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Vando
Oct 26, 2007

stoats about

Gibbo posted:

Nibs at least has some charisma and entertainment value, and isn't hated by his teammates.

Not a hit with the ladies tho but hey you can't have everything

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dema
Aug 13, 2006

Withnail posted:

For the record, I don't think any of Froome's crashes were his fault.

poo poo happens. But you can improve your chances by being attentive and well positioned in the pack. It's a skill.

Anyway. In hindsight, Froome was totally hosed going into today's stage. The crashes just sealed the deal a little early.

dema fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Jul 9, 2014

DONT TOUCH THE PC
Jul 15, 2001

You should try it, it's a real buzz.

Gibbo posted:

Nibs at least has some charisma and entertainment value, and isn't hated by his teammates.

The belgian commentators did say about Sky: "if you can't keep two of your best riders on good terms you're a poo poo manager".

GrimSqueaker
Sep 26, 2011
That was the most epic Tour stage I've seen in years. Reminded me of Giro 2010.

And that Lars Boom wins is the best of all.

This Tour is going to be EPIC.

Mr.Nice
Apr 28, 2006
Stage 5 (Ypres > Arenberg Porte du Hainaut)









EN - Summary - Stage 5 (Ypres > Arenberg Porte du Hainaut)
EN - Hot news of the day - Stage 5
EN - The Flamme rouge - The last kilometre - Stage 5



Nibali is the new favourite.

Full Result


Older Stages

EN - On-board camera - Stage 3 (Cambridge > Londres)
EN - Zapping Stage 1 to Stage 4


Stage 6 Arras / Reims 195km

EN - Stage 6: by Thierry Gouvenou (TDF Race director and former rider)

Mountain passes & hills

Km 107.5 - Côte de Coucy-le-Château-Auffrique 0.9 km at 6.2% - category 4
Km 157.0 - Côte de Roucy 1.5 km at 6.2% - category 4



Intermediate Sprint & Finish



Weather



Stage 6 Winner odds



Time schedule

Start : 12h50
Finish : 17h13 (46km/h) 17h24 (44km/h) 17h37 (42km/h) CET

paddyboat
Feb 20, 2013

Maxi, Maxi Rodriguez
Run down the wing for me

:getin:

Hegay
Jun 29, 2012

African AIDS cum posted:

I think they will go with this story to make Froome look like he toughed it out, but you could hear the team and riders telling him to go on and he just threw a fit and got in the car. I bet the most hurt thing is his feelings. Very mentally weak.

Rolf Sørensen was screaming at him on national TV to get back on the bike and stop being a pussy and then he got angry at Team Sky for not just getting him back up on the bike ASAP instead of pandering his wussy tendensies and I did a lol and rubbed my thighs

DONT TOUCH THE PC
Jul 15, 2001

You should try it, it's a real buzz.

GrimSqueaker posted:

That was the most epic Tour stage I've seen in years. Reminded me of Giro 2010.

And that Lars Boom wins is the best of all.

This Tour is going to be EPIC.

I do hope so, this was a fun stage and nibali surprised everyone with his cobbleskills, while Contador who was considered to be better prepared was left in the dust.

Dirtanium
Aug 3, 2007
This was a great stage to watch. Which stage is the next chance for a big shakeup?

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
There's a decent chance of rain tomorrow. If today's anything to go by, half the tour can't remember how to ride in the wet.

Punc
Nov 3, 2009

Ass to Ass.
This was an amazing stage. Boom finally proving it to everybody that switching from cyclocross was a good idea. Contador in attack mode is always fun.

Dirtanium posted:

This was a great stage to watch. Which stage is the next chance for a big shakeup?

Next two are for Kittel and Sagan. Stage 8 might be too soon for real attacks.
I reckon stage 10 for the first real test.

Crystael
Mar 19, 2010
If any of you lot busy Froome-bashing think there was nothing suspicious about Nibali and his mountain domestiques dropping 2 of the best classics riders of their generation on the flat then you're out of your loving minds. Ridiculous scenes.

DONT TOUCH THE PC
Jul 15, 2001

You should try it, it's a real buzz.
Both are also decent timetrialists and have had a shorter season than most of the others in the pack. Also: they didn't have any punctures.

edit:
also what dema said, working together does help.

DONT TOUCH THE PC fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Jul 9, 2014

dema
Aug 13, 2006

Crystael posted:

If any of you lot busy Froome-bashing think there was nothing suspicious about Nibali and his mountain domestiques dropping 2 of the best classics riders of their generation on the flat then you're out of your loving minds. Ridiculous scenes.

Na, that was the same old story. Fabs and Sagan wouldn't work together.

