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My hometown paper, which unfortunately is also Scott Lively's hometown paper, had an article about Oliver's segment featuring some choice quotes from Lively http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2014/07/springfield_pastor_scott_livel.html quote:"I find it funny that lefties like John Oliver who pose as humanitarians are the masters at dehumanizing other people through ridicule and never give the subjects of their smears a fair chance to respond," said Lively. "Oliver is lying through selective editing. ... His show was one continuous stream of malicious LGBT propaganda in the guise of comedy."
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Kevyn posted:My hometown paper, which unfortunately is also Scott Lively's hometown paper, had an article about Oliver's segment featuring some choice quotes from Lively Yup, that christian guy's still a douchebag. Does Pepe feel he is a man, or does she feel she's a woman? I kinda assumed Pepe was a she and all the he's in the article seemed rather rude.
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Jul 2, 2014 05:44
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Drifter posted:Yup, that christian guy's still a douchebag. FtM, so he's a he, as is his preference.
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Jul 2, 2014 06:06
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Kevyn posted:
The Bugle would certainly show otherwise.
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Jul 2, 2014 06:45
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I wish he'd take him up on that offer. Except I suspect that Lively's strategy would just be to shout over the top of Oliver whenever he made a point.
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Jul 2, 2014 10:31
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MikeJF posted:I wish he'd take him up on that offer. On the one hand, that guy clearly has no idea what he's in for. On the other, not only is he not worth the time or attention but I doubt he would actually go on the show if invited since that reply sounds like the usual right-wing bloviating that whoever is his voting base will eat up unquestionably like so much poopoo. It's pretty loving  that this guy of all loving people is crying about being dehumanized through misleading information, though.
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Jul 2, 2014 13:01
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raditts posted:On the one hand, that guy clearly has no idea what he's in for. Given the absolute insane reach that this show seems to have, he really doesn't have any idea what he's in for.
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Jul 2, 2014 15:21
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Funny, we had a segment of this show dedicated to the point that one on one debates with people with fringe views is disingenuous and unproductive. The "unscripted, unedited debate" is a favorite tactic of supporters of fringe beliefs: young earth creationists, climate change strangers, and extreme homophobes like this guy. The strategy is to unleash a torrent of bullshit so rapid that your opponent can't refute all of it, which lets you claim that they "don't have all the answers". It's a win-win situation: you get publicity, to pander to your base, and if the opponent gets a good burn on you, you just get to claim you're the victim of the liberal intolerance propaganda machine or whatever.
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Jul 2, 2014 15:48
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Lively is an awful human being but Uganda almost had the death penalty for its LGBT citizens and I can believe that Lively didn't support that because that's insane even by normal bigot standards.
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Jul 2, 2014 16:09
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Kevyn posted:My hometown paper, which unfortunately is also Scott Lively's hometown paper, had an article about Oliver's segment featuring some choice quotes from Lively The hilarious bit about this is that either the article omitted them (which is then on them rather than Oliver), or Lively never actually bothered to counter anything in Oliver's rant other than the fact that he had made the rant and painted Lively negatively. I mean geez, this will sound weird, but Bill O'Reilly at least when called out on his bullshit can at least be bothered to try and specifically counter points raised against him. Here, what is Lively actually saying other than 'John was mean and tried to paint me like I'm crazy'?
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Jul 2, 2014 16:44
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Soylentbits posted:Lively is an awful human being but Uganda almost had the death penalty for its LGBT citizens and I can believe that Lively didn't support that because that's insane even by normal bigot standards. He was hardly the only one that went over there and encouraged that poo poo, IIRC quite a few congressmen that are part of that creepy "C Street" mini-cult played a part too. It's not that insane at all, it's a regular right-wing tactic. Go all extreme and spout out a bunch of crazy poo poo to get your audience all riled up and scared, then when one of them is inspired by you to commit murder you wring your hands and go all "oh no, that isn't what I meant at all, I have no part in this tragic event." See also: that piece of poo poo Bill O'Reilly and his "Tiller the Baby Killer" meme. Wikipedia posted:Tiller was also discussed in 28 episodes of the Fox News talk show The O'Reilly Factor before his death in May 2009, focusing national attention on his practice. Although he later denied it, show host Bill O'Reilly sometimes described him as "Tiller the Baby Killer," a nickname that Congressman Robert K. Dornan had used on the floor of the US House of Representatives. O'Reilly said he would not want to be Tiller, Kathleen Sebelius, and other pro-choice Kansas politicians "if there is a judgment day."[8] On November 3, 2006, O'Reilly featured an exclusive segment on The O'Reilly Factor, saying that he had an "inside source" with official clinic documentation indicating that Tiller performed late-term abortions to alleviate "temporary depression" in pregnant woman.[9] He characterized the doctor as "a savage on the loose, killing babies willy-nilly," and accused him of "operating a death mill," and of protecting the rapists of children. He suggested that Tiller performed abortions for women who had "a bit of a headache or anxiety" or who felt "a bit blue."[10] Don't defend these vile loving wastes of humanity.
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raditts posted:He was hardly the only one that went over there and encouraged that poo poo, IIRC quite a few congressmen that are part of that creepy "C Street" mini-cult played a part too. It's not that insane at all, it's a regular right-wing tactic. Go all extreme and spout out a bunch of crazy poo poo to get your audience all riled up and scared, then when one of them is inspired by you to commit murder you wring your hands and go all "oh no, that isn't what I meant at all, I have no part in this tragic event." ...drat, I take back what I said. I mean, yeah he sometimes defends himself but... Jesus loving Christ. Wasn't aware of this.
