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Nothing explains Ansem, Seeker of Darkness though. Why does he look like that? Why the puffed out chest? Is he secretly Gaston?
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:Nothing explains Ansem, Seeker of Darkness though. Why does he look like that? Why the puffed out chest? Is he secretly Gaston? Look, when you're an immortal ghost monster man you got a lot of time to hit the gym.
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Jun 21, 2014 05:32
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Xehanort's Heartless is supposed to be special because he willingly gave himself to the darkness. What annoys me is that Sora doesn't have an equivilent since he also willingly gave himself to the darkness.
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Jun 21, 2014 05:34
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:Nothing explains Ansem, Seeker of Darkness though. Why does he look like that? Why the puffed out chest? Is he secretly Gaston? That's just Billy Zane's true form.
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Jun 21, 2014 05:38
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Fojar38 posted:Xehanort's Heartless is supposed to be special because he willingly gave himself to the darkness. What annoys me is that Sora doesn't have an equivilent since he also willingly gave himself to the darkness. Sora's heart is too pure, so the only thing it could form was a lovely Shadow. I'm pretty sure that's the canon reason.
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Jun 21, 2014 05:46
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Fojar38 posted:Xehanort's Heartless is supposed to be special because he willingly gave himself to the darkness. What annoys me is that Sora doesn't have an equivilent since he also willingly gave himself to the darkness. Not really, he just stabbed and opened his heart up. Not the same and plunging headfirst into the Darkness while screaming about Darkness.
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Jun 21, 2014 05:48
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Infinity Gaia posted:Sora's heart is too pure, so the only thing it could form was a lovely Shadow. I'm pretty sure that's the canon reason. A lovely Shadow and that dark drive form that you get if you Drive Formed too much. Unless you're using the Final Form, in which it will never happen. Is there anything good about that form beyond being slightly faster than normal Sora? You can't even use the 'enter with a Drive Form to a room with a cutscene to see Sora wearing the Form clothes in the cutscene' glitch to make someone talk to a twitchy, dark Sora as if he's normal. toanoradian fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Jun 21, 2014 |
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Jun 21, 2014 06:01
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toanoradian posted:Is there anything good about that form beyond being slightly faster than normal Sora? That is its only benefit.
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Jun 21, 2014 06:40
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toanoradian posted:A lovely Shadow and that dark drive form that you get if you Drive Formed too much. Unless you're using the Final Form, in which it will never happen. It's supposed to be a punishment form for overusing Drive so nope. Fast is about it.
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Jun 21, 2014 06:50
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Riku's body got hijacked by Xehanort and he was mostly fine afterwards. Poor Terra. 
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Jun 21, 2014 07:08
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That is because unlike Terra, Riku isn't a hilarious fuckup 24/7.
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Jun 21, 2014 07:17
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ImpAtom posted:That is because unlike Terra, Riku isn't a hilarious fuckup 24/7. I dunno he was a nonstop fuckup in KH1.
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Jun 21, 2014 07:19
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Fojar38 posted:I dunno he was a nonstop fuckup in KH1. Even in KH1 terms he was never as bad a fuckup as Terra and by 3DS he's the least-fuckup of anyone in the cast.
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Jun 21, 2014 07:23
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I dunno, Terra got mind controlled by Maleficent. Riku straight up decided to work with the rake-thin woman that dressed in black robes and devil horns and magiced up green fire.
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Jun 21, 2014 07:57
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Pureauthor posted:I dunno, Terra got mind controlled by Maleficent. Riku straight up decided to work with the rake-thin woman that dressed in black robes and devil horns and magiced up green fire. Excuse me, I think you'll find that the current Disney canon is that Malificent was actually the hero all along. 
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Jun 21, 2014 08:07
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Who is the most competent KH character? Sora is decently competent but he lost a lot of points in 3D. Eraqus was doing good until he got fragged by Terra the dummy. Xehanort has repeatedly failed and simply has a long string of backup plans. I guess it would be Aqua, whose competence seems to be possible in large part by how disinterested she is in literally everything.
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Jun 21, 2014 09:12
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Scrooge McDuck.
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DrakePegasus posted:Scrooge McDuck. He had one goal and nailed it.
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Sora is himself, Roxas, Xion, Ven, and Vanitas, so even if you ignore the stuff that happens in DDD he'd still probably be worse than Terra. Mostly because of Ven and Vanitas, to be fair to Roxas.
