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Spikeguy posted:The Raw thread raised a question. Someone mentioned the WWE forgiving Jack Swagger for being a racist and how back in the day they forgave Sgt. Slaughter for siding with Iraq. Who/what actions do you think were forgiven the most by the WWE Universe? And by that I mean who has conducted the worst conduct only to turn face and have it forgiven later? CM Punk poured the ashes of a recently deceased man onto his closest friend and still was getting cheered for it.
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Bard Maddox posted:CM Punk poured the ashes of a recently deceased man onto his closest friend and still was getting cheered for it. Were we supposed to think those were Paul Bearer's ashes? I just assumed it was some dust or powder he'd gotten to screw with Taker. He'd had the urn for weeks and it was clearly empty most of the time he was goofing around with it. In terms of instant heel forgiveness, the Dudley Boys were forgiven for a hell of a lot of torture they heaped on Spike Dudley pretty quickly when they turned face and he joined up with them.
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Jul 1, 2014 05:59
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I think the Fabs not reaching their Memphis popularity has a lot to do with the fact that they were an act that was big on pizazz. Which isn't to say they couldn't wrestle. Both Lane and Kern know what they were doing in the ring, especially Lane. But I don't think Verne was able (or willing, as we saw with Hogan), to play the glitz and glamour game when it came to promoting. I always assumed he had to be talked into stuff like the Rock N Rumble, and they probably only succeeded because he saw it was making WWE money.
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Jul 1, 2014 15:19
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Sanguinia posted:Were we supposed to think those were Paul Bearer's ashes? I just assumed it was some dust or powder he'd gotten to screw with Taker. He'd had the urn for weeks and it was clearly empty most of the time he was goofing around with it. They never said it was, but that was supposed to be the implication.
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Jul 1, 2014 15:27
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What is the reason for the turnbuckle rope that tag team wrestlers have to hold onto in the corner. I know back in the day they didn't have it. Is it just a kayfabe rule?
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Jul 1, 2014 16:04
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Kukash posted:What is the reason for the turnbuckle rope that tag team wrestlers have to hold onto in the corner. I know back in the day they didn't have it. Is it just a kayfabe rule? Yes, to provide some semblance of order so they can't just make tags anywhere around the ring and structure the match around the WWE style hot tag
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Jul 1, 2014 16:14
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They came in around 2001-ish IIRC and they were never directly mentioned. I don't remember there being any issues about tagging in weird places before this. I thought they looked weird and cheap, why didn't they use an actual rope?
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Jul 1, 2014 16:24
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keithy george posted:They came in around 2001-ish IIRC and they were never directly mentioned. I don't remember there being any issues about tagging in weird places before this. I thought they looked weird and cheap, why didn't they use an actual rope? Maybe they disappeared for a while or no one bothered with them, because they were definitely around in the 80's and early 90's.
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Jul 1, 2014 16:26
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Wasn't it Eddie that did the spot where he tied an extra rope to the tag rope to make it longer?
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Schlitzkrieg Bop posted:Maybe they disappeared for a while or no one bothered with them, because they were definitely around in the 80's and early 90's. That's exactly what happened.
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Jul 1, 2014 17:41
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TL posted:That's exactly what happened. That seemed to happen with a lot of rules during the Attitude era. I don't know if it was a desire to be more like ECW or it was Russo's "Why even have a ring?" philosophy, but things like disqualifications, countouts, etc basically didn't exist for a few years unless necessary for storyline purposes. How many main events included a "brawl through the crowd and backstage" segment with nobody getting counted out?
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Jul 1, 2014 17:50
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I have WWE network, I have Hulu. Where the hell can I watch a full, non-edited RAW?
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Jul 1, 2014 18:24
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That DICK! posted:I have WWE network, I have Hulu. Where the hell can I watch a full, non-edited RAW? You can't without a cable sub or streaming it like a lot of us do. Links are always posted in the Raw GDT.
