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Edit: so slow on the draw.Toshimo posted:The Priest exposed the judge who took bribes. The CrazyCopDad was Chief of Police. He approved of the Priest's work and felt bad that he got screwed in the NotRapture.
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Unluckyimmortal posted:Edit: so slow on the draw. I've been back and forth on that. But, probably.
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Jul 14, 2014 17:13
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Ahh, thanks. So I guess Police Chief Dad looked into the judge, and maybe confiscated/stole some of the money the judge had been taking as bribes? Perhaps from evidence? Or maybe Police Chief Dad was also in on it, and set aside the bribe money he was taking out of guilt?
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Jul 14, 2014 17:19
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Far better than the first two episodes but still we are watching people that are completely unlikable which is annoying. Though seeing his wife did make for some sympathy he's an rear end. Still, I'm on board for another episode because I want to see where this is going. Wondering what happened to wife and caretaker situation while Matt was in the hospital. It bugged me that it wasn't resolved or explained during the episode.
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DrBouvenstein posted:A few things I didn't get/missed about the last episode: I thought the beard on the guy in the painting looked like a pigeon (the wing/butt part). Beard -> Pigeon -> Pigeon on the roulette table. I can't see a connection from painting to judge.
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Sten Freak posted:Far better than the first two episodes but still we are watching people that are completely unlikable which is annoying. Though seeing his wife did make for some sympathy he's an rear end. Still, I'm on board for another episode because I want to see where this is going. I think the contrast is that if he hadn't thought to call the caretaker in the middle of the night, his wife would probably be dead. Tiny edit: at the time, I did wonder why he bothered calling the caretaker given that he wasn't going to be gone long, so maybe I just attribute more happy circumstance to that decision than is due. No bid COVID fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Jul 14, 2014 |
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DrBouvenstein posted:Ahh, thanks. My personal suspicion, given the number of circumstantial clues is this: 1: Judge takes bribes 2: Judge takes a drive 3: Judge gets not-raptured while driving 4: Judge's driverless car t-bones Priest+Wife 5: Priest researches Judge, uncovering bribes 6: Priest publishes paper on Judge 7: As Judge has been not-raptured, Grandpa Police Chief turns over the Judge's house and finds the bribe money, but there's nobody left to prosecute, so he pockets it. 8: Before he gets committed, Grandpa Police Chief buries bribe money and tells Priest.
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Jul 14, 2014 17:50
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Max posted:It was also nice to see it was integrated into the opening scene. It makes the car crash more than just a spectacle.  Toshimo posted:My personal suspicion, given the number of circumstantial clues is this:
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Jul 14, 2014 17:52
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Toshimo posted:My personal suspicion, given the number of circumstantial clues is this: It's interesting that we all assumed that the events of "the 14th" caused the former chief to go insane but now it looks like he had enough sense to bury that money after the 14th.
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Jul 14, 2014 18:05
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I loved the conversation with the casino security guy "Now I know what happened to your face" The only real complaint I have about this show so far is that there's too much of that super sad "this is an emotional scene" music
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savinhill posted:I loved the conversation with the casino security guy "Now I know what happened to your face" Speaking of the Casino people, what was up with the size of the Pit Boss's hands?! Dude has built-in catcher's mitts!  Was their a swarm of angry bees on set?
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Jul 14, 2014 18:34
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Jul 14, 2014 18:36
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Anyone know the name of that really haunting track that plays over a lot of the scenes in the first three episodes? Not the one from the trailers, but from the actual episodes. Thanks, my google-fu is apparently broken today.
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ContraceptiveCereal posted:Above all else, I want this mystery solved. Please someone get to the bottom of this. Did anti-histamines disappear during the non-Rapture?
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That episode was a real roller-coaster for me. This show owns. Lindelof owns.