African AIDS cum
Feb 29, 2012


Welcome back, welcome back, welcome baaaack

Crystael posted:

If any of you lot busy Froome-bashing think there was nothing suspicious about Nibali and his mountain domestiques dropping 2 of the best classics riders of their generation on the flat then you're out of your loving minds. Ridiculous scenes.

They are totally clean riders for sure, shame there isn't a PED that gives one the ability to ride a bike in rain or Froome might still be in the race haha.

Pocket
Aug 27, 2006

^ If he cut down on the Tramadol he'd probably not fall as much :ssh:


This stage was 100km shorter distance than an actual classic with a less than a 3rd of the amount of pavé in a regular Paris-Roubaix. The classic specialists did not have a big enough canvas to destroy everyone. Look at the time Boom put in solo against the Nibali group in the closing kilometers.

Pocket fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Jul 9, 2014

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.
And it was Westra that did the damage to Contador and Talansky, combined with them being fannys and not riding hard in the cobbles. Nibali just sucked Westras wheel for 20 minutes and then had a 2 minute lead.

Russian Bear
Dec 26, 2007


serious gaylord posted:

And it was Westra that did the damage to Contador and Talansky, combined with them being fannys and not riding hard in the cobbles. Nibali just sucked Westras wheel for 20 minutes and then had a 2 minute lead.

Exactly, Contador said after the stage that he slowed down as not to fall and crash out of the race.

Also I want to point out:

quote:

"Because of the mud I didn’t drop into the small sprockets
and I couldn’t keep up with the front," Contador said after
he rolled across the line.

What he meant to say was SRAM is poo poo and where is my electronic shifting. Coupled with his previous comments that he prefers to stay in the big ring with a big cassette (usually a 32), maybe TS will be on shimano/campy next year.

dema
Aug 13, 2006

Oh, I think Oleg has already guaranteed that they won't be on SRAM next year. That bridge has been burnt.

African AIDS cum posted:

Van Garderen a oval office in his interview with NBC today, bit of a drama queen crybaby

Hey, something we can agree on. He was a giant pussy last year too.

Compare and contrast:

quote:

Andrew Talansky (Garmin-Sharp): “Could not have asked for a more dedicated and incredible group of guys to get me through today. Unscathed, safe, feeling great. It was an epic day to be a part of, it was a day I’ll remember for the rest of my life.”

quote:

Tejay van Garderen (BMC Racing): “You guys got your drama, but that takes the race down a notch when you got your top favorite [Froome] out. In theory, it could make the race less exciting toward the end. I think ASO need to rethink having days like this in the race. For me, It could have been worse, it could have been better. We will just have to move forward.”

They both had crashes.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/07/news/cobblestone-chaos-tour-peloton-reacts_335295

dema fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Jul 9, 2014

African AIDS cum
Feb 29, 2012


Welcome back, welcome back, welcome baaaack
They need to formally take Tejay's Montana citizenship away from him because he is soft

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.
Who was the BMC rider who had that lovely front somesault face plant into the mud?

Withnail
Feb 11, 2004
I try to like TeeJay, but having 20+ days of racing decided by an hour or so of w/kg is not that exciting to watch. I wish they had more stuff like today. If 30 people had DNFed I might think different. But there was only one.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.
The damage today had nothing to do with the cobblestones. It came from the field being off their heads on painkillers and unable to ride in the wet.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer

serious gaylord posted:

Who was the BMC rider who had that lovely front somesault face plant into the mud?

I think that was Lars Bak for Lotto Belisol

GrimSqueaker
Sep 26, 2011

goatface posted:

I think that was Lars Bak for Lotto Belisol

Yep. He ought to get 10 points for that stunt.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

goatface posted:

I think that was Lars Bak for Lotto Belisol

So it was. For some reason I just thought BMC. No idea why.

Swink
Apr 18, 2006
Left Side <--- Many Whelps
Anyone got it in gif form?

paddyboat
Feb 20, 2013

Maxi, Maxi Rodriguez
Run down the wing for me
Finally got a chance to watch all of that. Nibali owns and I'm starting to like him more these days. Contador just had to make it home in one piece and he figures he can do what he likes in the mountains.

I hope Porte Talansky Van G Valverde and all the others attack him mercilessly and constantly. It's gonna be a good one.

Knitting Beetles
Feb 4, 2006

Fallen Rib

Swink posted:

Anyone got it in gif form?



e: mine's bigger

Knitting Beetles fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Jul 10, 2014

Elston Gunn
Apr 15, 2005



e: Totally beaten on the GIF so I added a few more.



Elston Gunn fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Jul 10, 2014

VacaGrande
Dec 24, 2003
God! A red nugget! A fat egg under a dog!

Paddyb posted:

Finally got a chance to watch all of that. Nibali owns and I'm starting to like him more these days. Contador just had to make it home in one piece and he figures he can do what he likes in the mountains.

