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Just finished Thud!. Now I only have Snuff left and I hear bad things from you guys.  Wonder what I should read after finishing the Watch...I have always enjoyed the appearances of Death...
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VagueRant posted:Just finished Thud!. Now I only have Snuff left and I hear bad things from you guys. Besides the big stuff, the oddest thing to stick with me from that book is the swearing. I think there were a couple of places wear a person would use a swear word they hadn't used before, including Sybil. It felt kind of out of place. I might be misremembering, though, it's been a while.
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Nihilarian posted:Snuff is basically a highlight reel of other Discworld books, and it has a few big problems. Isn't swearing a peculiar thing when it comes to established characters in a story? It's probably the quickest immersion breaker in any story for me. It took me a while to get used to Rinsewind's "poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo" line because he never seems to say the word outside of that "string" Zephyrine fucked around with this message at 09:18 on Jul 19, 2014 |
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Jul 19, 2014 09:13
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Zephyrine posted:Isn't swearing a peculiar thing when it comes to established characters in a story? It's probably the quickest immersion breaker in any story for me. But then again, we all have our moments. My sister never swears but once I heard say the F word. It happens. Emotions get the best of you.
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I recently re-read Monstrous Regiment and there's a passage in it where they're communicating with the enemy by morse code using the tube thingy:quote:Blouse held the code book up to his face, his lips moving as he read by the pinpoints of light escaping from the joints of the box. Am I being thick, but what do the messages mean? I get the first one is "Where are you? Message poor" but I'm stumped on the others and it's bugging the poo poo out of me.
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Jul 19, 2014 15:46
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Zephyrine posted:Isn't swearing a peculiar thing when it comes to established characters in a story? It's probably the quickest immersion breaker in any story for me. The thing in Snuff is that nobody is on their home ground. Vimes, Willkins, and Sybil are all on unfamiliar ground. Sybil is reverting to behaviors learned in childhood, and the other two are out of their element in the country, dealing with people they never deal with and situations unfamiliar. Add to that that they're supposed to be on holiday, and I really wasn't surprised that they're acting, and speaking, strangely.
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Jul 19, 2014 16:15
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mllaneza posted:The thing in Snuff is that nobody is on their home ground. Vimes, Willkins, and Sybil are all on unfamiliar ground. Sybil is reverting to behaviors learned in childhood, and the other two are out of their element in the country, dealing with people they never deal with and situations unfamiliar. Add to that that they're supposed to be on holiday, and I really wasn't surprised that they're acting, and speaking, strangely. Sorry I'm working my way through Jingo so I can't read more. I'll respond properly once I finish Snuff.
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Jul 19, 2014 16:26
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Zephyrine posted:It took me a while to get used to Rinsewind's "poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo" line because he never seems to say the word outside of that "string"
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youtube commenter posted:I recently re-read Monstrous Regiment and there's a passage in it where they're communicating with the enemy by morse code using the tube thingy: NVASN is "invasion". No idea on the others.
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Jul 19, 2014 17:27
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Given that NVASN is called out as not being code, I imagine that SPP2 and TYE3 on the contrary are, and Blouse is getting the meaning out of their captured code book.
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Jul 19, 2014 22:45
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Who would win in a fight between Sam Vimes and the Luggage?
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Sam. posted:Who would win in a fight between Sam Vimes and the Luggage? Vimes. The luggage lost to Cohen the Barbarian after all.
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I tried to explain discworld to a coworker. I figured a good example would be Hogfather. This is how the conversation went: Zephyrine: So this guy is tasked with assassinating Santa Clause. He does it by kidnapping the tooth fairy and then using the collected children's teeth to take control of the children of the world and make them stop believing in Santa. If no one really believes in Santa then he doesn't exist which is the same as killing him Nina(coworker): Oh? sounds like that Tim Allen movie Zephyrine: What? No. It's nothing like that movie. This guy has to play santa in order to restore the children's belie... Never mind She's such a bitch.
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Jul 20, 2014 10:32
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Should have mentioned the Hogfather was to do with paganism and the slaughter of the hunt man. And the secondary story of Wizards and their crazy automated shower!
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Jul 20, 2014 13:43
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SeanBeansShako posted:Should have mentioned the Hogfather was to do with paganism and the slaughter of the hunt man. And the secondary story of Wizards and their crazy automated shower! Baby steps. This is a girl who collects motivational poster pictures on her cellphone and then shows them to people at work. And not like a quick one on break. She stops people in the middle of working and then start a slide show. Laughing herself at every one until you physically break away from her and return to working.
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I just found out there was a TV adaptation of Going Postal, with Charles Dance as Vetinari no less. Is it any good? I know they did Hogfather and apparently the Colour of Magic, but I haven't heard much about the quality of the Sky adaptations. Also totally forgot that the next book on my listening list after Snuff should probably be Small Gods.
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Jul 20, 2014 14:47
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VagueRant posted:I just found out there was a TV adaptation of Going Postal, with Charles Dance as Vetinari no less. Is it any good? I know they did Hogfather and apparently the Colour of Magic, but I haven't heard much about the quality of the Sky adaptations. It's ok. A little rushed and changed a bit. The visuals are nice. 