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IMB posted:Anyone know the name of that really haunting track that plays over a lot of the scenes in the first three episodes? Not the one from the trailers, but from the actual episodes. Thanks, my google-fu is apparently broken today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bb0k9HgQxc This might be what you're looking for? Didn't hear it in the two trailers I watched. Some of it sounds really familiar to a song I thought I already knew and I think this is essentially the shows main theme that the other works draw off of. I am really liking the score by Max Richter so far. I was super on the fence about this show for the first two episodes and reading some of the dumb posts here would kind of push me away from it but this last episode really solidified my interest. The whole situation is so beyond hosed that it's a wonder the people we've seen aren't even more broken. A lot of them are seriously misguided in what they are doing but most of the characters that have been explored so far truly believe they are doing the right thing; they are just blind to the fact that what they are doing is seriously harming those around them. There are also characters who are just complete assholes (like the gambler who tried to steal the priest's money in the last episode) but they aren't the point of this show. I agree with all the other posts that say trying to equate this to any real life event is completely insane. This show is the exploration of some very damaged people trying to do good in light of something they can't begin to comprehend. We probably aren't going to get answers about the rapture here and even if we do, it isn't going to be the point.
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tadashi posted:Please someone get to the bottom of this. Did anti-histamines disappear during the non-Rapture? He is Indian/Hispanic so probably a condition of his diabetes
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Jul 14, 2014 19:24
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That episode felt 100% like an episode of LOST without the cut-away to the island events. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
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Professor Shark posted:That episode felt 100% like an episode of LOST without the cut-away to the island events. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. Well, it's a single character focused flashback ala Lost. You see it a lot in literature. Honestly, the dream sequences in The Leftovers remind me a lot of the visions that the ASOIAF books have a lot of but have been mostly cut out of the AGOT tv episodes.
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Jul 14, 2014 19:52
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I don't know the word to describe the scenario, maybe dark irony; but I was sad the GR was only able to buy the church because the priest was not apathetic to the assault on their members. Edit: pretty pretty prettyyyyy good episode.
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I'm excited to see what they do with the place! Are they going to take down the entry sign? Replace it with a lot of periods? Who knows!
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So I get almost all of the dreams/visions the priest had, but what was going on with the one of him in the hospital with the doctor telling him it was spreading? Did I miss something there? Or is that one just not explainable yet? edit: Oh, also, why was the episode titled Two Boats and a Helicopter? That one I'm assuming is just something I missed, but I have no clue what that's supposed to be referring to.
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Jul 14, 2014 20:52
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Rewatch the sermon in the beginning of the episode. That 8 year old boy is him. What we see is a flashback memory. EDIT: And I have no idea! 
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Jul 14, 2014 20:54
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ContraceptiveCereal posted:Rewatch the sermon in the beginning of the episode. That 8 year old boy is him. What we see is a flashback memory. Ah, right. That part totally slipped by me by the time the visions started happening. Thanks.
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thrawn527 posted:edit: Oh, also, why was the episode titled Two Boats and a Helicopter? That one I'm assuming is just something I missed, but I have no clue what that's supposed to be referring to. Desmond's sailboat, Widmore's ship and Faraday's chopper clearly. 
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thrawn527 posted:edit: Oh, also, why was the episode titled Two Boats and a Helicopter? That one I'm assuming is just something I missed, but I have no clue what that's supposed to be referring to. It's a reference to an old Christian joke/story: It was flooding in California. As the flood waters were rising, a man was on the stoop of his house and another man in a row boat came by. The man in the row boat told the man on the stoop to get in and he'd save him. The man on the stoop said, no, he had faith in God and would wait for God to save him. The flood waters kept rising and the man had to go to the second floor of his house. A man in a motor boat came by and told the man in the house to get in because he had come to rescue him. The man in the house said no thank you. He had perfect faith in God and would wait for God to save him. The flood waters kept rising. Pretty soon they were up to the man's roof and he got out on the roof. A helicopter then came by, lowered a rope and the pilot shouted down in the man in the house to climb up the rope because the helicopeter had come to rescue him. The man in the house wouldn't get in. He told the pilot that he had faith in God and would wait for God to rescue him. The flood waters kept rising and the man in the house drowned. When he got to heaven, he asked God where he went wrong. He told God that he had perfect faith in God, but God had let him drown. "What more do you want from me?" asked God. "I sent you two boats and a helicopter."
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thrawn527 posted:edit: Oh, also, why was the episode titled Two Boats and a Helicopter? That one I'm assuming is just something I missed, but I have no clue what that's supposed to be referring to. http://jokes.cc.com/funny-god-jokes/79gtkv/flood-shmud e: drat. Beaten.