I hope Porte Talansky Van G Valverde and all the others attack him mercilessly and constantly. It's gonna be a good one.

I stopped worrying and learned to love the Nibali in MSR. His crazy descending skills have always made me like him but the hero attack this year in MSR pushed me over the edge. He rides with panache. I hope he wins, but I can't want to see Contador attacking like a madman.

Virigoth
Apr 28, 2009

Corona rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M. get the virus
In the ICU y'all......



Poor FroomeDog. That poo poo looked rough as hell today. gently caress cobblestones.

Box Hill Strangler
Jun 27, 2007

Frozen peas are on special at Woolies! Bargain!
That reminded me of the Strade Bianche Giro stage Evans won in 2010, sweet as gently caress.

Such a shame about Froome...

Nibbles/Astana impressive as gently caress. Its almost a bummer because it would be wide open between all the other contenders otherwise (and still may be), but you cant deny Nibali 2 minutes or whatever it is after today. Deserves every second.

Also, I dont know if Id laugh or cry if Porte won this year. he wont

Edit:


loving lol.

Box Hill Strangler fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Jul 10, 2014

TraderStav
May 19, 2006

It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down
Scratching my head after watching the replay. Why didn't Boom win the yellow jersey? First to cross surely has to have the shortest time, yes? Or does the yellow jersey go to the rider with the shortest time cumulatively over the whole tour so far?

Edit: oh, awesome stage. Loved watching it

paddyboat
Feb 20, 2013

Maxi, Maxi Rodriguez
Run down the wing for me
It's cumulative time. Also Hammer time

TraderStav
May 19, 2006

It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down

Paddyb posted:

It's cumulative time. Also Hammer time

Ah. That makes sense. Same for the other jerseys? For whatever reason I thought everyone had a chance to get one on a given stage. A perk if you kick rear end for just one day. I imagine there have been competitions in the past where one rider wore it the whole time?

African AIDS cum
Feb 29, 2012


Welcome back, welcome back, welcome baaaack
Lance Armstrong won 7 tours by winning the sprint on the champs elysee. Lol at the other guys tiring themselves out in the mountains.

Allyn
Sep 4, 2007

I love Charlie from Busted!
Winning a stage gets you up on the presentation first and is its own reward. Win lots of stages and you're in contention to win the green jersey, though. All jerseys are cumulative. There are little awards like most combative rider for someone who was in the breakaway (or gets hit by a car into a barbed wire fence, rip Johnny Hoogerland's legs)

Afaik nobody has worn the yellow for every single stage. Having it early on is kind of a drain because it can force your team to do all the work in the peloton, chasing down the breakaway in order to preserve it. If you just want to win the Tour you don't really give a poo poo how many days you hold it for, so long as you hold it once you reach Paris (see: Cadel Evans wearing it for the first time in 2011 after the penultimate day's time trial. Got to wear it for one stage, but won the overall)

Allyn fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Jul 10, 2014

African AIDS cum
Feb 29, 2012


Welcome back, welcome back, welcome baaaack

quote:

He told TeamSky.com: “I’m devastated to have to pull out of the race. It was the right thing to do after crashing again and I knew that I couldn’t carry on.
“I’m going to fly home tonight and over the next few days I’ll go for some more scans on my wrist to find out exactly what injuries I’ve sustained.

“The X-ray last night didn't show an obvious fracture and I wanted to race today, but clearly I was in pain and we put heavy strapping on the left wrist from the start. It’s too early to say for definite when I’ll be back on the bike, I’m just going to concentrate on getting back to full fitness.

He said: “Chris first suffered a fall yesterday and landed on his left wrist. Initial X-rays were reassuring, but with the nature of the bones involved at the wrist, it was prudent to keep an open mind on any potential fracture that might not have been evident straight away.

“Chris underwent appropriate medical treatment last night, and again this morning, and he was able to start today’s stage.

“Unfortunately, due to the nature and location of Chris's injury, it made controlling the bike difficult, and with the treacherous conditions, the decision was taken between Chris and I to withdraw from the race.

“Chris is bitterly disappointed but recognises that it was the right thing to do. He will now return home and undergo more extensive investigations. We will treat him as appropriate for his injuries and hope to see him back on the bike in the very near future.”

Also re watched when he abandons, he stand ps there waiting for the car just looking dejected, car pulls up and he gives the I'm done sign, then realizes he should act like he's in pain so winces a bit.

At the finish when they interviewed Geraint Thomas after was the first he heard Froome abandoned he had an interesting reaction, something like "oh thats disappointing for him" didn't seem to care .

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Withnail
Feb 11, 2004
Oh good to know that Froome was just faking an injury so he didn't have to ride the tour de france or whatever.

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