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Jul 2, 2014 20:31
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Japan: Nothing but blood colored school girls. HOLY poo poo! AKB48 IS MILITARY PROPAGANDA!
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Jul 14, 2014 04:02
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Good to know sexting transcends time
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Jul 14, 2014 04:04
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Top That JFK and Clinton.
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Jul 14, 2014 04:05
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Good old Jerry and his love letters
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Jul 14, 2014 04:07
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Liberals: Pure grammar NAZIS
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Jul 14, 2014 04:08
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This is America!!
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Jul 14, 2014 04:10
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I know income inequality and how impossible it is to discuss is a serious problem, but I'm still stuck on the fact that a man literally named "Harding" didn't use that when naming his penis.
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Jul 14, 2014 04:18
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drat this is depressing
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Jul 14, 2014 04:24
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How big of a bubble do you live in where that is shocking? Edit: i'm talking about the gently caress hat Guy segment. BigRed0427 fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Jul 14, 2014 |
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Jul 14, 2014 04:25
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BigRed0427 posted:How big of a bubble do you live in where that is shocking? I know but it's depressing being reminded. Also gently caress that guy
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Jul 14, 2014 04:26
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#BetterCIATweets has already got some great stuff.
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Jul 14, 2014 14:30
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My office does some very limited estate planning work (writing basic wills and trusts) for some of our clients. It's amazing how many people (old people) ask about the "death tax". Do you have more than five million dollars? No? Then don't worry about it.
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Jul 14, 2014 19:37
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SO with that beer/FIFA story, did anything actually happen as a result of it? Were there riots or murders in Brazil beyond the norm? I don't remember hearing anything about it. Seems like it went off and was okay. But I guess you gotta followup your jokes.
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Jul 14, 2014 20:19
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I found the plane!
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Jul 14, 2014 22:17
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:#BetterCIATweets has already got some great stuff.   Really enjoying the freeform nature of the show. Longform segments are awesome and they're clearly having fun ignoring structure and just spending as much time as they need for solid jokes and well presented arguments. Ape Agitator fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Jul 14, 2014 |
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Jul 14, 2014 23:15
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Ape Agitator posted:
And then finally if a breather is needed, "And now, this." Because gently caress that guy. An article I found suspected that part of what may be helping John succeed is that he uses his British origins as a means of self-deprecation, both bringing him down whilst also introducing how certain aspects of American society seem from an outside perspective. The bit where he explains on how Britons tend to know roughly what class they're in and base their plans ahead on that (though there is some social mobility, as my own parents have proved) is a good example of both at the same time.
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Jul 14, 2014 23:56
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Postal Parcel posted:Japan: Nothing but blood colored school girls. Simpsons did it.
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Jul 15, 2014 02:22
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Even though the show is very similar to Daily Show, I am still surprised how quickly Oliver found his groove hosting the show and finding a tone. He basically hit the ground running.
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Jul 15, 2014 08:35
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I'm an american who spent two years living in London for university and I was crying in laugher watching the last episode. It is hard to overstate just how different america treats class. I remember drinking with several british friends and asking how you define class. Because in america, we all know what to say - money defines it. But my british friend, solidly middle class, said it was entirely related to where your parents were. Parents poor? You're poor, even if you have a million quid in the bank. "What if I won the lottery?" I asked. "Then you're a fluke." "What if I got into a new industry at EXACTLY the right time, and hopped onto an economic boom?" "Well, if you made lots of money, maybe you could send your kids to better schools. Then THEY would be able to change their 'class.' "
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Jul 15, 2014 11:20
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ufarn posted:Even though the show is very similar to Daily Show, I am still surprised how quickly Oliver found his groove hosting the show and finding a tone. He hit the ground running in part because he's basically settled into making a video version of the Bugle, which is the best possible thing he could've done.
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Jul 15, 2014 12:00
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gently caress that guy is only a couple steps removed from a fuckeulogy
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Jul 15, 2014 13:07
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Narcissus1916 posted:I'm an american who spent two years living in London for university and I was crying in laugher watching the last episode. Also if you become poor you are still always upper class. Which the temporary-embarrassed American millionaires need to learn. It would improve America.
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Jul 15, 2014 15:35
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Joliver: "And now this." Narrator: "And now..." Annoys me every time. But the show is still great.
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Jul 15, 2014 16:07
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The cutaway segments are there in place of the commercial breaks a broadcast/basic cable show would have. He has to say something or the cutaway would be sort of awkward.
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Jul 15, 2014 16:14
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sbaldrick posted:Also if you become poor you are still always upper class. Which the temporary-embarrassed American millionaires need to learn. It would improve America. Snooty rich AND snooty poors? America couldn't stand it.
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Jul 15, 2014 16:36
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hcreight posted:The cutaway segments are there in place of the commercial breaks a broadcast/basic cable show would have. He has to say something or the cutaway would be sort of awkward. So you just have the cutaway video not say "and now..." and you get the best of both worlds, right?
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Jul 15, 2014 16:46
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John ALSO had experience hosting The Daily Show for that bunch of time, although he went into that as effectively as he did LWT as well. He's just a really great performer.
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I started listening to old episodes of The Bugle because I can't get enough of this show. It's great but I'm already a little bored of Andy making stuff up. Talking out of his rear end (obviously so; he isn't trying to actually make us believe these things) is like his main source of humor.
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