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thrawn527 posted:So I get almost all of the dreams/visions the priest had, but what was going on with the one of him in the hospital with the doctor telling him it was spreading? Did I miss something there? Or is that one just not explainable yet? Priest lives in a house on a hill and it starts raining, flood waters going up and up and up. He prays to god for help and nothing happens, but next day a neighbor comes by in a rowboat and asks him to come with. Priest says no, God will save me. Flood water goes higher, priest prays again, nothing. Next day another rowboat comes by and again the priest refuses saying god will save him. Water gets so high the priest is nearly drowning and again he prays. Again, nothing. Little later a rescue copter comes by and the priest refuses saying god will save me. Priest drowns and winds up in heaven and asks god why he didn't answer the prayer. God says hey ya moron, I sent two boats and a helicopter! Point being, the birds were his two boats and helicopter. Efb like the priest during the sermon.
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thrawn527 posted:So I get almost all of the dreams/visions the priest had, but what was going on with the one of him in the hospital with the doctor telling him it was spreading? Did I miss something there? Or is that one just not explainable yet? It would have been easy to miss, but in his opening speech he talks about a little boy that asked god for attention and was then diagnosed with Leukemia. Then he describes the little girl who is in a coma and he says "That little boy is asking for your attention again, please pray for her." He was describing himself. I think that scene was when he was actually diagnosed by the doctor when he was a little boy, just played by adult Eccleston.
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Dirk Pitt posted:I don't know the word to describe the scenario, maybe dark irony; but I was sad the GR was only able to buy the church because the priest was not apathetic to the assault on their members. I think part of the point is the GR save him from himself. Now he has $160k and he no longer needs to be burdened by his crusade if he chooses not to be. I'm not sure if that was by design or just caused by other intentions.
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Max posted:It would have been easy to miss, but in his opening speech he talks about a little boy that asked god for attention and was then diagnosed with Leukemia. Then he describes the little girl who is in a coma and he says "That little boy is asking for your attention again, please pray for her." He was describing himself. I think that scene was when he was actually diagnosed by the doctor when he was a little boy, just played by adult Eccleston. I thought that was pretty obvious, note also how his parents are wearing clothing and hairstyles that would look out of place in 2014.
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Good episode. Priest is the best character so far. the Preview was a season preview and not a next episode preview right?
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I really hope we continue to focus on Matt a good amount throughout the season and he doesn't just sink back into the background. The fact that he wasn't in the preview for next week's episode at all has me worried about that. Hopefully this isn't a George R.R. Martin style "introduce a character to set up a larger conflict only for us to never see that character again."
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Mr. Boogie posted:I really hope we continue to focus on Matt a good amount throughout the season and he doesn't just sink back into the background. The fact that he wasn't in the preview for next week's episode at all has me worried about that. Hopefully this isn't a George R.R. Martin style "introduce a character to set up a larger conflict only for us to never see that character again." Wasn't he the one saying "there is no point in killing these people, they're already dead"? I was keeping an eye out for him to see if we were going to get a resolution to that supremely awesome episode ending look.
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tadashi posted:Well, it's a single character focused flashback ala Lost. You see it a lot in literature. More than that... it felt like the camera work, pacing, everything was out of an episode of LOST. I was waiting for the music the signals the beginning/ending of a flashback. I guess the way that we saw Screaming Mother/ Bar Patron in the flashback contributed to the feel.
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Guy A. Person posted:Wasn't he the one saying "there is no point in killing these people, they're already dead"? I was keeping an eye out for him to see if we were going to get a resolution to that supremely awesome episode ending look. Oh maybe. I didn't watch the long preview that aired after the broadcast, but the HBO Go version had a shorter preview presumably just for next week's episode, and that one didn't feature Matt at all, unless I missed something.
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I watched this episode again. I like it even more the second time. Matt's character seems like the most interesting to investigate in the scenario the show sets up. A man who's entire belief system is presented with undeniable proof that something is actually out there, and watching him do everything he can to ignore it is pretty amazing.
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I got some serious Reverend H.W. Smith (Deadwood) vibes from the priest this episode. Everyone trying to talk him down all the time and he keeps ratcheting it up. Similar circumstances surrounding both characters as well. The both live in places where for all intents and purposes, god is dead.
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