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mind the walrus posted:It was like one off-hand line about the PDA he was using. Sue or someone asks him why he doesn't market the PDA and he says "Sony paid me $300 million dollars not to release it to the public." Ah, now that seems familiar Rhyno posted:I know it's not the same story but this is how I want Ben to look at all times I think that is the same story actually EDIT: I think he ended up wearing a pinky ring with an absurdly large diamond as well EDIT x2: It's basically Reed in a nutshell - he isn't the kind of rear end in a top hat who will steal from you; he makes certain you get your fair share. He's just enough of an rear end in a top hat that you don't rate as important enough to be told about your fair share. EDIT x3: wow, more I think about it that really is Reed. "It's important because it impacts how I view myself, whether I give you what you deserve/whether I feel guilt for your transformation into a monster. But impacting your actual quality of life? eh, gently caress it." Fried Chicken fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Jul 16, 2014 |
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Rhyno posted:I know it's not the same story but this is how I want Ben to look at all times I can only hope he changed his codename to Scrooge McBrick.
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Jul 16, 2014 04:57
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Fried Chicken posted:Nope. He just opens a channel between the target and the source, he isn't the source himself. In keeping with Newton's 3rd Law the force is felt by the emitter in the other dimension and the target, not by him So... whenever he blinks, the inside of his eyelids are getting constantly punched?
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Jul 16, 2014 05:07
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As stupid as that sounds I'd genuinely like to see him say that he feels that after Logan bitches about how popping his claws hurts.
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Jul 16, 2014 05:09
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Bobulus posted:I think this was the plot of one of those Exiles-type alternate worlds. On that world, they convinced Cyclops or someone like him to voluntarily sacrifice the rest of his life to become a clean energy source. What's one life for the all the lives that will be saved and all the pollution that won't happen and all that? And then when he wears out, they ask the same thing of the next hero with a similar power and so on and so forth until they start getting greedy and run out of powered-people and then start pulling duplicate Cyclops out of other dimensions and pretty soon you've got a dystopia. So you're saying they hit peak Cyclops? 
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Jul 16, 2014 06:21
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"I'm keeping it warm with my face" 
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Jul 16, 2014 09:23
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MikeJF posted:A good proportion of mutants could solve the planet's energy crises solo. This is what Genosha was doing with their nerve-stapled "mutates". (At least, that's what I remember from when Genosha first appeared.)
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Jul 16, 2014 13:40
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Boogaloo Shrimp posted:So... whenever he blinks, the inside of his eyelids are getting constantly punched? Sure, but Cyclops is immune to the effects of his own beams, because his body naturally generates a psionic field attuned to the blasts frequency, allowing him to absorb them without harm. That's also why he and Alex (his brother) are immune to each other's blasts, they share the same frequency. He uses a visor made of ruby quartz because that material resonates at the same frequency as his body's psionic field, allowing it to likewise absorb the blasts without damage. He isn't completely immune to Vulcan's powers, though, maybe because the space-travel and growth acceleration caused some sort of frequency drift?
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Jul 16, 2014 14:58
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Ashcans posted:Sure, but Cyclops is immune to the effects of his own beams, because his body naturally generates a psionic field attuned to the blasts frequency, allowing him to absorb them without harm. That's also why he and Alex (his brother) are immune to each other's blasts, they share the same frequency. He uses a visor made of ruby quartz because that material resonates at the same frequency as his body's psionic field, allowing it to likewise absorb the blasts without damage. Why does so much gobbledygook have to get written to explain a dude shooting eye beams?
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Jul 16, 2014 16:10
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Because the target audience is nerds.
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Jul 16, 2014 16:11
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Bakanogami posted:Why does so much gobbledygook have to get written to explain a dude shooting eye beams? Because as you can see in this very thread, people can't suspend their disbelief and must have a complicated explanation as to how Newton's Laws can be reconciled with comicbook powers.
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Jul 16, 2014 16:34
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Fried Chicken posted:Nope. He just opens a channel between the target and the source, he isn't the source himself. In keeping with Newton's 3rd Law the force is felt by the emitter in the other dimension and the target, not by him Yeah except Scott has used his optic blasts to slow his fall so his beams have to exert force back on his face.
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Jul 16, 2014 16:42
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It tends to get way too ridiculous but you do need some kind of explanation for what's going on or there won't be any rules or limitations to what the characters can do. "Oh no, there's a tornado! Well I'll use my eyebeams to vapourize it!" "Oh no, there's a fire! Well I'll use my eyebeams to smother it!" "Oh no, this Senator has anti-mutant views! Well I'll use my eyebeams to hypnotize him!"
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Jul 16, 2014 16:43
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Lobok posted:It tends to get way too ridiculous but you do need some kind of explanation for what's going on or there won't be any rules or limitations to what the characters can do. I believe you've just describe Magneto.
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Jul 16, 2014 16:54
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Lobok posted:It tends to get way too ridiculous but you do need some kind of explanation for what's going on or there won't be any rules or limitations to what the characters can do. "The Silver Age".
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AdjectiveNoun posted:Because as you can see in this very thread, people can't suspend their disbelief and must have a complicated explanation as to how Newton's Laws can be reconciled with comicbook powers. The explanation is actually quite simple: Newton was a mutant.
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Jul 16, 2014 17:12
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Chaos Hippy posted:The explanation is actually quite simple: Newton was a mutant. Newtant
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Jul 16, 2014 17:31
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Pretty sure Scott has used the concussive force of his beams to put out a fire at least once, might have been in one of the cartoons though.
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Lobok posted:It tends to get way too ridiculous but you do need some kind of explanation for what's going on or there won't be any rules or limitations to what the characters can do. But there aren't limitations on what they can do. They'll just get a new set of rules if a writer wants powers to do something else. And it's not like you can't set limitations without defined rules. It's far weirder that they have such an intrinsic understanding of how a mutation works when they're completely random.
