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Renaissance Spam
Jun 5, 2010

Can it wait a for a bit? I'm in the middle of some *gyrations*


D Lambent posted:

I've seen a few people mention that this is bad for the WWE quality-wise because they don't have any real competition yet again. But the truth is, did they ever really have any true competition in the form of TNA? I mean, yeah, it's another promotion that is on TV but have they ever, in any way, felt threatened by TNA like they did WWE?

Competition is good but does this really change much for the WWE in terms of the product?

For the WWE it isn't bad in the slightest, but it's bad for the industry as a whole as TNA was a place that theoretically provided a working alternative for wrestlers to showcase themselves and improve their stock across the business.

In practice of course it was a carny poo poo show that paid worse than the indies and left a lot of people worse off that before, but with it gone there's an absence of any kind of alternative to WWE and that's going to be problematic.

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MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Renaissance Spam posted:

For the WWE it isn't bad in the slightest, but it's bad for the industry as a whole as TNA was a place that theoretically provided a working alternative for wrestlers to showcase themselves and improve their stock across the business.

In practice of course it was a carny poo poo show that paid worse than the indies and left a lot of people worse off that before, but with it gone there's an absence of any kind of alternative to WWE and that's going to be problematic.

The timing is also really bad. The company won't be dead until at least October so the talent won't be able to get out of their contracts to maybe get on board with the AAA/El Rey project before their tapings and if Global Force is a real thing they won't be able to sign any talent until the new TV season is well underway.

Blooming Brilliant
Jul 12, 2010

Meat Recital posted:

Are the Dudleys and WWE still on bad terms? I know they hated Heyman for what happened, possibly Steph too, but I dont know how they are with Vince and HHH.

As far as I know, WWE don't have any issues with Devon but still aren't on the best terms with Bully. Although I think they'd be willing to look that to get the Dudleys back to put over a few dudes (I seriously want Wyatts vs Dudleys).

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon

xNarUtoRKOrton420x posted:

As far as I know, WWE don't have any issues with Devon but still aren't on the best terms with Bully. Although I think they'd be willing to look that to get the Dudleys back to put over a few dudes (I seriously want Wyatts vs Dudleys).

1, 2, 3, and the the dudley boyz win, they triumph over the wyatt family

D Lambent
Jul 28, 2014

Renaissance Spam posted:

For the WWE it isn't bad in the slightest, but it's bad for the industry as a whole as TNA was a place that theoretically provided a working alternative for wrestlers to showcase themselves and improve their stock across the business.

In practice of course it was a carny poo poo show that paid worse than the indies and left a lot of people worse off that before, but with it gone there's an absence of any kind of alternative to WWE and that's going to be problematic.

Yeah, I feel bad for guys like Joe, Aries, Richards, Edwards, etc. who have found a high profile home long-term and now it's being ripped out from under them. I supposed if TNA goes under, they COULD find a home in WWE or just go back to ROH but they've already established a home at TNA, no matter how lovely it is.

Anyway, starting a counter now until the Abyss v. Kane feud.

Ragnarok the Red
Jun 21, 2002

D Lambent posted:


Anyway, starting a counter now until the Abyss v. Kane feud.

Taker vs Fake Taker, Kane vs Fake Kane, ashes to ashes dust to dust...

Retromancer
Aug 21, 2007

Every time I see Goatse, I think of Maureen. That's the last thing I saw. Before I blacked out. The sight of that man's anus.

Hey, Bobby Lashley might need work soon, and WWE just started a "disgruntled black guys" stable. Sounds like a match made in heaven to me.

DingoSlasher
Jul 25, 2013

It's a day job.
Samoa Joe is fat and will get stuck in the ring when Undertaker/Kane tries to drag him to hell.

D Lambent
Jul 28, 2014

DingoSlasher posted:

Samoa Joe is fat and will get stuck in the ring when Undertaker/Kane tries to drag him to hell.

Has to face Taker in wrestling court because Joe refused to put the ring over.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

This may or may not be correct.

Derrick Bateman returns, but keeps the name Ethan Carter III as a joke.

D Lambent
Jul 28, 2014
Hector Guerrero is signed, immediately killed off and Vickie Guerrero makes her return as The Latina Avenger to find and destroy his murderer.

Frankston
Jul 27, 2010


I would be so happy if the Dudley Boyz came back. They were my favourite tag team gently caress the Hardy Boyz and Edge & Christian.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

I don't think WWE would bring back the Dudley Boyz as a team, unless it was for some short nostalgic run. Bubba (gently caress that Bully name) is a legit main event singles competitor now, and I doubt he would go for that in the long term.

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...

Auron posted:

I don't think WWE would bring back the Dudley Boyz as a team, unless it was for some short nostalgic run. Bubba (gently caress that Bully name) is a legit main event singles competitor now, and I doubt he would go for that in the long term.

