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fullroundaction posted:e: Also he probably thinks to go gamble because earlier in the episode the father of the kid he baptized tells him a story about a coworker that used to go to the casinos, etc. God tests Job, a righteous man, by withdrawing his protection and allowing the devil to thoroughly screw him over in horrible ways (he loses his children, livelihood, health, etc...). Despite the apparent injustice and total lack of explanation for his misfortunes, Job remains obedient to God. God ultimately rewards Job for his devotion by doubling Job's wealth. Ersatz fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Jul 15, 2014 |
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Ersatz posted:It's also important that the painting that he contemplates when inspiration strikes depicts Job. Pretty sure you're overthinking this, the pigeons told him to do it. Now whether they are telepathic or what will probably be explained later on.
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Jul 15, 2014 05:22
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El Murguista posted:Pretty sure you're overthinking this, the pigeons told him to do it.
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Jul 15, 2014 05:34
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Ersatz posted:The parallels throughout this episode to Job are obvious.
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Jul 15, 2014 05:40
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Sober posted:I think he was being facetious.
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Jul 15, 2014 05:49
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To take it back on track, I'm actually curious what the next episode is about, exactly. Critics seemed to have gotten screeners for 1,2,3 and 5 but not 4. I've heard rumours they had to re-shoot 4. But just rumours, not really sure if that was true. Or perhaps there's something just big enough that needed to be kept back (for some reason or another), except that it's not really addressed in episode 5 anyway (critics were specifically told so).
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Jul 15, 2014 05:53
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Weren't critics saying one of the episodes was especially good? Was it the one that just aired? The character-centric episode reminds me a lot of Lindelof's work on Lost. He is a so adept at writing interestingly about "ordinary" (for lack of a better word) people. I may be in the minority here but some of my favorite parts of Lost were off-island backstories that really fleshed out the characters. Those were always pretty exceptional.
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Jul 15, 2014 06:11
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thathonkey posted:Weren't critics saying one of the episodes was especially good? Was it the one that just aired? The AV Club's pre-pilot writeup of the series specifically pointed out yesterday's episode as the one where it goes from 'has promise' to 'genuinely good'.
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Jul 15, 2014 06:25
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I wonder if we're going to get a dose of how the rest of the world responded to the rapture at some point. Obviously The Guilty Remnant operate with the same basic M.O. of the Westboro Baptist Church: push people enough to piss them off, but operate within the bounds of free speech. Is it different, for instance, in the UK and other EU countries where hate speech is designated as wrong and criminal?
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Jul 15, 2014 06:53
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fullroundaction posted:Eccleston's accent is so bad I have a hard time taking him seriously. They should't have tried to make him talk american. He's really struggling, and his acting is taking a hit because of it.
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Jul 15, 2014 09:35
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I didn't think his accent was that bad. It's just jarring to hear because I'm used to him as the Doctor. This was the first episode I really enjoyed. I was on the fence about giving up on this show, now I guess I will stick around.
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Jul 15, 2014 12:13
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Almost every time goons complain about someones American accent being horrible I almost always think "wait, he was using a fake accent and it was bad?" It almost never jumps out at me. Even when I know that's not the actors real accent. Just be accepting of how people sound. Stop being so voice soundist.
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Jul 15, 2014 12:45
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Fateo McMurray posted:Almost every time goons complain about someones American accent being horrible I almost always think "wait, he was using a fake accent and it was bad?" You may as well ask them to just stop being goons.
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Jul 15, 2014 13:20
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Ersatz posted:The parallels throughout this episode to Job are obvious. Serious talk I've never read the Bible so these sorts of insights greatly help my enjoyment of the show. thathonkey posted:The character-centric episode reminds me a lot of Lindelof's work on Lost. He is a so adept at writing interestingly about "ordinary" (for lack of a better word) people. I may be in the minority here but some of my favorite parts of Lost were off-island backstories that really fleshed out the characters. Those were always pretty exceptional. Wholeheartedly agree, I'd even go so far as to say the priest resembles Locke in a couple ways. Or possibly an anti-Locke, as your first impression of Locke is he's a badass and his weaknesses are exposed over time, while the priest is probably is on his way to becoming a stone cold killer.
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Jul 15, 2014 14:04
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I'm wondering if that intense look between Eccleston and the GR leader is indicative of conflict that will play out over the season - I hope so because so far Eccleston is the best part of this show. He was fantastic in the episode (and yes, his accent was terrible).
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El Murguista posted:
And they both struggle with faith despite things like having their spine healed and pigeons helping them win$160k.
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Jul 15, 2014 14:11
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Here is the best thing Christoper Eccleston has ever done https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LW0g0YFgOk He's great in everything.
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Jul 15, 2014 14:16
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Promoted Pawn posted:The AV Club's pre-pilot writeup of the series specifically pointed out yesterday's episode as the one where it goes from 'has promise' to 'genuinely good'.
