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Verity Lambert | 49 | 7.04% | |
John Wiles | 1 | 0.14% | |
Innes Lloyd | 1 | 0.14% | |
Peter Bryant | 3 | 0.43% | |
Derrick Sherwin | 3 | 0.43% | |
Barry Letts | 12 | 1.72% | |
Phillip Hinchcliffe | 62 | 8.91% | |
Graham Williams | 3 | 0.43% | |
John Nathan-Turner | 15 | 2.16% | |
Philip Segal | 3 | 0.43% | |
Russel T Davies | 106 | 15.23% | |
Steven Moffat | 114 | 16.38% | |
Son Goku | 324 | 46.55% | |
Total: | 696 votes |
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Davros1 posted:RTD never had any intention of ever erasing the Eight Doctor from history. RTD is a good man, and thorough
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# ? Jul 12, 2014 10:15 |
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# ? Apr 27, 2024 05:02 |
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I don't remember specifics but there is a scene in RTD's Queer as Folk where they discuss the canoninity of McGann.
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# ? Jul 12, 2014 11:05 |
Also, McGann more than any other influenced how Doctor Who came back. It was romantic and loud and brash. Of course McGann counted. I don't remember ever doubting it.
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# ? Jul 12, 2014 16:16 |
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BSam posted:I don't remember specifics but there is a scene in RTD's Queer as Folk where they discuss the canoninity of McGann. He doesn't count.
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# ? Jul 12, 2014 16:32 |
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Rumors abound that the workprint for S8E1 has leaked, so be on HIGHER GUARD THAN USUAL if you don't want to be spoiled. We are entering GIFSET TERRITORY here!
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# ? Jul 12, 2014 16:45 |
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Davros1 posted:RTD never had any intention of ever erasing the Eight Doctor from history. I can see why people might have thought (or declared via the power of wishful thinking) otherwise, because early on RTD treated the Doctor's history in general with a relatively light touch. And rightly so. Throwing in the odd familiar name or iconic monster was exactly the amount of attention the old series needed in the early days of the revival. Nothing would have sunk it faster than turning a new generation's first experience of Doctor Who into a forty-year-old continuity-laden mess. I can take or leave the TV movie (I think its biggest flaw is exactly what I said above; it was too enmired in stuff a new audience would have no reason to know or care about), but I'm super-glad that McGann is part of the official canon (to the extent that there needs to be an official canon, which there doesn't), and I'm super-glad that he's choosing to stay involved with the series via the audios. Of all the people who've played the Doctor, with the possible exception of Christopher Eccleston (edit: well, and John Hurt, obviously), McGann is the one whose career would most completely justify him turning his back on the whole thing to focus on other work if he were so inclined. Which isn't to say that the others haven't had success as well, but they're all, on some level, always going to be "that guy who used to be Doctor Who", and McGann could easily have distanced himself from the whole thing if he so chose. docbeard fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Jul 12, 2014 |
# ? Jul 12, 2014 16:52 |
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I'd wager that McCoy's presence in the TV movie is the main reason McGann's considered canon at all, more so than any other element in that episode. If our introduction to McGann had begun in media res, with the 8th Doctor already several years/decades/centuries into his incarnation, there would have been more justifiable reasons to just waive away his incarnation as either some Cushing-esque "alternate" Doctor or some vague "future" incarnation. Thankfully, Virgin & BBC Books pretty much cemented that canonicity by taking the events of the TV movie as gospel, and Big Finish after them. From that point on it would have been rather foolish for anyone to suggest McGann's Doctor wasn't canon.
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# ? Jul 12, 2014 16:55 |
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Ha, I could meet Andrew Cartmel tomorrow at the London Comiccon. (Also McGann, C.Bakes, Cribbens, etc)
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# ? Jul 12, 2014 17:07 |
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The_Doctor posted:Ha, I could meet Andrew Cartmel tomorrow at the London Comiccon. (Also McGann, C.Bakes, Cribbens, etc) Yeah, if you can get in! The lines look outrageous!