They gave the new age outlaws the tag team titles in 2014, 15 years after the last time they were an active team. The Dudleys and Hardys have to be sure things at very least for Rumble spots.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Bigass Moth posted:

They gave the new age outlaws the tag team titles in 2014, 15 years after the last time they were an active team. The Dudleys and Hardys have to be sure things at very least for Rumble spots.

The Outlaws are friends with the guy who stands to inherit the company creatively when the company dies.


The Dudleys said some ugly poo poo about Stephanie when they left the company. And refused an OVW assignment.

Orange Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007

Now that they're working with Sting I doubt WWE would want anyone from TNA other than Jeff Hardy for the merch sales.

Big Coffin Hunter
Aug 13, 2005

NienNunb posted:

Jeff Hardy sucks I don't want him back in WWE .

Valeyard
Mar 30, 2012


Grimey Drawer

Jeff Hardy owns, I don't know about half of his real life stuff and want to keep it that way.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

the TNA news seems to be overshadowing Buff Bagwell's porno deal with Vivid

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
If Vince is cutting craft services and wishing people the best in their future endeavors left and right, I doubt he can afford to pick up (x) number of wrestlers from a failed company.

Big Coffin Hunter
Aug 13, 2005

sportsgenius86 posted:

the TNA news seems to be overshadowing Buff Bagwell's porno deal with Vivid

so excited

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...

sportsgenius86 posted:

the TNA news seems to be overshadowing Buff Bagwell's porno deal with Vivid

He can team up with Gauge for a 90s flashback movie.

DFu4ever
Oct 4, 2002

Gonz posted:

If Vince is cutting craft services and wishing people the best in their future endeavors left and right, I doubt he can afford to pick up (x) number of wrestlers from a failed company.

It all depends on what the WWE thinks it will do for their stock price. The company still has to have a shitload of money, it's just that slimming down is apparently one of those things meant to appeal to investors.

I really loving hate the stock market sometimes, because it makes companies act in a non-rational way to make the investors feel better.

Writer Cath
Apr 1, 2007

Box. Flipped.
Plaster Town Cop

Gonz posted:

If Vince is cutting craft services and wishing people the best in their future endeavors left and right, I doubt he can afford to pick up (x) number of wrestlers from a failed company.

"Hey, where did the blueberry muffins go?"

"I'm afraid I've got some BAD NEWS."

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

Bigass Moth posted:

He can team up with Gauge for a 90s flashback movie.

Buff Bagwell vs Chyna in Inavsion: Done right.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Gonz posted:

Hopefully they're announcing a Rousey vs. Carano fight for UFC's first ever event held in Arizona in December. Because i've never been to a UFC event before, but i'd buy a ticket to that.

I'm just seeing an entire arena chanting "Ronda's gonna kill you!" at Carano. And then Rousey murders her.

sticklefifer
Nov 11, 2003

by VideoGames

Teddybear posted:

They were already struggling under Spike's money. It's unlikely that they'll get more money at another network.

Counterpoint: Dixie has stupid amounts of disposable income.

Ragnarok the Red posted:

WWE never even acknowledged TNA as competition the way they did WCW during the late 90's. The closest they ever came was Kaval/Low Ki making that "total nonstop action" joke on NXT which contributed to his burial.

Jorn Cana threatened that one time to go "work for someone else, brother" but I think it was an empty threat.

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

sticklefifer posted:

Counterpoint: Dixie has stupid amounts of disposable income.

To do what with? Dixie is an idiot but not about her own finances. Businesses need income, not periodic one-time floats of cash to work.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Dixie's PARENTS have stupid amounts of disposable income. Income they've made clear they're no longer interested in using great amounts of to offset TNA costs.

If there's no TV deal, it's dead unless it gets sold to Viacom.

And if it's not dead when that happens, at the very least, it'll be dead within a month when nobody is getting paid.

Thauros
Jan 29, 2003

Expected but still signifigant news actually pertaining directily to WWE:

http://www.wwe.com/inside/wwe-signs-fergal-devitt-26515616

quote:

WWE has signed international Superstar Fergal Devitt to its NXT division. He will report to the WWE Performance Center in Orlando, Florida, today, WWE.com has confirmed.

“This is something I’ve been looking forward to since I was maybe four or five years old,” Devitt told WWE.com last week, while preparing for the trip in his home country of Ireland. “I grew up watching wrestling my whole life, so to get the chance to step in the ring that I’ve watched on TV so many times is a dream come true.”

