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| Spurs |
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165 | 32.93% |
| Thunder |
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76 | 15.17% |
| Clippers |
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54 | 10.78% |
| Warriors |
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50 | 9.98% |
| Rockets |
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23 | 4.59% |
| Lakers |
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133 | 26.55% |
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FuzzySkinner posted:Gilbert has been an okay owner for us. He just has never really been able to hire the right "Basketball" people yet, but on the business side? He's been quite good. He's made "The Q" a top flight arena IMO.
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Jun 22, 2014 10:20
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Lebron should dunk on comic sans repeatedly as the Terminator theme plays
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Jun 22, 2014 10:32
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TheFallenEvincar posted:So Dan Gilbert has been an okay basketball franchise owner except for all the stuff involving basketball. Do it LeBron! The baseline has been lowered. Is our owner deeply racist and out of touch? If the answer is no you're not the worst.
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Jun 22, 2014 11:50
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Glamorama26 posted:Lebron should dunk on comic sans repeatedly as the Terminator theme plays
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Jun 22, 2014 14:20
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LeBron will return to Cleveland if it gives him the best shot at a championship. That's it. Most Cavs fans don't think he's coming back, nor do they care (aside from a basic 'hey the Cavs will be loving awesome if LeBron comes back' thought), but people desperate for headlines, bandwagoners, and the kinds of people who comment on articles on the internet go "LEBRON BACK TO CLEVELAND?!?" because they are all worthless. Comic sans was a response to a fanbase being poo poo on that was in the process of being poo poo on by Indians ownership (gently caress the Dolans) and Browns ownership (being the Browns), so it was cool and fun and silly and stupid and it was nice to not be poo poo on for having the gall to exist, and anybody who claims sports are not cool, fun, silly, and unbelievably stupid is lying. Go Kyrie, Blatt, and Randle (I was convinced we were taking Noel #1 last year the moment we won the lottery, and when we won the lottery this time I was convinced we were going to take Wiggins, so with Embiid out of the picture the only option left is to go totally retarded).
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Jun 22, 2014 14:23
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Great White Hope posted:so with Embiid out of the picture the only option left is to go totally retarded). I'm sure the Cavs will not let you down.
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Jun 22, 2014 14:28
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Paul Zuvella posted:I'm sure the Cavs will not let you down. At this point, no matter what I win. Wiggins? Oh hey we drafted the guy I wanted the entire time. Parker? Questionable, but justifiable. Anything else (barring a trade)? I get to laugh at the Cavs being amazingly stupid.
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Jun 22, 2014 14:31
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Great White Hope posted:so it was cool and fun and silly and stupid and it was nice
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Jun 22, 2014 14:33
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Just a quick reminder that Dan Gilbert and the Cavs's organization's response to a 66 win season was trading Ben Wallace's expiring contract, along with money, for Shaquille O'Neal (age 37), then picking up Antawn Jamison (age 33), as part of a master plan to surround LeBron with frontcourt players that couldn't run up and down the court or defend their position. Shaq was the highest paid member of the roster and Jamison was #3. To put that into context, imagine if the Thunder's response to losing in the conference finals this year was to trade Ibaka for a center that plays no defense and/or is going to be hurt for at least half the year, and then followed that up by pulling a sign and trade to pick up a 33 year old Rudy Gay. That's about how dumb those moves were for a team that already had the best player in the league, a strong defensive post presence, and a solid 2nd offensive option in Mo Williams. If they would've just signed a Kyle Korver or Mike Miller to upgrade over Anthony Parker or Wally's ghost, maybe LeBron doesn't make The Decision quite as easily.
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Jun 22, 2014 14:53
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laz0rbeak posted:To put that into context, imagine if the Thunder's response to losing in the conference finals this year was to trade Ibaka for a center that plays no defense and/or is going to be hurt for at least half the year. The Shaq trade was done to get a huge guy to hang over Dwight after the Magic beat the snot out of us (thanks to a lot of things done by not-Dwight players, but still). And really, using the Thunder isn't a good example given that they did something much, much worse in the context of trying to win a title than any move the LeBron-Cavs ever did, aside from maybe the Larry Hughes contract.