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Jul 1, 2014 18:32
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Off the back of my last question who are considered the wrestlers/ex-wrestlers that everyone should stay away from in terms of training, advice, being a genuine piece of human trash? I don't expect an exhaustive list but 3 or 4 wrestlers that should be given a wide berth in all circumstances.
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Jul 1, 2014 18:36
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Wasn't it Eddie that did the spot where he tied an extra rope to the tag rope to make it longer? Eddie did do that. He would also untie the tag-rope and tie it to the top rope, then scoot out on the apron to get closer to his partner for a potential tag.
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Jul 1, 2014 19:22
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Ultragonk posted:Off the back of my last question who are considered the wrestlers/ex-wrestlers that everyone should stay away from in terms of training, advice, being a genuine piece of human trash? I don't expect an exhaustive list but 3 or 4 wrestlers that should be given a wide berth in all circumstances. Ian Rotten is generally a considered a walking bag of garbage. Axl is a decent guy.
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Jul 1, 2014 20:05
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Ultragonk posted:Off the back of my last question who are considered the wrestlers/ex-wrestlers that everyone should stay away from in terms of training, advice, being a genuine piece of human trash? I don't expect an exhaustive list but 3 or 4 wrestlers that should be given a wide berth in all circumstances. Ian Rotten has been screwing over workers for 20 years and New Jack is New Jack.
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Jul 1, 2014 20:13
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Bobby Eaton and Terry Funk probably belong in that thread, but I understand that way of thinking I've been watching a lot of old NWA/WCW on the network lately, and I don't really know why but I loving HATE Bobby Eaton. Jay 2K Winger posted:Eddie did do that. He would also untie the tag-rope and tie it to the top rope, then scoot out on the apron to get closer to his partner for a potential tag. When I was a kid, I remember Ric Flair would drag his partner over closer to his corner to make the tag, and the announcers would flip their poo poo over "Flair with the illegal tag! The referee didn't see it!" Tokelau All Star fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Jul 1, 2014 |
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Jul 1, 2014 20:24
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Ultragonk posted:Off the back of my last question who are considered the wrestlers/ex-wrestlers that everyone should stay away from in terms of training, advice, being a genuine piece of human trash? I don't expect an exhaustive list but 3 or 4 wrestlers that should be given a wide berth in all circumstances. New Jack, Ian Rotten, Invader 1
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Jul 1, 2014 20:48
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Spikeguy posted:The Raw thread raised a question. Someone mentioned the WWE forgiving Jack Swagger for being a racist and how back in the day they forgave Sgt. Slaughter for siding with Iraq. Who/what actions do you think were forgiven the most by the WWE Universe? And by that I mean who has conducted the worst conduct only to turn face and have it forgiven later? Undertaker, Kane, Triple H, Vince McMahon. All were cheered well after doing horrible poo poo. Non-kayfabe, those select few idiots who think Benoit should be in the HoF despite his actions. TL posted:They never said it was, but that was supposed to be the implication. No, Cole literally said the urn was "symbolic" several times. But still, he did interrupt the memorial segment.
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Jul 1, 2014 21:32
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Wasn't it Eddie that did the spot where he tied an extra rope to the tag rope to make it longer? I remember time when guys would use the rope to choke their opponent, but I haven't seen that in a long time.
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Jul 2, 2014 05:57
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Spikeguy posted:The Raw thread raised a question. Someone mentioned the WWE forgiving Jack Swagger for being a racist and how back in the day they forgave Sgt. Slaughter for siding with Iraq. Who/what actions do you think were forgiven the most by the WWE Universe? And by that I mean who has conducted the worst conduct only to turn face and have it forgiven later? When Kane lost his mask he electrocuted Shane McMahon's balls, set JR on fire, and raped Lita.
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Web Jew.0 posted:When Kane lost his mask he electrocuted Shane McMahon's balls, set JR on fire, and raped Lita.
