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When your showrunner is on record as going "well we just tried to see how far we could push it before the FCC shut us down" it's not artistic intent, it's trying to see what you can get away with Hth
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Jul 10, 2014 15:49
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E PLURIBUS ANUS posted:Because The Leftovers doesn't need ludicrously gross amounts of violence to tell a surreal story, it doesn't fall constantly onto that crutch The Leftovers is trying to tell a story?
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Jul 10, 2014 15:50
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Mods please ban this guy.
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Jul 10, 2014 15:50
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E PLURIBUS ANUS posted:When your showrunner is on record as going "well we just tried to see how far we could push it before the FCC shut us down" it's not artistic intent, it's trying to see what you can get away with Oh my god you are willfully misinterpreting this poo poo
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Jul 10, 2014 15:51
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zoux posted:Mods please ban this guy. I dunno the last time Occ got out of hand he got hit with LMS, I say let's fire up Deadpool's creative side again.
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Jul 10, 2014 15:51
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IRQ posted:The Leftovers is trying to tell a story? Yeah, and it rules, last episode started with a compound raid, dunno where people are goin on about nothin happening
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Jul 10, 2014 15:52
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I'm xposting this from the PHIZ pix thread because it's the goddamn weirdest thing I've ever seen in my life. http://www.56.com/u73/v_MTE1MDcxOTQy.html
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E PLURIBUS ANUS posted:When your showrunner is on record as going "well we just tried to see how far we could push it before the FCC shut us down" it's not artistic intent, it's trying to see what you can get away with Why can't it be both?
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Jul 10, 2014 15:53
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IRQ posted:I dunno the last time Occ got out of hand he got hit with LMS, I say let's fire up Deadpool's creative side again. Lol expressin contrary opinion = gettin out of hand
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Jul 10, 2014 15:53
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Occ has talked about Hannibal at length before and it basically boils down to him having really really strange problems with televised violence from what I recall and him admitting he just fundamentally couldn't get past this. It's lame he's kinda going back on that right now.
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Jul 10, 2014 15:57
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The Wire only got two Emmy nominations. It didn't win either of them.
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Jul 10, 2014 15:57
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Bown posted:Occ has talked about Hannibal at length before and it basically boils down to him having really really strange problems with televised violence from what I recall and him admitting he just fundamentally couldn't get past this. It's lame he's kinda going back on that right now. No I'm not, that's my entire argument for why the show is bad, it's just a well-shot criminal minds that uses its conceit as an excuse to ghoulishly focus on extremely lurid acts of violence which are shot-with the slow pans and close ups and all- in a way to force the audience to focus on it to the exclusion of everything else
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Jul 10, 2014 16:01
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I wish we could lose 2% of TVIV
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Jul 10, 2014 16:04
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EL BROMANCE posted:I can't be the only one confused over the following Emmy categorisations: Pretty much they choose, and there's no way HBO was going to lose out on some spoils this year by jamming its two hottest critical properties (TD and Normal Heart) into the same set of categories. (It's like how Downton Abbey moved from miniseries to drama in its 2nd season, or Shameless moved from Drama to Comedy this year.)
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Jul 10, 2014 16:07
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E PLURIBUS ANUS posted:No I'm not, that's my entire argument for why the show is bad, it's just a well-shot criminal minds that uses its conceit as an excuse to ghoulishly focus on extremely lurid acts of violence which are shot-with the slow pans and close ups and all- in a way to force the audience to focus on it to the exclusion of everything else Counter-point: no it doesn't. well we appear to be at a standstill edit: honestly trust me dude as someone who gives absolutely 0 shits about violence the character work in Hannibal is just fantastic and it's a great show
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Jul 10, 2014 17:09
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I'm not upset about Hannibal and The Americans being shut out because they have been renewed for third seasons already so who cares.
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Jul 10, 2014 17:09
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Rarity posted:I wish we could lose 2% of TVIV We'd lose good posters and bad posters. Occ would form a cult of Living Remnants that would smoke and watch Last Man Standing all day.
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Jul 10, 2014 17:09
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Occupation trolling harder than Ravane all up ins. Hannibal is a bad show? 
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Jul 10, 2014 17:11
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hcreight posted:We'd lose good posters and bad posters. Occ would form a cult of Living Remnants that would smoke and watch Last Man Standing all day. Don't worry y'all, I'm not going anywhere. Ever.
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Jul 10, 2014 17:12
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hcreight posted:Occ would form a cult of Living Remnants that would smoke and watch Last Man Standing all day. So you mean...the current state of tviv
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Jul 10, 2014 17:14
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Bown posted:Counter-point: no it doesn't. Dude I saw like the first 3/4 of season one before quitting in disgust, this isn't an uninformed opinion Ed: also wouldn't someone who doesn't care about violence's opinion be less applicable than someone who did's? I mean I respect you dogg just sayin NieR Occomata fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Jul 10, 2014 |
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Jul 10, 2014 17:15
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Allison Tolman is in the Supporting Actress category? Is that a joke? The entire series is the Molly Solverson power hour.