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Jul 20, 2014 15:03
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VagueRant posted:Charles Dance as Vetinari no less. That's.... perfect. I have only seen the cartoons so far. Soul Music and Wyrd Sisters. Kind of odd choices in my opinion. If I had picked two books to make into "movies" then I would probably have gone with "Men at Arms" and "Mort" not because they are my favourites by any means but because they are great stories that don't require you to know the material to appreciate them. The namesake story in "soul music" is surprisingly dull in my opinion. It also features too much of the wizards and without knowing the wizards from previous books they just seemed really out of place in the movies.
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Jul 20, 2014 15:10
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VagueRant posted:I just found out there was a TV adaptation of Going Postal, with Charles Dance as Vetinari no less. Is it any good? I know they did Hogfather and apparently the Colour of Magic, but I haven't heard much about the quality of the Sky adaptations. But the actors were all pretty good. I'd say it's worth a watch, but you should probably go in with low expectations. Edit: I liked the Colour of Magic and Hogfather ones better, but then I haven't read those books. Nihilarian fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Jul 20, 2014 |
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VagueRant posted:I just found out there was a TV adaptation of Going Postal, with Charles Dance as Vetinari no less. Is it any good? I know they did Hogfather and apparently the Colour of Magic, but I haven't heard much about the quality of the Sky adaptations. They nailed Vetinari and Drumknott. It's a little goofy in parts, but considering their budget they did a good job and they didn't really mess with the story in any major way. Even some really quite weird bits like the letters talking stayed in. Sadly the Postman Initiation didn't make it though. Pratchett turns up at the end to do a cameo too, which was nice.
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Jul 21, 2014 15:52
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Going Postal and some bits of the SKY Hogfather adaptions aren't bad. I have a lot of truck with The Colour Of Magic though.
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Jul 21, 2014 16:19
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The Colour of Magic's Vetinari was a crime against humanity.
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MikeJF posted:The Colour of Magic's Vetinari was a crime against humanity.
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Nihilarian posted:Which doesn't make any sense, because it was Jeremy Irons. What the hell happened? Nobody told Irons to research the character or franchise, I expect the man thought it was the usual fantasy stuff and phoned it. I'm still bitter they casted old as gently caress David Jason as Rincewind at his youngest. So many lovely casting choices for that one.
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Fans posted:They nailed Vetinari and Drumknott. True. However, because of Going Postal, I refuse to imagine Vetinari with black hair. RED HAIR ALL THE WAY.
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Jul 21, 2014 17:11
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SeanBeansShako posted:Nobody told Irons to research the character or franchise, I expect the man thought it was the usual fantasy stuff and phoned it. The patrician in the Color of Magic arguably isn't even Vetinari. He's fat, for one thing.
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Tunicate posted:The patrician in the Color of Magic arguably isn't even Vetinari. He's fat, for one thing. Oh yeah, I'll give them that then. Still a lot of Colour was an embarassing cluster gently caress and I steered well clear seeing it in the previews and promo materiels.
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Tunicate posted:The patrician in the Color of Magic arguably isn't even Vetinari. He's fat, for one thing. Yeah he's never named, but more tellingly, his scheme completely fails (doesn't even seem to do anything) and Twoflower and Rincewind escape. It's quite some distance from where the character ended up.
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Tunicate posted:The patrician in the Color of Magic arguably isn't even Vetinari. He's fat, for one thing. Are we really sure of this or did Pratchet just change the characters features in later books? I mean the dialogue between Rincewind and the Patrician where death lurks behind the corner certainly sounds like Vetinari.
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I'm pretty sure that question has been explicitly asked and answered, and the answer is something like 'different leg of the trousers of time' or something - it's not NOT Vetinari; there hasn't been a new Patrician in the course of the Discworld books (Night Watch excepted), but he's definitely a different character. Theories abound as to why, including 'well he wasn't a Vampire back then'.
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thespaceinvader posted:Theories abound as to why, including 'well he wasn't a Vampire back then'.
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Jul 22, 2014 01:47
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All I can say is Lawks
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Is he, canonically? I know he has the close relationship with Lady Margolotta, and a lot of the signs, but has that been confirmed? I don't think it's ever been stated canonically. Personally I never considered Vetenari to be a vampire. In the books he seems to be aging at the same rate Vimes does.
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EvilTaytoMan posted:I don't think it's ever been stated canonically. Personally I never considered Vetenari to be a vampire. In the books he seems to be aging at the same rate Vimes does. Not to mention that he has been hurt in several different books, shot, poisoned. He also spends a lot of scenes outdoors in the day time. Can discworld vampires be in sunlight?
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Zephyrine posted:Can discworld vampires be in sunlight? If they wear heavy clothes and big hats yes, Otto the camera-vamp does this. His flash does tend to turn him to dust though, which is why he wears a blood vial. There were some Vamps who managed to make themselves immune to sunlight in Carpe Jugulum but it doesn't work out so well for them in the end. I doubt Vetenari is a vamp, you ain't getting that past Sam Vimes forever.
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I explain fat Vetinari by reminding myself that he's a graduate of the Assassins Guild. He's not above putting on weight and acting like an idiot to accomplish his goals.
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If you're dumb enough to think that Pratchett has been secretly hinting that Vetinari is a vampire throughout the series, Discworld might be a little over your reading level. You might want to check your Accelerated Reader list and make sure you don't go above a 4.3.
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Tunicate posted:He's obviously a wereflamingo. He's obviously Sam Vimes from the future. Again.
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