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Jun 22, 2014 14:57
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Pairing a laneclogger with a tweener would have kinda worked if Jamison didn't shoot like 10% from the field while he was on the Cavs.
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Jun 22, 2014 15:00
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laz0rbeak posted:Just a quick reminder that Dan Gilbert and the Cavs's organization's response to a 66 win season was trading Ben Wallace's expiring contract, along with money, for Shaquille O'Neal (age 37), then picking up Antawn Jamison (age 33), as part of a master plan to surround LeBron with frontcourt players that couldn't run up and down the court or defend their position. Shaq was the highest paid member of the roster and Jamison was #3. I really enjoy looking at Lebron Cavs on b-ref. They're so badly constructed. http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CLE/2008.html This is a good one http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CLE/2006.html This one is really great too
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Jun 22, 2014 15:05
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Speaking of those old Cavs team, I think the stupidest thing I have read in regards to LeBron is 'Jordan made his teammates better, LeBron does not.' Do these people not remember 'Mo Williams, All Star' (I wish there was an extension to block all comments, because I hate them but like an alcoholic who can't have a beer in his house or he will relapse, as long as they are there I will read them)
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Jun 22, 2014 15:09
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Even if Gilbert had been nice, the Cavs suck and there is no reason to want to go back.
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Jun 22, 2014 15:14
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Also did Michael Jordan really make his teammates better in any real significant quantifiable way that LeBron doesn't Unless we count changing their names, natch
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Jun 22, 2014 15:14
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I wonder if Jamison sticks around next season for the 7 more points he needs to become the 42nd leading scorer of all time? Kobe woulda passed MJ this year if he coulda played more than 6 games. Good that he gave Jordan another year to perfect a bitter statement.
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Jun 22, 2014 15:14
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laz0rbeak posted:Just a quick reminder that Dan Gilbert and the Cavs's organization's response to a 66 win season was trading Ben Wallace's expiring contract, along with money, for Shaquille O'Neal (age 37) Four different teams brought in old fat Shaq as the last piece to their championship aspirations, and a half dozen other teams tried to do the same thing, it's not fair to single out the Cavs.
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Jun 22, 2014 15:42
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Declan MacManus posted:Also did Michael Jordan really make his teammates better in any real significant quantifiable way that LeBron doesn't Dennis Rodman ignored Isiah Thomas' calls when he was assembling a Korean all-star team because he learned all his leadership and diplomacy skills from Jordan.
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Jun 22, 2014 15:47
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Fun fact, Shaq was once on the Celtics
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Jun 22, 2014 15:47
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WhyteRyce posted:Fun fact, Shaq was once on the Celtics NateRob the Fun Multiplier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UAFS5PGawg
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Jun 22, 2014 15:51
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Shaq was a beast in 09. Ben Wallace wasn't giving great minutes then either. Shaq played like 900 more minutes in 09 than Wallace did. Cleveland gave up basically nothing other than Gilbert's money to get Shaq, isn't that what people want owners to do?
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Jun 22, 2014 15:51
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Cleveland was also consistently a top 3-4 team when LeBron was there but that's ignored too
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Jun 22, 2014 16:00
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WhyteRyce posted:Fun fact, Shaq was once on the Celtics I just bought a Shaq Celtics jersey off of ebay for like $25 last week  Lockback posted:Shaq was a beast in 09. Ben Wallace wasn't giving great minutes then either. Shaq played like 900 more minutes in 09 than Wallace did. Cleveland gave up basically nothing other than Gilbert's money to get Shaq, isn't that what people want owners to do? Yeah I think trading for Shaq was a pretty good move for the Cavs. He had just come off something like a 18/8 season with Phoenix and he cost them almost nothing to get. My memory is that there were very low expectations on him as well, like that they'd be thrilled if he gave them half a season and then twenty minutes a game in the playoffs. Inside Outside fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Jun 22, 2014 |
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Jun 22, 2014 16:00
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Lockback posted:Shaq was a beast in 09. Ben Wallace wasn't giving great minutes then either. Shaq played like 900 more minutes in 09 than Wallace did. Cleveland gave up basically nothing other than Gilbert's money to get Shaq, isn't that what people want owners to do? Someone link the article that looked at all the moves Cleveland did after they landed Lebron compared to what SA did after landing Duncan.