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Mister Blueberry posted:They should't have tried to make him talk american. He's really struggling, and his acting is taking a hit because of it. what the gently caress does this even mean
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Jul 15, 2014 14:47
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Yaoi Mandel posted:what the gently caress does this even mean His characterization of Matt is suffering because he's spending too much effort trying to sound American (which he can't) instead of just acting (which he can). Think: Littlefinger from GoT
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Jul 15, 2014 14:53
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Goons are seriously retarded
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I agree that Eccleston's accent is a little wonky but it isn't noticeable enough to take me out of a scene or anything. He just sounds like a dude from Maine or up east to me.  I think the Aidan Gillen comparisons are unfair since Eccleston's accent hasn't danced around the entire Anglosphere yet.
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Jul 15, 2014 14:59
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There is no way you can compare Eccleston's American accent to Littlefinger's mush mouth constantly changing accent. Eccleston sounds fine.
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I must not have a good ear for accents because I'm in the "his accent sounds fine" camp. Granted, I'm an American so it's hard for me to really pinpoint the specifics of what makes an American accent. Is there anyone in this thread who may not have been familiar with Eccleston prior to this show? I'd be curious what their thoughts on the accent would be. Also supporting that even if it is not perfect it's nowhere near as bad as Aiden Gillan's dramatic accent changes as Littlefinger.
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Eccleston's accent was a little wonky, like someone said, but I wouldn't go further than "a little". Plus I'm used to him using the same accent for almost 10 years now so it's a big shock. More than that, though, is why he even needed the accent in the first place? Couldn't his character have just been British?
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Jul 15, 2014 15:08
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I'm not so sure if his character could have been British, I guess it will depend on how things develop. If he was British on the show he would feel like an outsider to the town which seems to be the opposite of what they want. By having him have an American you can assume he grew up in that environment and in turn adds to his motivation to maintain the status quo of the church.
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Jul 15, 2014 15:15
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If you're listening, you can hear his native accent while he speaks, but it's not bad / it stopped bothering me by the time he baptized the baby. And his acting is great, I don't know how you could think he would let something small like an accent get in the way of that.
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I don't think it's a game changer or anything, he just sounds like someone recovering for a mild stroke to me. I guess I'm on the opposite side of things where I can't see how it wouldn't bother people that a professional actor fails to sound like a normal person.
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fullroundaction posted:I don't think it's a game changer or anything, he just sounds like someone recovering for a mild stroke to me. I guess I'm on the opposite side of things where I can't see how it wouldn't bother people that a professional actor fails to sound like a normal person. To each their own. Eccleston's best acting has always been done on his face anyway. He's very emotive.
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Yeah Eccleston's face honestly carried this episode. That loving grin when he gets red for the third time.
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lifts cats over head posted:I'm not so sure if his character could have been British, I guess it will depend on how things develop. If he was British on the show he would feel like an outsider to the town which seems to be the opposite of what they want. By having him have an American you can assume he grew up in that environment and in turn adds to his motivation to maintain the status quo of the church. He can't be British because he's Nora's brother. Can't have one American sibling, one British. Anyway, his accent was jarring in the beginning but I agree that his superior acting and emotive face made up for it halfway thru the episode. I sincerely hope he doesn't fade back into the background.
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I loved when he beat down the would-be thief. I took the bait for him getting the money stolen after all that hook-line-and-sinker and it was a very pleasant surprise to see him bounce back from it. On an unrelated note I wish I hadn't read Theroux's personal quotes section on IMDB because his IRL douchiness may interfere with my enjoyment of his performance.
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Yaoi Mandel posted:Goons are seriously retarded Truest post in this thread god drat. It didn't take me out of the episode at all and thinking about it I actually really enjoy it. It's a bit off but so is the character.
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lifts cats over head posted:Is there anyone in this thread who may not have been familiar with Eccleston prior to this show? I'd be curious what their thoughts on the accent would be. This is the first thing I've ever seen him in and I didn't notice his accent at all until I came into this thread and it was all accent talk.
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Just read that IMDB page and saw that his cousin is Louis Theroux. Don't know what point I'm making but cool anyway.
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I never noticed any accent problems and i rewatched some of the latest episode after reading the spergfest going on itt and still didnt notice anything off so i am gonna have to go with goons being goons. Why are all HBO show threads so loving terrible?
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Its not just here, the general chat thread has super long posts about why the premise is bad and the show is therefore bad and usually in the middle of these posts is the phrase "Now, I've only seen the pilot but" and i just want to punch these people
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hahah you're literally talking about one single post
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Bown posted:Yeah Eccleston's face honestly carried this episode. That loving grin when he gets red for the third time. That was the only part where it being Eccleston shook my suspension of disbelief; when he did that I couldn't help but hear "Just this once, everyone lives!" That's totally my problem and isn't a knock on his performance though.
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