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# ? Jul 12, 2014 17:10 |
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McGann posted:For anyone not paying attention to the 'news' section of Doctor Who Legacy, they released the 5th Doctor code today That being said, you helped me discover the game. Allow me to thank/curse you for hoovering up several hours. Sonance posted:I'd wager that McCoy's presence in the TV movie is the main reason McGann's considered canon at all, more so than any other element in that episode. If our introduction to McGann had begun in media res, with the 8th Doctor already several years/decades/centuries into his incarnation, there would have been more justifiable reasons to just waive away his incarnation as either some Cushing-esque "alternate" Doctor or some vague "future" incarnation. Thankfully, Virgin & BBC Books pretty much cemented that canonicity by taking the events of the TV movie as gospel, and Big Finish after them. From that point on it would have been rather foolish for anyone to suggest McGann's Doctor wasn't canon. Yvonmukluk fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Jul 12, 2014 |
# ? Jul 12, 2014 18:06 |
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The_Doctor posted:Ha, I could meet Andrew Cartmel tomorrow at the London Comiccon. (Also McGann, C.Bakes, Cribbens, etc) Plus if you want to pay 50 for a picture
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 00:54 |
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Jerusalem posted:I don't know if there was an overwhelming consensus one way or the other when it aired, but I remember watching it and thinking that for all the stuff it got wrong, the casting of McGann was spot on and I really wanted to see more of him as the Doctor. Which we ended up getting, happily! McGann (and Sly, to a lesser degree) sell the gently caress out of that movie. Between that and thinking Doctor Who was coming back from the dead (literally ), I was excited enough to ignore most of its flaws the first time I saw it. In hindsight, it's not smashing, but it's better than people give it credit for. There are still some pretty bad parts and some dumb continuity gaffes, but anybody who thinks that's the first time that's happened in Doctor Who's history has some serious rose-colored glasses on about the old serials. Finally, in closing, I'd like to take a moment to say WHERE THE gently caress ARE THE NEW EPISODES WHERE ARE THEY ALSO WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE DOCTOR.
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 04:51 |
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The Movie gave us Will Sasso dancing around in a Nixon mask. It's much better than people remember.
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 05:23 |
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Detective No. 27 posted:The Movie gave us Will Sasso dancing around in a Nixon mask. It's much better than people remember. Speaking of, how horrifying is the fact that River let Nixon into the TARDIS? Can you imagine if he was aware of it's full capabilities?
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 06:01 |
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Chokes McGee posted:ALSO WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE DOCTOR. Since they're all splendid chaps, I don't really want to play favorites. But I vote McGann on principle, because he deserves more people saying that than he gets.
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 09:04 |
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Finally got my seven year old to sit still for long enough to watch an episode of Who last night. Went with The Eleventh Hour and he loved it - I think we may wind up burning through the full Smith run before Capaldi's starts next month (we watched The Beast Below this morning). That's three generations of my family that watch this now. Man, how bummed is he going to be when he finds out about regeneration?
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 09:25 |
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Chokes McGee posted:Finally, in closing, I'd like to take a moment to say WHERE THE gently caress ARE THE NEW EPISODES WHERE ARE THEY ALSO WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE DOCTOR. If you don't mind unfinished special effects the workprint of the first episode has leaked.
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 13:10 |
marktheando posted:If you don't mind unfinished special effects the workprint of the first episode has leaked. And despite everyone saying that you can't judge an episode by a script it turns out that's exactly what you can do.
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 13:29 |
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Oh yes, the spoiler thread is unanimous, wait, no it isn't. But keep it there til the episode airs, alright?
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 13:33 |
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Detective No. 27 posted:The Movie gave us Will Sasso dancing around in a Nixon mask. It's much better than people remember. I was all set to really dislike the movie - got a couple friends together to have a viewing party. Needless to say it was enjoyable, but not for the reason we intended. The only "funny" moments were just moments of "what the gently caress" with regard to the plot - All three of us really liked McGann's Doctor. Hell, I even liked the "plot", it just had a lot of shaky bits tying it together. Nothing can redeem Eric Robert's pedo-Master (why was he so weirdly sexual towards his 'companion', anyway?) edit: And now I'm off to the wiki to try to figure out the "in-universe" rationalization for why the Daleks would call The Doctor to help carry out The Master's last wish (or whatever) - and why they'd even want to carry out a last wish..or why they had The Master anyway... edit x2: Ok, that is dumb as hell. A Dalek-Time Lord treaty? wtf? McGann fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Jul 13, 2014 |
# ? Jul 13, 2014 14:36 |
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whatsabattle posted:Speaking of, how horrifying is the fact that River let Nixon into the TARDIS? It's always been in the New Presidents Information Pack, going back to 1789. Ben Franklin wandered in after Washington left the door open, demanding to go a tour of "the Great Prostitutes of History." This is why the Doctor mistakenly calls him a US President later on - James Buchanan would make a similar request.
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 15:52 |
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whatsabattle posted:Speaking of, how horrifying is the fact that River let Nixon into the TARDIS? I like to imagine that we had an unseen series of adventures where Churchill, Hitler, and Nixon were all companions at the same time. It's the only thing that kept me sane for most of season 6.