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Jun 21, 2014 09:33
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Riku's also done quite well, he hosed up in KH1 and proceeded to simply deal with the poo poo that piled on him in all the games since.
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ImpAtom posted:That is because unlike Terra, Riku isn't a hilarious fuckup 24/7. I'd say it's more because Mickey and Namine happened to set him straight before things got too bad. That and Sora actually followed Ansem into the Realm of Darkness and defeated him there rather than falling into it alone, like Aqua.
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Jun 21, 2014 10:00
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Considering both Chain of Memories, KH2, and DDD was basically Sora being manipulated into the Organization's plans, I wouldn't exactly call him competent. It just happened to work out in the first two cases before DDD finally rectified that.
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Jun 21, 2014 10:11
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You can't really blame him all that much in the case of Chain of Memories. They pretty much were erasing his memories the whole time. And even then, he was still vehemently against the Organization.
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Jun 21, 2014 10:22
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I can't fault Sora for not wising up in 3D because that game's plot was total nonsense. Going through it I think I understood what was going on less than he did.
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Jun 21, 2014 14:45
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toanoradian posted:Is there anything good about that form beyond being slightly faster than normal Sora? Every single attack counts as a combo finisher so can defeat a boss. That's about it. Any boss where this might be useful will probably instagib you when you can't use reaction commands though.
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Jun 21, 2014 14:54
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Fojar38 posted:Who is the most competent KH character? Goofy
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Jun 21, 2014 15:48
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Wouldn't it be Mickey?
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Jun 21, 2014 16:09
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toanoradian posted:'enter with a Drive Form to a room with a cutscene to see Sora wearing the Form clothes in the cutscene' glitch Why would you think that is a glitch and not intentional?
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Mickey is awesome, but he's not competent. If he was, he either A)would not have completely left his kingdom behind and strolled off alone to fight the great evil or B)would have actually succeeded in beating the great evil without the help of a 15 year old boy. The only thing I can give him is that he knows more about what's going on than the main characters.
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Fojar38 posted:Who is the most competent KH character? Kheldarn posted:Goofy No joke. Every time he gives advice or disagrees with someone, he's right. Goofy knows what's going on.
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Gologle posted:Mickey is awesome, but he's not competent. If he was, he either A)would not have completely left his kingdom behind and strolled off alone to fight the great evil or B)would have actually succeeded in beating the great evil without the help of a 15 year old boy. The only thing I can give him is that he knows more about what's going on than the main characters. Also, he was pretty useless in both of the 3D worlds he was featured in.
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Jun 21, 2014 18:01
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He can't kill bosses in KH2, either.
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Beef Waifu posted:He can't kill bosses in KH2, either. Yeah, but that's pretty clearly a gameplay contrivance.
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Jun 21, 2014 18:28
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It is, but gently caress him.
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Jun 21, 2014 18:30
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Kingdom Hearts 3 will allow you to play as three characters, befitting the title and taking a page off BBS: Sora, representing the original character donut steels, who later dies for our sins and you play as Riku for the rest of the game because the developers all love Riku for some stupid rear end reason; Mickey, representing the Disney side, who now complements his wide array of quick, dodge based attacks and powerful light magic with actual finishing moves; and Galuf, representing the Final Fantasy side, who relies on a heat gauge that builds as he takes and gives damage to unleash brutal, punishing attacks culminating in Berserker Risk, wherein he basically becomes Data Saix.
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I'd be okay with that.
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Gologle posted:Kingdom Hearts 3 will allow you to play as three characters, befitting the title and taking a page off BBS: Sora, representing the original character donut steels, who later dies for our sins and you play as Riku for the rest of the game because the developers all love Riku because he's the best character in the series after Aqua.
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ActionZero posted:Every single attack counts as a combo finisher so can defeat a boss. That's about it. Any boss where this might be useful will probably instagib you when you can't use reaction commands though. Just the opposite, actually. Anti-form cannot kill bosses, though it can rack up nonlethal damage very quickly with its fast attacks. Reaction commands aren't quite THAT important in most fights, but anti-form is also denied use of spells or items, so you can't heal. Hope you're good at dodging!
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It also can't pick up HP Orbs or gain experience points either, just to twist the knife.
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