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Jul 10, 2014 17:17
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E PLURIBUS ANUS posted:Dude I saw like the first 3/4 of season one before quitting in disgust, this isn't an uninformed opinion shhhhh, shush don't make me give you the squid
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Jul 10, 2014 17:17
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JohnSherman posted:Allison Tolman is in the Supporting Actress category? Is that a joke? The entire series is the Molly Solverson power hour. Actors submit for their categories, she figured she has a much better chance to win in supporting (which she does)
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Jul 10, 2014 17:18
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I'm torn I think she deserves to win but I don't want another raft of "Hey a fat girl in the news let's talk about how the media treats fat girls" thinkpieces.
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Jul 10, 2014 17:19
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E PLURIBUS ANUS posted:Actors submit for their categories, she figured she has a much better chance to win in supporting (which she does) Actually apparently Julia Roberts submit for supporting so HAHA NOPE That being said tolman probs had no loving idea how JR was gonna submit so it was still the "right" move
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Jul 10, 2014 17:22
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E PLURIBUS ANUS posted:Actors submit for their categories, she figured she has a much better chance to win in supporting (which she does) I understand that, but it's still loving stupid. I mean, at least with Fargo, you can make the case that it narrowly fits the definition of a miniseries based on what has been released about the as-yet unconfirmed second season. With Tolman, there is literally no person who can be trusted not to choke themselves getting dressed in the morning who would describe her role as a supporting one. It's blatant vote gaming. Why even bother splitting the categories if you aren't making an effort to abide by them?
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Jul 10, 2014 17:29
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Lizzy Caplan and Allison Janney getting noms is pretty loving dope. That's all I really got to say about the emmys.
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Jul 10, 2014 17:31
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zoux posted:I'm torn I think she deserves to win but I don't want another raft of "Hey a fat girl in the news let's talk about how the media treats fat girls" thinkpieces. Anyone who watched Fargo and walked away thinking it had anything to say about fat women is brain damaged. Allison Tolman is not grossly obese like Melissa McCarthy, nor does she proudly display her cottage cheese covered rolls like Lena Dunham. Her character is just a normal person doing a normal person's job, for gently caress's sake.
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Jul 10, 2014 17:31
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Joe I was just about to hire you for my blog but not with that kind of can't-do attitude. We cram square pegs into round holes in internet entertainment journalism.
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Jul 10, 2014 17:35
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The Spoils of Babylon got a nom, you stupid motherfuckers, THE GODDAMN SPOILS OF BABYLON!!!! the motherfucking spoils. of. Babylon. BABYLON!!!!!!!!
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Jul 10, 2014 17:47
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scary ghost dog posted:The Spoils of Babylon got a nom, you stupid motherfuckers, THE GODDAMN SPOILS OF BABYLON!!!! the motherfucking spoils. of. Babylon. BABYLON!!!!!!!! Well deserved too. I find it so weird there were people who hated Wiig in that show. I think I nominated her in the TVIV Awards as well.
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Jul 10, 2014 17:51
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Bown posted:Well deserved too. I find it so weird there were people who hated Wiig in that show. I think I nominated her in the TVIV Awards as well. In my defense I've hated her in everything.
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Jul 10, 2014 17:53
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As well as everyone and everything ever.
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Jul 10, 2014 17:53
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zoux posted:As well as everyone and everything ever. Exactly. At least I'm consistent. I've no idea what's going on with Joe these days.
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Jul 10, 2014 17:54
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Can't wait to see Jeff Daniels win Best Actor again. 
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Jul 10, 2014 18:00
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precision posted:Occupation trolling harder than Ravane all up ins. Hannibal is a bad show? I like Hannibal. And Occupation is entitled to his own opinion. It might not represent the majority, doubly so with his fondness of "The Leftovers," but he is entitled to it nonetheless. However, his argument against Hannibal makes little sense. He should be making the comparison that if pornography, which is an extreme version of the beauty of human sexuality, can not be considered artistic, then Hannibal which offers gratuitous violence as its mode of entertainment should not bear artistic value either. But this, of course, probes the inner meaning of the show: what constitutes art? Hannibal doesn't demonstrate his artistic ability through these violent acts. He chooses his victim carefully, a person he values less than dirt. He kills this person, like he kills every person, without emotion, apathetic to his victim's past. And he recreates him. He envisions himself as God; he is an artist recreating this terrible carbon form into a flawless diamond for all to admire. It's not the violent act itself that's artistic, no matter how great the cinematography may be. It's the end product. The dish and the crime scene. He's invited to every crime scene where he inspects his own work and the work of others like a jeweler authenticates a gem. He is no serial killer, he's an artisan. He understands that humans are truly free to do whatever they want, whether it is to kill or create. And Hannibal blends the polar opposites of beauty and morbidity, as only a truly free man can. Just like Tim Allen.
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Ravane posted:Tim Allen. Where is Tim Allen? Is he doing anything? I feel like he could still be viable in hollywood, in TV at the very least, yet he's nowhere to be found. He was doing a lot of voiceover work for a while and I was like, good for you, that's cool, but he should be in front of the camera more often I say
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timp posted:Where is Tim Allen? Is he doing anything? I feel like he could still be viable in hollywood, in TV at the very least, yet he's nowhere to be found. He was doing a lot of voiceover work for a while and I was like, good for you, that's cool, but he should be in front of the camera more often I say Oh my do you have fun times ahead: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3632901
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