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 16:35 |
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I saw the Matt Smith episode of the Sarah Jane Adventures. It was good. My favorite moment is when Jo says that she hopes she hasn't gotten him in trouble with the Time Lords and Matt Smith encompasses his entire reaction in a facial expression that lasts for less than a second. I was actually surprised by Katy Manning, too. I'd sort of figured that she was incapable of talking any way except the way she does on Big Finish (with a whole lot of gravel that sounds like it lines the road for the cigarette truck). She sounded very different on TV.
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 20:43 |
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Full Season 8 trailer Come on August, hurry up!
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 21:09 |
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Dinosaurs! In LONDON! (come on August!)
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 21:13 |
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They're going full Pertwee.
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 21:18 |
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Now he's 2000 years old?
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 21:22 |
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Capaldi is the first new actor that without seeing anything substantial, already feels like the Doctor to me. Like I look at him and my mind says "that's the Doctor" without any question.Davros1 posted:Now he's 2000 years old? Over 1000 years passed in the town called Christmas.
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 21:23 |
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Bicyclops posted:I saw the Matt Smith episode of the Sarah Jane Adventures. It was good. My favorite moment is when Jo says that she hopes she hasn't gotten him in trouble with the Time Lords and Matt Smith encompasses his entire reaction in a facial expression that lasts for less than a second. It might have been nice if Davies could have written a Smith episode. I think he did a pretty good job with him in "Death of the Doctor".
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 21:23 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TivqZTq5u6Y&t=27s That's a turian! Mass Effect crossover? The Doctor vs Commander Shepard? The universe better hide for that one....
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 21:23 |
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Metal Loaf posted:It might have been nice if Davies could have written a Smith episode. I think he did a pretty good job with him in "Death of the Doctor". We're never going to have Capaldi on "The Sarah Jane Adventures."
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 21:27 |
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Davros1 posted:We're never going to have Capaldi on "The Sarah Jane Adventures." You're a jerk.
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 21:29 |
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Rhyno posted:Over 1000 years passed in the town called Christmas. If I recall correctly, the 11th Doctor was already roughly 13-1400 years old by the time they got to that episode, there were significant jumps of time between seasons (and half seasons!). I'm quite happy they finally got themselves firmly out of the 900s, though I still feel that as he noted in Day of the Doctor, he may be lying about his age anyway (he was older than 900 in the 7th Doctor's time!) or just have forgotten how old he actually is. Anyways, I agree that Capaldi has just instantly become "The Doctor" for me without any hesitation or trepidation. Something just seems right about having him in the part.
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 21:29 |
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Kind of expected it, but I'm pretty sad the line isn't actually "Clara be my friend. Am I a good man?" With just Clara Tell Me, it's way less sinister and carries far less weight.
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 21:29 |
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Jerusalem posted:Anyways, I agree that Capaldi has just instantly become "The Doctor" for me without any hesitation or trepidation. Something just seems right about having him in the part. It's kind of magical isn't it? With Ecclestone, Tennant and it took a good chunk of the episode before it really clicked for me. With Smith I think it was 11 minutes in (do everything I say, don't ask stupid questions...) and he was the Doctor. I'm rewatching Night of the Doctor right now and I get a great big smile when I realize that McGann is automatically the Doctor again and I've barely listened to any audio adventures.
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 21:33 |
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I still don't think that Dalek voice is supposed to be anything we've heard before. It sounds separate from Davros, Dalek Caan, and the Time Controller/Prime Minister. I guess they could just have a different voice for Davros, but it sounds pretty far off from any previous version of the character.
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 21:35 |
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Rochallor posted:I still don't think that Dalek voice is supposed to be anything we've heard before. It sounds separate from Davros, Dalek Caan, and the Time Controller/Prime Minister. I guess they could just have a different voice for Davros, but it sounds pretty far off from any previous version of the character. It's definitely Briggsie.
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 21:46 |
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Burkion posted:I like to imagine that we had an unseen series of adventures where Churchill, Hitler, and Nixon were all companions at the same time. It's the only thing that kept me sane for most of season 6. "Ohhh, I keep telling Adolf not to wander off!"
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 22:14 |
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Davros1 posted:It's definitely Briggsie. Yeah, but the thing is that it has a strange (almost philosophical) way of talking. It seems like it is something new and weird and different and I'm looking forward to seeing what that is.
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 22:27 |
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# ? Apr 27, 2024 05:02 |
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Baggins posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TivqZTq5u6Y&t=27s The Doctor meets Renegade FemShep. Book it. (now if you don't mind, I have a Geth/Daleks x-over to write)
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 22:55 |