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Jul 2, 2014 11:20
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St Evan Echoes posted:Sometimes I forget why I slowly stopped watching wrestling sometime between WM17 and WM19, and then posts like this remind me. Pfft, things like this are why Kane is my favourite wrestler
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Jul 2, 2014 11:33
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St Evan Echoes posted:Sometimes I forget why I slowly stopped watching wrestling sometime between WM17 and WM19, and then posts like this remind me. Shoulda been watching SmackDown instead.
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Jul 2, 2014 11:46
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I was too embarrassed to ask this in the past. Why was Koko B. Ware named Koko B. Ware? I own a parrot and a lovebird but I do not get whatever secret bird pun is contained in that name.
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Jul 2, 2014 15:41
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Halloween Jack posted:I was too embarrassed to ask this in the past. Why was Koko B. Ware named Koko B. Ware? I own a parrot and a lovebird but I do not get whatever secret bird pun is contained in that name. I just always thought they liked the "Beware" thing and that was that.
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Jul 2, 2014 15:54
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His name is Koko...and he has to beware that...I don't know, that Damien is going to eat Frankie? This is going to keep bothering me, isn't it?
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Jul 2, 2014 16:02
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Halloween Jack posted:I was too embarrassed to ask this in the past. Why was Koko B. Ware named Koko B. Ware? I own a parrot and a lovebird but I do not get whatever secret bird pun is contained in that name. I vaguely remember an old Jake the Snake bit where he basically makes fun of how random Koko's bird gimmick is. This was way back when Jake was thin and not visibly high. So it never made sense.
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Jul 2, 2014 16:04
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Why did the WWF have a working relationship with the USWA in the 90s when they were trying to run every other territory/federation out of business?
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Jul 2, 2014 21:58
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Halloween Jack posted:I was too embarrassed to ask this in the past. Why was Koko B. Ware named Koko B. Ware? I own a parrot and a lovebird but I do not get whatever secret bird pun is contained in that name. the kokobiwari was a small flightless bird from new zealand that is presumed to have gone extinct in the early 19th century
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Jul 2, 2014 22:17
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Luigi Thirty posted:Ian Rotten has been screwing over workers for 20 years and New Jack is New Jack. At least New Jack is donating his brain to science for concussion research. That is precisely One Point for New Jack, while Rotten has Zero Points.
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Jul 2, 2014 22:32
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I just assumed it was a pun on Kookaburra.
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Jul 2, 2014 22:34
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SamuraiFoochs posted:At least New Jack is donating his brain to science for concussion research. That is precisely One Point for New Jack, while Rotten has Zero Points. When they crack his skull open we will discover that his brain actually plays Natural Born Killaz all the time.
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Jul 2, 2014 22:41
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Liar Lyre posted:When they crack his skull open we will discover that his brain actually plays Natural Born Killaz all the time. They'll also find a creamy nougat filling where his impulse control used to be.
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Jul 2, 2014 23:26
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Burt Buckle posted:Why did the WWF have a working relationship with the USWA in the 90s when they were trying to run every other territory/federation out of business? Jerry Lawler. And they used it as a sort of developmental territory.
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Davros1 posted:Jerry Lawler. And they used it as a sort of developmental territory. They also had a sort of talent exchange thing. So you'd see USWA guys win matches on USWA TV for a spot in the Royal Rumble. But also you'd see Bret and Owen work together in Memphis because they hate rednecks. It's also where Vince first test-drove his Mr.McMahon character. You haven't lived until you've seen Vince do a credible Jim Nabors impression.
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Jul 3, 2014 00:00
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What did Ian Rotten do to make people mad at him?
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Jul 3, 2014 00:02
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Did we ever figure out if New Jack actually shot 3 people as a bounty hunter?
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Luigi Thirty posted:Did we ever figure out if New Jack actually shot 3 people as a bounty hunter? I wanna ask Dave this, legit. And I believe it was 4.
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