops they want. They'll pop out to defend your poo poo, or you can deploy them with your attacking troops.

Secret Sweater
Oct 17, 2005
dup

gromdul posted:

This is my TH3 base so far.
Bro, you're probably gonna wanna get a CBA from finance before you go ham with the gems on the collectors.

MY PALE GOTH SKIN
Nov 28, 2006


meow

Cbear posted:

Everyone is pretty spot on it terms of advice. My advice would be to ALWAYS have something cooking in your lab. Its basically a builder working on a building that has 10 upgrades to do. Keep that going at all times.

Also, I can't recommend barching enough at TH8-TH9. The loot is great in gold and people have terrible bases there.

I'm trying to learn how to barch properly. i'm kinda hosed right now with my barbs still being 4, right now my strongest troop is lvl 5 wizards, which are OK but expensive. It wasn't until I joined a goonclan and started reading this thread that I realized I was throwing away a lot of elixir on troops, so.. I'm trying to stop. I cannot emphasis enough how bad I hosed myself by not upgrading troops earlier.

gromdul posted:

This is my TH3 base so far.



I've had a few defensive victories, which is neat. One was legit, and a few more where they deployed a couple barbs and gave up.

I finally got enough elixir to start training, and went with Archers first. Slowly upgrading my walls.

I've run into a clan castle a couple times when attacking, where the barbs rush out to defend. How does this work? I assume I have to join a clan after repairing it, but I don't think I'd want to use up a spot in a goon clan at my low level. Should I dump the gold into it and get it going?

MAKE SURE YOU UPGRADE YOUR TROOPS ALL THE TIME AS SOON AS POSSIBLE

Also, if you use those gems to speed up your training camps, you can rake in a shitload more than you'll get by having low-level collectors gemmed. Just pump out armies and use them to snype resources (still go ahead and overrun bases when you can and there's a profit, it's just quicker to snype).

waffles beyond waffles
Jun 22, 2008

Oh, what a day...
What a lovely day!
I was just experimenting with the gems. Its only 2 gems per collector for a day.

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord

Secret Sweater posted:

Let be honest here. There is no way to deal with level 3+ hogs as a TH8 unless they mess up on luring your CC or are retarded.

I disagree, you can certainly deal with hogs with 2x L3 giant bombs and intelligent use of spring traps. With a properly designed base you can certainly mitigate the damage they do. I'm not saying you will defend everytime, but if you limit their gains to 1 star you are actively contributing to your clans success as much as attacking. There are even unlurable th8 bases that will pose a serious challenge to novice hog users.

waffles beyond waffles
Jun 22, 2008

Oh, what a day...
What a lovely day!
I found a juicy target and crushed him for 20k gold and elixir. Plenty of gold to unlock my clan castle! So who had some room for a noobish goon?

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice
My game has been running stupidly slow, terrible framerate and like no responsiveness, ever since upgrading to TH6. What gives? I have a brand new Iphone 5s for christ's sake

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


I also managed to recently rebuild my clan castle. Looking for a clan; only the chillest need apply.

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



Looks like there are 2 spots open in DoUEvenLiftBro? Make sure you get the caps right, since there are pubbie imitators. Our tagline/whatever is "Never not lift."

waffles beyond waffles
Jun 22, 2008

Oh, what a day...
What a lovely day!

Icon Of Sin posted:

Looks like there are 2 spots open in DoUEvenLiftBro? Make sure you get the caps right, since there are pubbie imitators. Our tagline/whatever is "Never not lift."

Applied as gromdul, and noted my SA status.

Tim Jong-un
Aug 22, 2008

:shepface:God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title:shepface:

My brother was on for the gem bug and took his base from mid TH7 to entirely maxed troops and base TH 9, he was about to set his TH going to 10 when they ran out and stopped refilling. I was very jealous.

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Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice

Stereotype posted:

My game has been running stupidly slow, terrible framerate and like no responsiveness, ever since upgrading to TH6. What gives? I have a brand new Iphone 5s for christ's sake

as a note restarting my phone fixed this

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