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Jun 22, 2014 16:02
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the_american_dream posted:Cleveland was also consistently a top 3-4 team when LeBron was there but that's ignored too Nobody ignores that? They were a top team because of Lebron and Varejao, not the lovely bunch of replacement level players around them. It's odd that that Chicago gave a 33 year old Ben Wallace a 4 year 60m deal, and odder than Cleveland took on the last three years. Dejan Bimble fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Jun 22, 2014 |
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Jun 22, 2014 16:08
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Hashtag Banterzone posted:Someone link the article that looked at all the moves Cleveland did after they landed Lebron compared to what SA did after landing Duncan. I would like to read this article if someone could link it? I tried googling for a few phrases but I could only find this 
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Jun 22, 2014 16:20
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I'm pretty sure that letter is what had me rooting for the Heat in the past 4 post-seasons. Dan Gilbert might be the biggest oval office out of all the owners in sports right now outside of Jerry Jones.
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Jun 22, 2014 16:31
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Dan Gilbert's whiny letter doesn't make him look like a dumb baby with a dirty diap because he has a lot of money
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Jun 22, 2014 16:33
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Declan MacManus posted:Also did Michael Jordan really make his teammates better in any real significant quantifiable way that LeBron doesn't He taught many teammates how to take a punch. Also ESPN reports that Melo asked a "high profile Chicagoan" what it's like being famous in the city. Please don't scare Melo away Jim Belushi
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Jun 22, 2014 18:22
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it was ferris bueller
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Jun 22, 2014 18:39
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Frank Isola @FisolaNYDN · 1m A person close to Carmelo Anthony confirms that Melo, as expected, will inform Knicks on Monday that he's opting out. "One hundred percent." Melos going to walk out of New York and into Chicago never to be seen ever again.  it was fun
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Jun 22, 2014 18:40
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On one hand you have players mouthlessly furiously shaking their heads telling Melo to turn left to not come here but then they also want him to come on the small chance they will stop being asked to play 48 minutes in a playoff game.
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Jun 22, 2014 18:43
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I kinda want to see how disastrous a full season of Melo-less Knicks would be.
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Jun 22, 2014 18:43
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Could this be another blockbuster offseason??
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Jun 22, 2014 18:44
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Great White Hope posted:I kinda want to see how disastrous a full season of Melo-less Knicks would be. 
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Jun 22, 2014 18:47
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The Pippen family were in Paris and visited the Louvre with Melo today, so realgm  Bulls fans are going crazy about that.
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Jun 22, 2014 18:48
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Well, now I want JR Smith to have the worst 30+ ppg season of all time.
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Jun 22, 2014 18:49
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JR and Amare are going to both be all-stars and get to the 2nd round.
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Jun 22, 2014 18:54
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Carmelo, in New York you might have be the biggest sports star in the media capital of the world, but here in Chicago the people treat you right and let you dunk your healthy fritos five dollar footlongs through a basketball hoop
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Jun 22, 2014 18:56
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Noah, Melo, and Rose (insha'Allah) would be such a fun lineup to watchVanilla Mint Ice posted:Carmelo, in New York you might have be the biggest sports star in the media capital of the world, but here in Chicago the people treat you right and let you dunk your healthy fritos five dollar footlongs through a basketball hoop Unless you're Jay Cutler
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