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^^ Obviously with a serial medium that uses a revolving cast of creators nothing is going to stay set I'm stone but my point still stands. Readers and writers alike have to know on some level what to expect so you get explanations for how things work.Vengeance of Pandas posted:Pretty sure Scott has used the concussive force of his beams to put out a fire at least once, might have been in one of the cartoons though. You could, really. Concussive force could push away the oxygen or if the fire is small enough the blast could smother it. But yeah I knew from the example of Magneto that someone mentioned that my ideas probably weren't going to be all that far-off.
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Jul 16, 2014 18:20
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from today's Ms. Marvel #6:
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Vengeance of Pandas posted:Pretty sure Scott has used the concussive force of his beams to put out a fire at least once, might have been in one of the cartoons though. In the post-9/11 Spider-Man comic, there's a panel where Cyclops is seen doing something that looks like welding I-beams. Or maybe cutting through them, but still. 
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prefect posted:In the post-9/11 Spider-Man comic, there's a panel where Cyclops is seen doing something that looks like welding I-beams. Or maybe cutting through them, but still. They probably just did it for the pun.
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Jul 16, 2014 18:35
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Does anyone have that drawing of the head of zombie Cyclops flying via eye-beam?
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Kramjacks posted:They probably just did it for the pun.  (Yes, I didn't even realize it until you pointed it out.  )
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My biggest personal pet peeve is when powers are so ill defined that someone like, say, Ice man can have trouble fighting a guy with a flamethrower one issue, and then freeze an overheating moon-sized spaceship's thermonuclear reactor 20 issues later by trying really hard. It feels like the writers sometimes treat the powersets the way certain people treat rules in an RPG: as something to exploit. "Where does it say specifically that Iceman can't extinguish a sun?"
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I always enjoyed Magneto for taking pretty a pretty simple but vague power to the nth level. Even the early straightforward understanding of ferromagnetism would introduce wacky applications like controlling the iron in people's blood, but I can just imagine the excitement of the first writer who remembered his basic physics and realized that the electromagnetic force is involved with anything and everything.
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Lurdiak posted:My biggest personal pet peeve is when powers are so ill defined that someone like, say, Ice man can have trouble fighting a guy with a flamethrower one issue, and then freeze an overheating moon-sized spaceship's thermonuclear reactor 20 issues later by trying really hard. It feels like the writers sometimes treat the powersets the way certain people treat rules in an RPG: as something to exploit. "Where does it say specifically that Iceman can't extinguish a sun?" The major problem is having these things be continually ongoing stories/worlds. Eventually, it just makes narrative sense to have Punch-man overcome his fears and PUNCH THE UNPUNCHABLE ROCK, but then afterwords when you've got to tell more stories with the guy it's hard to deal with the fact that you had him overcome Thing which is The Ultimate Thing to Overcome.
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theflyingorc posted:The major problem is having these things be continually ongoing stories/worlds. Eventually, it just makes narrative sense to have Punch-man overcome his fears and PUNCH THE UNPUNCHABLE ROCK, but then afterwords when you've got to tell more stories with the guy it's hard to deal with the fact that you had him overcome Thing which is The Ultimate Thing to Overcome. That's a really bad example because that's basically all OPM is.
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Lurdiak posted:My biggest personal pet peeve is when powers are so ill defined that someone like, say, Ice man can have trouble fighting a guy with a flamethrower one issue, and then freeze an overheating moon-sized spaceship's thermonuclear reactor 20 issues later by trying really hard. It feels like the writers sometimes treat the powersets the way certain people treat rules in an RPG: as something to exploit. "Where does it say specifically that Iceman can't extinguish a sun?" The one that always gets me was Superman in the end of the World War III arc of Justice League where they fly off to fight Mageddon, and Superman flies to the core of Mageddon. "Maggedon is powered by an Anti-Sun. I can absorb Sunlight, why not Anti-Sunlight?" It would be like me saying "I can touch matter? Why not touch Anti-matter."
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One-Punch Man punched the unpunchable issue one and it's been great for ages! EDIT: Goddamnit Senor Candle!
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Archyduke posted:from today's Ms. Marvel #6: Absolutely unrealistic. There's no way in hell the most upvoted fanfic wouldn't have been Scott and Logan reconciling their differences with sex.
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Senor Candle posted:That's a really bad example because that's basically all OPM is. I did not know this was a thing, and am upset at my own example. My point still stands - there are limited options of what you can do if you want your character to SUCCEED AGAINST ALL ODDS, and then they have to go and be normal(ish) bros.
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zoux posted:Also from MM#6 I'm sorry, but that's lame as gently caress.
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AnonSpore posted:Absolutely unrealistic. There's no way in hell the most upvoted fanfic wouldn't have been Scott and Logan reconciling their differences with sex. Omegaverse Cyclops 
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theflyingorc posted:I did not know this was a thing, and am upset at my own example. Someone's not a John Cena fan.
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mind the walrus posted:I'm sorry, but that's lame as gently caress. I've only read the first issue of that series, but from the context I don't think it's supposed to be a cool, hip pop culture reference. She's a dork, and that's adorable.
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Phylodox posted:I've only read the first issue of that series, but from the context I don't think it's supposed to be a cool, hip pop culture reference. She's a dork, and that's adorable. I don't think you understand, I am a cultured adult and I hate memes very much, and letting everyone know I hate memes is very important to my self-image because
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Lurdiak posted:I don't think you understand, I am a cultured adult and I hate memes very much, and letting everyone know I hate memes is very important to my self-image because This but seriously 
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