Prior to signing with WWE, Devitt was widely considered one of the most highly touted free agents in sports-entertainment. Hailing from Bray, County Wicklow, Ireland, his path to NXT and WWE has been circuitous: Initially trained in England, Devitt honed his craft in the U.K. and U.S. independent scenes before entering the notoriously disciplined dojos of New Japan Pro Wrestling. He also competed in Mexico, though it was in New Japan that he rose to greatest prominence, under the name Prince Devitt.

During his eight-year tenure there, Devitt captured the group’s prestigious IWGP Junior Heavyweight Championship three times, and he won New Japan’s Best of the Super Juniors tournament — the same tournament won by the likes of WWE Hall of Famer Eddie Guerrero — twice, in 2010 and 2013. Devitt went undefeated in last year’s edition of the round-robin tournament.

Now, he’s excited to move on to the next stage of his career, in WWE. A self-described “chameleon in the ring,” Devitt prides himself on adapting to his surroundings wherever he goes. Despite the anticipation that’s surrounded his signing, he’s quick to note it’ll be “back to square one” when he gets to the WWE Performance Center.



“I don’t consider myself anywhere close to the finished product, so I’m looking forward to this challenge and learning a new style,” he said.

This won’t be Devitt’s first time at the Performance Center. He visited the facility months ago, during which time he met the coaching staff. The Center, which recently celebrated its one-year anniversary, exceeded Devitt’s already-high expectations.

“I’ve seen a lot of different training schools and dojos, and the sheer level of professionalism at the Performance Center and the state-of-the-art facility just knocked me for a six. It really blew me away,” he said.

Though perhaps an unknown quantity to many WWE fans, Devitt is a familiar face to several members of the NXT locker room, most notably NXT Champion Adrian Neville, whom Devitt wrestled in Japan, and newcomer Becky Lynch, whom he helped train. He’s anxious to have the chance to get in the ring again with Neville, as well as Sami Zayn, who he said “stands out.”

“We kinda missed each other, played crisscross, but never had a chance to lock up on the independent circuit, so that’d be something I’d really look forward to,” Devitt said of Zayn.

On the main roster, Devitt said there’s one absolute goal: “The target would be John Cena, because if you’re wrestling John Cena, you’re in the main event.” Still, he’d also like to tie up or team up with fellow Irishman Sheamus. Devitt and Sheamus started their careers in Ireland around the same time, but because they worked for competing organizations, they never battled, only knew each other by reputation.

Devitt’s signing, meanwhile, represents WWE's second major acquisition of an international talent in recent weeks. During WWE’s tour of Japan earlier this month, Hulk Hogan presided over the ceremonial contract signing of Japanese competitor Kenta.



“I think it’s definitely a good thing and the company’s obviously looking forward,” Devitt said of WWE’s current talent recruitment. “It’s bringing in some well-traveled performers, so I think for NXT, it’s a good thing.”

It’s just that worldly experience that Devitt credited with readying him for the demanding rigor of WWE’s proving ground.

“It’s helped me and my confidence, both in and out of the ring,” Devitt said of his travels. “I never feel out of my depth of experience. I’ve been put into a lot of situations that could be stressful. That’s really helped me mature, both as a performer and as a man.”

Whether the WWE Universe will ever see Devitt sporting some of the flashier elements that made him stand out in Japan — the Chris Jericho-esque light-up ring jacket or sprawling, comic book-inspired body-paint designs — remains to be seen.

“I’ve always got a couple of tricks up my sleeve, so I’m going to come up with something new before then,” he said. “But yeah, look out for the light-up jacket, look out for the body paint. Look out for a new Devitt.”

LanceBurrito
Jan 6, 2013
Edit: ^^^^^^^

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

Does Devitt still have that deal with Armani or would that be killed now?

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
So happy.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

flashy_mcflash posted:

Does Devitt still have that deal with Armani or would that be killed now?

Brock got to keep his precious Jimmy John's deal so maybe this would be ok too.

WWE has wanted Devitt for a while, so it's not like they have tons of leverage over him.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

I doubt he's keeping it but the only thing that makes me think it's possible is that it's an overseas deal primarily.

sticklefifer
Nov 11, 2003

by VideoGames
I wonder if that's the "third" piece of news, the other two being Spike dropping TNA and the forthcoming WWE Network numbers.

I hope he gets to keep his body paint thing. That really makes him stand out even to people who don't watch wrestling.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

sticklefifer posted:

I wonder if that's the "third" piece of news, the other two being Spike dropping TNA and the forthcoming WWE Network numbers.

third piece is confirmed to be a UFC fight announcement per Dave on breaking news audio last night

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Kenta and Devitt and Steen oh my!

DeathChicken
Jul 9, 2012

Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself.

I for one look forward to the debut of Potato McLiffey.

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NickRoweFillea
Sep 27, 2012

doin thangs

DeathChicken posted:

I for one look forward to the debut of Potato McLiffey.

ME WEE COUSIN FERGAL

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